As an afterthought to the rates providers charge for overnights....I thought my rate was perhaps a bit high for an older client who asked if I would reduce it so I did....NEVER AGAIN! I swear the dude popped an ass-load of Viagra immediately before I arrived! And as for getting "6-8 hrs of sleep"....I did not get that until I was home in my own bed! Granted, the hotel was nice (his employer paid for it!) but my delicious meal consisted of a quick trip to an all you can eat freaking buffet! And the to top off the experience, he got a 15min coffee break the next morning during his business meeting and ran back to the room for a quickie while I was packing to leave!!!! I think the look on my face flushed that last Viagra right out of his system!

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Although your story is funny....I sympathize with you .
The first time I done an overnight in NYC  I had to finally (on the  3rd night) put tissue in my ears   and it was not for the  all night traffic and the trash trucks and sirens ...This one snored LOUD and passing LOUD gas every other minute . He would get up early to go to his office and tell me to "sleep in" ...Yeah right ! ASA I would get to sleep he was coming in the door wanting me to get up and go eat go here go there  and then  back to the room ... (lol)
By the time I got back to the Carolinas I was so tired It took me a few days to regain my strength from no sleep .
Next time I do an overnight I will take my sound machine or hepa tech to drown out the noises .

...the last time an employer asked me to work over 8 hours while on salary, I said, "hey, I'm going home - Goodbye."

Sure wish I still had a job.

Zayzha, as bad as it had to have been for you I had to laugh. Sometimes those types of situations are just too much! Call me and lets go get coffee!

Alyssa

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Sorry to hear your horrible story.

My worst one would have to be agreeing to stay overnight with a smoker. I woke up middle of the night with close asthmatic attack, almost hyperventilating, and then retreating to the bathroom. I attempted sleeping in the bathtub but it was too cold and finally fell asleep with a perfumed towel to my nose. That taught me never to stay overnight with a smoker.

I've posted many times that I will not do an overnight... primarily because of the snore factor... as well as the restlesslegs that I frequently get... and on and on and on... and I actually do agree to go to sleep... and not "go like the energizer bunny..."  

However, in recent history, I have broken my rule, but with a lady that I trust - to tell me  if she is annoyed....  and I must say - she is gracious enough to not make me feel bad about any bodily functions... including sex...  and I always have a great time with her... but to me she is a bit different... So I guess I agree with you all.... but there are exceptions...

I rarely  do overnights  primarily because i'm the one  who's  doing all the snoring. Some guys  think its cute, but i dont  think so.

Older in age, or older in time he's been seeing you? I love overnights but they aren't something I would do with someone I wasn't really familiar with already.

Grinding out a couple hours with someone I don't click with is one thing, grinding out an entire evening is something else.

I would never do an overnight with someone that I have never met!

Most of my overnighters, I have known for years and we have a great time together.

As far as sleeping, that has never been a problem, as my clients realize that I need my rest.


I would mark him off your list, as he saids like an inconsiderate jerk, that is looking for a all night fuck doll!

Keep you Chin Up, Babe.....They are not all like him.

Have a Wonderful Day,
Kelly

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I agree, I made the mistake of agreeing to an overnight with someone from out of town and not only was he a smoker he was NOT someone I would have seen again for even an hour date. That has got to be the worst date I have ever had.

I've been in this situation myself.  He asked you to reduce your rate, then tried to get his moneys worth.    

To break this down.  Let's say you charge him 1500 for an overnight.  You showed up at 8pm and went to bed at 11pm.  Then woke up at 6am and left at 8am.  This justifies your compensation alone.  

I feel overnight dates are for those who want a lady friend early the next morning.  

I've grown to realize that anyone asking for a reduced rate will also work hard to get their money's worth.  It's in their nature.  So, when negotiating I try to clarify expectations and limitations.  

I hope this advise helps you in future dates of similar nature.  

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I always get a two room suite or adjoining rooms - always...as you never know the compatability on both sides.  That way either of us can get up in the middle of the night and retire to the other room. I do love having sex when I am semi awake first thing in the morning(most guys do) and some of my most memorable BBBJ's have been those.  I always order fruit, cheese and crackers, wine or champagne, etc.  - its only good manners - so dont be discouraged - there are some nice overnights - you just have to know the client first.

He did not pay you to get 10 hours of beauty rest.
He paid you for sex. Maybe he could have been a little more graceful in his way, and treated you to a better meal, but he paid you, not the other way around.

Oh you're one of those "I pay you so I get to do with you what I want" type men. Hmmmm an ASP's dream date. I bet your phone is ringing off the hook with offers from ladies to do an overnight with you...you big old stud you.

Bring up some good points: Know the person you are doing the deed with...should make your decision on whether to do an overnight easier for the Ladies.

Communicate & know the expectations of both parties. If an evening with pleasant activities is involved that's one thing but a 12 hr. bangathon is another.

& finally if you don't know the person or know that your snoring or farting will rock the world
Shaunalover's suite idea would make for a much more pleasant experience it would seem.

Finally topbossman...just guessing you may not do too many overnighters if providers get a hint of what your expectations are...of course you may not want too.

Communications are a must on this kind of adventure.

Ooooh I'd see topbossman...even his handle tells me more about him than he ever could....


If he wants a bangathon for an overnight then he would have to pay me my hourly rate x the total hours spent with me, since he feels that sleep is not necessary or even fair. That's quite a few "G's" for me. Oh happy day or should I say night. Hell I'd be awake all night thinking of how to either invest or spend all that loot he'd be giving me.

You were doing just fine until you decided to flame another hobbyist for expressing his opinion.  The hobby is a two-way street,  It doesn't exist to make everything "easier for the Ladies."  It has to be a two-way street.

Any mature, experienced hobbyist knows that the best times are those when he is enjoying companionship, conversation, connection, and gives a "gift" as his gesture of appreciation.  Any mature, experienced hobbyist knows that when the provider is happy, at peace, and comfortable then there is much more than just sex involved.  What is possible in those situations is mind blowing, soul moving, earth altering, love making, hot, sweaty, bend over backward fucking, licking, sucking, sweet, wet... sex...  ?  
If he went into thinking he was just paying for sex.... well... this thread is the result.
He's the one who missed out on what could have been the original poster's most memorable and sexy time ever.
Instead, he just got some sex.  Too bad for him that he wasn't more concerned with her comfort.  His time would have been so much more beautiful.  His money well spent!!!

If you are booking an overnight, you are paying for the time spent together which undoubtedly includes both SLEEP AND SEX, in addition to meals and conversation. We providers are humans too- I would not offer overnights if the expectation was for me to be a sex machine and stay awake all night fucking. This is not a reasonable expectation of anyone. That is why I specify that 6 hours are for fun and 6 hours are for sleep (which is less than ideal anyways, but I always plan my schedule in order to go home in the morning and catch up on the other 2-4 hours I need to be at my best) My rates are calculated accordingly, as are most girls. Most women would not ever knowingly commit to 12 hours of straight sex (not that most guys could naturally do so without the aid of illegal drugs or pharmaceuticals), and if someone did, there would be a different rate for it- based on the immense stress on her body along with the fact that she would likely be out of commission for a day or two after because of lack of sleep.. We are people too, and have basic human functions and needs such as sleeping and eating. No way are you paying us to be at your service and awake for 12 hours/all night on an overnight. We will certainly do our best in performance and attitude, but jeez.

Marea

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if you & bossman hook up could you update us how you spent all the moola?

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out the error of my ways. It appears that the majority concluded that overnights aren't only wall to wall sex. For those hobbists & providers that do more power to them, that's just not my game. If that is what is agreed upon prior to the session, go for it, if not I'd guess that would be the last overnight that provider would do with that gent. Hi Ho Silver & away!

LOL I was not being literal. There's no way he would do an overnight with me. I am a human being...not an object with three holes to be filled at will. So you see he wouldn't choose me if I were the last female on earth.

I haven't done an overnight yet, but am considering it.  Another thread a few days ago was about overnights, and I feel that it wouldn't be a good idea to do one with someone you haven't already had several shorter dates with first. Then, discussing expectations for the evening would be crucial, in my opinion, so both parties pretty  much know what to expect for the evening. If, during their discussions about the overnight, they see that their expectations don't mesh, then an overnight probably wouldn't work.  To  think that you're going to have a 12 hour sex marathon seems ridiculous to me. I know that I wouldn't  physically be able to do that, and from previous posts by the ladies, it's pretty clear they don't want that,either.  To me, an overnighter is about spending time with a provider who you have good chemistry with, both sexual chemistry and non-sexual chemistry.
Just my thoughts.

Runningman


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My intention was to voice my opinion, since her version of what happened was one sided, and amounted to a rant. If ladies are going to do overnighters with someone they don't know, things like this are bound to happen.
Her comment about her date popping viagra, and him being older, lead me to think she was looking for one pop, dinner, and sleep. It does not always work out that way.
The way she presented herself will not help her get overnighters in the future.
o2, I would have expected no other reply then the one you stated. Your points were good, but trust me, I have no problems getting dates.

It's the scent of bullshit.  I never said overnights were for wall-to-wall sex (unless it includes someone like myself who can and does perform all night long).  I also stated that the majority of your post was correct.  
What I objected to was your bashing Topbossman for expressing an opinion.  Unless a guy is out of line, and I don't see where he was in this instance, don't flame fellow hobbyists to curry favor with the ladies.

I agree totally. I would not expect to be paid to sleep. Fair is fair. Now if he wanted to bang all night, then charge accordingly.

I'm one of those irritating ladies that will not allow reviews...personally I find them disgusting and do not need them to get business. I see a different demographic of male. So sorry can't help you with this one.

She didn't state she was expecting to sleep for 10 hours.  I think this whole mess could have been avoided if the two involved would have communicated expectations beforehand.

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time to move on & have some fun for me. Have a great weekend all!

Quite frankly the only reason I would do an overnight would be because I knew that the provider and I were compatible enough that we could fall asleep snuggled up together at some point in the night, even if only for 5 or 6 hours...and that way we're both raring to go for our morning fun before reality intrudes again and we part company.  If we don't have that in addition to several hours of great sex, it's not worth the extra cash as far as I'm concerned.  Might as well pay for a couple hour session and send the lady home where she can get a good night's rest, and you can sleep alone if that's what you prefer. It's been said you pay for the lady to leave, but there's several providers I know who I generally don't want them to leave at the end of the night...so for me personally I only shell out cash for overnights if it's someone I can imagine wanting to fall asleep with.