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Re: Exceptions to perfectstorm's comments
Oneadeez 51 reads
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Yes, the way you put it I meant TER profile.  I don’t see that in the cases I am thinking of the provider claimed any of her profiles, so to speak.  

Oneadeez1022 reads

I am curious if there are rules or official explanations out there for the issue of when a provider has multiple TER IDs, delisting of a TER ID, and the intersection between the two.  

As for multiple IDs, I am aware of a provider in Minnesota who had two active personas advertising and getting reviews at the same time.  She stopped with one of them but both of her IDs are still active.    It was weird because they did the same thing, so it is not like she was marketing two separate experiences.  I aware of many other providers who have multiple TER IDs and they continue to co-exist though perhaps only one is active.  I have also noticed over time that in many such instances, those two (or more) IDs are merged.  What I am not aware of is when or why TER decides to merge or not, or what degree of information TER needs to make itself comfortable merging IDs.  Is that printed anywhere?  Any guidance?

Another curiosity is the issue of delisting/being delisted.  I have seen many providers disappear, but except in the instance when they announce it was a choice, or when I was a frequenter of such a provider and their email also went dead letting me believe the provider was finished, it is unclear to me whether the delisting was at the provider's request or if it is punishment for some misdeed?  I have also seen providers not be listed, and then after a period of time, they are listed again and everything springs back to life.  I suppose I could ask such a provider what happened, but otherwise, again, is there any guidance on when you can delist, and if you delist, when you can relist?

Finally, there is an interesting intersection between these two issues.   For example, I am aware of a provider who has had at least three IDs, such that while she was not acting as all three providers at the same time, but in succession, her first two IDs (again, really no difference between performance of the three IDs) existed on TER at the same time as her third ID.  In this way, unless you knew to look back at her first two IDs, there was limited information about the third ID.  And this is a case where TER did not combine the IDs.  Then, her third ID de-listed and by all accounts she also became inactive, leaving her first two IDs also inactive but listed.  How does TER deal with this issue?  Can a provider essentially carve up their history by creating successive identities and then delete certain ones?  What does the provider have to do to spark TER to combine the IDs?

Thanks for the input.

Multiple profiles:  
It is against TER rules for a provider to have multiple profiles. When TER finds out they will merge the profiles, combining all the reviews under one profile, and delist the others profiles. How TER finds out is through problem reports. If you know of providers doing this, send in problem reports, but TER needs proof. They are not going to just take your word for it. If a provider with multiple profiles uses different photos, different phone numbers, different email addresses etc., on her websites or ads that are connected to the different profiles, then it is hard to prove to TER that they are one and the same person. This is especially true when they hide tattoos and don't show their face. Face shots and tattoos are usually enough proof for TER to merge profiles.

Delisting:
 TER will never tell you why a provider was delisted, and whether it was voluntary or for cause. There are many reasons  a provider can be delisted, some good, some bad. As to delisting and relisting, some ladies are delisted for violating TER rules, but are allowed back after they correct the violation, and after a certain time period has passed. Others delist at their own request for various reasons, and then ask to be relisted later on. For some it is as simple as having a no review policy. A provider with a no review policy is automatically delisted if TER finds out about the no review policy.  If they remove the no review policy, they can get relisted.  

Now if you want the actual reasons you will have to ask the provider (and who knows if she is telling you the truth) or you have to be privy to the info through some other source but you will never find out from TER.,

Oneadeez69 reads

Thanks. That helps though it seems like the grey area is what TER will accept for a problem report.

Posted By: Oneadeez
Re: That was a lot of words, but here are some answers.
Thanks. That helps though it seems like the grey area is what TER will accept for a problem report.
The reason for multiple personas is usually to rip off the tricks. A high price for the high-class persona and a lower price for the other persona to cover all the bases.

 
Read my thread on "double dipping."

did she had good reviews and reputation with previous name? I understand from clients perspective if you want to make sure she is legit, honest about herself and you will not be ripped off.  

Also, there can be other reasons why the name change. Maybe she was caught by the husband, family, probably fighting a custody battle... but she still gotta pay the bills you know.  

Just my opinion. :)  

V~

Oneadeez63 reads

In the examples I gave, there was not much in any profile which was significantly different from anther profile of the same provider.   I would say generally that TER has merged profiles which were misleading, though it has also merged non-misleading profiles and refused to merge slightly misleading profiles (I suppose multiple profiles is always somewhat misleading even if they are consistent).  I was just wondering if there was more clarity as to what TER does in these situations.  I guess not really.  

and the need to clarify the OP's meaning of TER ID.  NO ONE, client, Provider, LE, etc. can register for more than one TER account.  If by "TER ID" you mean "TER handle", only one account = handle is allowed.  Registering a second account with another handle and email is a bannable offense for ANYONE.  
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The are many Providers who are not members of TER and have no TER handle or account. HOWEVER, they have TER reviews and a TER PROFILE. If by "TER ID" you mean "TER Profile", it is possible for one person to have multiple TER Profiles with different names. It commonly happens with K-girls who change names as they tour from coast to coast (and islands - have to include p'storm's home).   She is Vega in Vegas, Suri in Seattle, Chia in Chicago, Honi in Honolulu, and Nyna in NY, each with a separate Profile with those names. TER will MERGE Profiles of the same Provider IF THERE IS CLEAR PROOF that they are one and the same person.  Usually, that means identical photos in their ads.  "Same height, hair color, ..." is not enough to get a merge. Personal knowledge also works: "I saw Cherry when she was Cherry and now I have seen her as Pepsi. Same girl. Combine Profiles, please."  Personally, I think it is dumb to use multiple names when they usually have excellent reviews under all of them.  
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It is even possible for one Provider with one name to have multiple Profiles with the same name. Once again, it is common among MP girls who move from place to place. I knew a Coco in NYC who had three (even more than three) Profiles all with the name Coco.  She gets reviews and a Profile from lovelyasian.com / phone #1. Then, she moves to happyplace / phone #2 / same pics. Her reviewer doesn't know that this Coco is the same as the old Coco and a new Profile gets created. And so on. I had a hell of a time trying to get all of the Coco reviews merged into on Profile.  (TER ended up combining too many Coco's, including a different Coco.  Coco retired recently, so don't sweat it.)
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Many Profiles have more than one name separated by / that resulted from merging different Profiles of the same Provider: "Cherry / Lexi" "Paulina / Polina / Emily" "Natalia Santiago / Mika / Marianika" etc. Of course, it isn't just K-girls.  

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Oneadeez52 reads

Yes, the way you put it I meant TER profile.  I don’t see that in the cases I am thinking of the provider claimed any of her profiles, so to speak.  

souls_harbor59 reads

I've seen providers list on their own and also as a partner with another.  

If two providers are reviewed as doubles partners, they always have a doubles profile separate from their individual profiles.

Death. If a provider has passed away and TER can be provided with proof, they will delist them. It's kind of weird but I know of one such case and her profile is gone but her website remains over a year later.

I had seen a lady several times in a distant city and it had been 2-3 years since our last get-together.  I was going back to her city so I looked her up on TER.  She was still listed.  I knew her full real name so I googled it and she had died a year before.  I contacted TER Admin - they asked for her obituary, so I sent it and TER took her profile down.

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