Where are the hard facts that this actually occurs?

I see that someone "could be" working with Le. Where are the actual cases where this really happened?
OR a Hobbyist was stung and gives over his username to set girls up?
this "flipping by Le' looks like an urban legend.
Please pm me or respond with real cases and not rumors , please.

all you have to do is look.

It happens.  Why do you ask?

From Chicago:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=82100&boardID=10&page=

From MN:

And no, I am not sending you particulars.

How about the minnesota nice guys and then there was another prefered group of girls called fast pass I think. It's not just talk it happens all the time.

I could go on and on since i'm a big google freak but i won't. I just dug up an old case about porn stars from 10 years ago. Very interesting case I might ad. I saw many similarities to things I have seen advertised and wondered what are they thinking.

Kisses Haley

But instead of giving you details, I will encourage you to do your own research and also to talk to some people.

are proof.

It is NOT legend.

The one who is "flipping" or singing the most in the DD case is the male agency owner.  He is helping with both AZ and New Mexico cases.  He is helping with the cases against both the guys and the gals.  Here two years later he still has NOT be sentenced because he is still working with LE.  

Yes it does happen.  And the other posts talking about Minnesota shows it too.  Wake up and smell the bacon.

Unfortunately, some providers get intimidated by LE and cooperate with them...if arrested they should always ask for a lawyer and keep their mouth shut.

Here in NM. If she's not on TER, and doesn't have reviews, it's not even a consideration.

Besides, I have too many friends that refer me to well known ladies to waste my time with shit like that.

I know, someone's gotta get their start someplace. Let 'em do it with someone else.

as you check them out back on TER. Very well reviewed ladies do advertise on all those places. The reason they do that is it is a more popular site where many gentlemen search. Don't get brokenhearted over any ladies picture if you haven't done your research.

Now what does that have to do with a lady or gentlemen turning on their peers. You can find that just about anywhere and from the street girl to the very highest charging call girl. It is the very same for the gentlemen who frequent providers of all donations. Don't be lulled to sleep just because your in your playpen on TER.

Kisses Haley

in a recent client sting I am aware of, clients were receiving letters and phone calls inquiring why they had communicated with "known prostitutes" from a group that had been rolled up.  

Well guess what? It's not illegal to "communicate" with "known prostitutes". If I had received this call / mail I would have laughed in their face and said nothing. And there would have not been one damn thing they could do about it.

But some guys pissed all down their frontside and were willing to roll on providers they knew in order to escape the threat of a 200 dollar fine and "John school".

Let's summarize:

It is not illegal to meet a lady in a hotel or residence for the purpose of fucking and sucking

It is not illegal to do this anonymously

It is not illegal for there to be an envelope of cash sitting around somewhere

if we follow sound protocols - no mention of sex, sex acts, donations, amounts, the envelope - this leaves damned little for fuzzboy or the DA to use to prosecute a case.

People need to know their rights, and to STFU

what does that have to do with the topic of busted people working with the po po?

MP we love you but Haley said it best.

I agree 100% on the STFU approach, but I think it is naive to think that using an envelope and keeping your mouth shut guarantees staying out of trouble with the law. It is certainly helpful, but far from foolproof.

The cases mentioned already are high profile agencies...  what did they expect?  Wear shirts by Target, expect to get shot at!  While individuals caught up in a sting are traumatized on a personal level...  it starts & ends at the hotel door.

I have nothing to "give up".  I'm a nobody-special.  I do everything possible to avoid ending up in a room with a LE undercover.  If I was...  Why would I compound my problems by giving up my user name on this or any other site?  Seriously, I have nothing to give them.  

If LE wants a TER handle, I'm sure they could register one.  This is a public access board.  I'm not going to give them mine.  

Again, it is the high profile cases LE might find benifit from flipping.  
skb

is the key issue.

a typical DA is not going to bother if you have not made it easy enough for them. Limited time and resources for what at the end of the day is a penny ante case in the grand scheme of things....

http://www.blip.tv/file/1274140

and all the facts presented like that news article.
I have seen is bits and pieces and threads about people I am not familiar with and couldn't understand.
I saw something on another board about some concern if someone was flipped over an arrest so I wanted to see why people are always saying this stuff but I never saw actual facts about it.
I never saw actual proven examples with names.

and having self confidence.

No one make you talk, if you don't want. Cops threatening with jail time is bordering on illegal threat.

Yep, when you are young and stupid, you capitulate by every little threat from the LE.

This is only the seond time I have ever posted altho I love to read. I have been an attorney and law professor for 30 years. The last comment is uniformed and foolish. I am not going to spend the next three hours writing why. Whether you are a provider or hobbyist you should have the name of a good local lawyer who specializes in these problems before you get started. Be safe.

"The last comment is uniformed and foolish. I am not going to spend the next three hours writing why."  Interesting why would it take 3 hours for a lawyer and law professor of 30 years to put down an argument on a discussion board?

    Lot's of people blow a lot of wind around these parts, your is just another gust, with no content for your position.

    How many hookers (or hobbyist for that matter) are going to have a mouthpiece on retainer?

This RedLight District Video is great.  
skb

I think the oddities of the posting process has thrown some confusion in the "attorney and law professor"s reply.  
I think he was replying to the post "In trouble with the police? You bet. Successfully prosecuted? Doubtful....and that..."
Few here would (as the reply I cited) suggested that being arrested is something to dismiss or take carelessly.  I do not blame a lawyer for not wasting his energy explaining what is perfectly obivious to all but one here.  
skb

Okay, so it never ceases to amaze me then, how some people come on this board or others and claim to be a lawyer, doctor or some other highly educated professional yet cannot spell properly. What’s up with that, if I may be so bold?

Yes, seond is second and altho is although. But then, I’m just a plumber and this is only a fun discussion forum, right? The problem with that thought is that not everyone is professing to be a lawyer. By doing so it is with the expectation of a certain degree of credibility. That is lost when spelling is bad.

I do certainly agree that “Law is FUCKED if it takes 3 hours to explain it. Glad you ain't my counsel!!!” ain’t? Aren’t maybe eh? lmfao… oops Laugh my fucking ass off.

most men/hobbyists are not into breaking laws so when they are threatened with losing their job, wife, kids they will and do say anything to help prevent what they believe will happen.

It is true to a point when you see others with their names and addresses in the newspaper or talked about on the 5pm news!

to providers who do not know well then, they should not be in the business without a lawyer behind them.

I have one on retainer for the longest time and the girls that work with me know this.
I am hoping they will know not to say anything if the time ever comes to use him.
I'd rather not though! lol
My advice is have one on retainer, it does not cost much and it is so worth it!
less stressful knowing you have someone on your side and in you corner.

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if the girls are in the throws of LE and being battered about emotionally, before they can even get a phone call they are singing like canaries.

Then you need to call the mouthpiece for serious damage control.

Don't call me, I am retired now.

Any attorney worth his salt will inform his client to say absolutely nothing if arrested, without calling him/her first.

The old adage "You can't talk your way out of jail, but you can talk your way in" is a true one, and should be required reading for all providers.