"There's a saying that goes: 'being early is being on time, being on time is being late, and being late is unacceptable.'"

Silly.

The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.

And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.  

I gotta go with Business on this one.

I probably wouldn't have minded if she let me know ahead of time, but she texted me a minute after the appointment time saying that she isn't ready yet, so I had to wait some more.

The meet and even exceed your expectations might cause me to pause. Did she know what your expectations were to begin with so she at least had a fighting chance? Some gentlemen can build up the session to a point of being almost impossible to live up to.  

I've been in the business world.  The provider world is not the business world.  There are too many things beyond her control.  More than 15 minutes late is not acceptable.  But 5-10 should be no big deal.  You also should not expect the room number more than 5 minutes in advance.  If you have your act together you should already be in the lobby by then.
With your requirements I'd be surprised if you don't suffer a lot of disappointments.

But for you to comment that there are things "beyond her control" is a misnomer.  Everyone has control over their time...just that some decide to not exercise it.

I am always early. If I have to sit in a parking lot for 30min whatever, I can scout new ladies on my phone while I wait. But, when I call and it's time they should be ready, or session time starts when I walk in the door. I get that shit happens, but on time is on time. Expectations....that's a completely different subject

So, we are supposed to control hotel staff, traffic, children, real world jobs, bad hair days, etc? I have waited in the hotel lobby for hours on a room before. Was I supposed to go and physically remove the other guests from their room and clean it myself? Am I to purchase my own personal plane to avoid delayed flights? Get myself a sweet ass SUV and plow through traffic when it inconveniences me?

Wow. Speaking of "professionalism", I've never been to any doctor appointment or appointment with an attorney that started exactly on time to the minute. So basically, if you have an appointment scheduled with me and I need to pee before sending you up, taking 3 minutes to do so makes me unprofessional?  
And "out of her control" isn't a misnomer- it doesn't matter how much time one allots for travel, checking in, etc, there are tons of things outside of anyone's control - traffic accidents, the maid finishing up in the room, blah blah blah. Unfortunately I haven't mastered the art of being able to psionically control the highway system...guess I'll just have to stick with being "unprofessional" (along with my doctor, airline,  attorney, masseuse, movie theater projectionist, accountant, and so on, ad infinitum).

Like I said, I probably wouldn't have minded if I was made aware of the delays ahead of time.
Being alerted that she isn't ready a minute after the appointment time is unacceptable.

Yes, she knew it was going to be my first time with a porn star. The date was planned 3 months ahead of time.

Dear, I think you're being naive on a couple of levels.  First of all, it is very possible to be discrete in a hotel lobby.  There are always seating areas off to the side where you can, for example, use a smart phone un-observed and completely blend in.  If not, the second floor is usually where there are meeting areas and ballrooms and generally there's no one there.  Same for rest rooms.  If none of the above are possible, then it's out on the street, of course.  To call this approach "one of the biggest acts of indiscretion imaginable" is a bit of an over-reaction and is just naive.
You want indiscretion?  How about the guy who gets the room number and then repeats it out loud? I could go on.
Bottom line: no provider or agency has ever told me not to wait in the lobby, or expressed concern if I mentioned that's where I would be.

Ugh CPA I want to agree with you so badly

Posted By: ChgoCPA

I gotta go with Business on this one.  
   
 That 5-10 minutes, if it's consistent with a gal, leads to the assumption that, for whatever reason, she doesn't care enough to manage her time.  And may indicate that she isn't getting her prior fuck session over quick enough to accommodate the next john.    
   
 Some people are anal about respecting time.  I happen to be one of them.  Too many hookers however seem to think their time is more important, and the john will simply wait.  
   
 My rates aren't cheap...frankly higher than most (if not all) of the hookers here.  And if I couldn't manage my time properly, well, I suspect the word gets around and less clients would have an interest in my talents.  
   
 And I actually do have some degrees on the wall    
   

Posted By: OhCharlie

And if the shoe were on the other foot? Things happen, and 5-10 minutes just isn't that big of a deal for me. I can't imagine finding it "unacceptable even if she makes up for it". There are few things on this earth that can't wait five minutes, so maybe wording, maybe perspective. But either way I think it's a little much to mention a 5-10 minute wait in reviews in the way that some do, as if it detracted that much from the experience.    
     

Posted By: Businesses

It's just a saying. Not to be taken literally.    
       
   It's hard to time things to make sure the client is exactly on time.    
   Imo, texting of the room number should be done 5-10 minutes before the date so he can get there on time.    
       
   I'm not a second/time pincher, but being 5-10 minutes late is unacceptable for me, even if she makes up for it.    
       
   

Posted By: London Rayne

The last part, is not so uncommon, but why would "being on time be considered late?"

if any of the providers on this thread who are saying that "5-10 minutes late is not a big deal" have ever had a real, professional job.    

I'm not the one complaining, nor did I create this thread -- I'm just replying to it since it was about my review.

I actually agree, but if you read the review it was not just the time thing. I really find it amusing that the guy is being given such a hard time by people other than the lady he reviewed! She whitelisted him for fk's sake, and is going to make it up to him!  

This is a situation where the girl was already in the room and had been there for days! I too am all about being ready on time, but even I do run late when things happen. For instance, shotty internet in some hotels has left a few gents who texted for the room number, waiting because I could not get phone or email service. Other than that, or ripping a stocking, I am rarely late especially with an incall for Pete's sake. We know what time our appts. are, and it is our responsibility to be on time.  

Is it illogical to EXPECT stellar and unmatched service from a provider who has mostly all 10s? So, would he be better seeing someone who rated less, if that's the case? What good are 10s if you think guys are not going to EXPECT nothing but perfection or pretty close to it? Blame the unrealistic expectations that such averages create, not the guy who bought into it. That's about as crazy as saying you should not expect to be ripped off from a provide who has nothing but 1s and 2s for performance. Reviews and a string of perfect scores, create certain expectations otherwise women would not be so obsessed with having them.

Most of the professional jobs that require you to be there for 6:59 for a 7:00 job are only entry level jobs...  

The truth is...I have more than a few.

It's not too often that a hooker gets a room for only ONE john.  So I don't buy any of your excuse crap.

no matter how high up the ladder you are, unless you are the boss running the meeting.  

Your spewing garbage!! Yes everybody is late on occasion, but your trying to psionically(not a real word) imply that being late is OK. If I am early but don't have your exact location or room number how am I getting you lic. plate number or the type of car you drive?

But the folks that work for me can't be late either.

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

Most of the professional jobs that require you to be there for 6:59 for a 7:00 job are only entry level jobs...  
   
 As you move up in the ladder, you are not required to be there at a specific time, but are always required to stay late and get your job done..Of course you are showing up couple of hrs late everyday, that's bad, but within reason all's good.. Unless you work for a news network.. I can't imagine 8:00 news starting at 8:15... LOL Your example is not a very good one...  
   
 I personally don't care if the girl is late 30 min or so for outcall appointment. For incall, I care because I don't want to be seen hanging around suspiciously...  
   
 I do care that you show up with a smile, not gossip about stupid shit and yes.. LISTEN ME TALK

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When I call(ed) a meeting at a specific time....I am the first one there and the last one to leave.

As a senior in high school I had a love of meteorology.  Started doing research on the incomes of typical meteorologist and decided that wasn't going to be my career path.

Perhaps I should be scared???  LMAO

I am surprised you ever went to grade school...You should have just appeared for CPA exam, and that too is probably beneath your dignity.  

Fortunately I don't have those issues with the professionals I deal with.  NO..not fucking hookers.  YOU know...real professionals who have diplomas and degrees..and an attitude of professionalism.

with a customer.  

Actually, an excellent point. Well said. When scores are all 9's and 10's one gets the perception that it will be perfect, but sometimes the ladies with those scores get a "holier than u attitude" attitude. If they have all 9's and 10's they should know how to be on time and not double book. PERIOD.

but if you are traveling 15-20 miles to attend a meeting... Sure you can be late.. I would be OK with that..

due to circumstances outside of your control...

And did take your freeways to Mount Vernon to see Washington's estate.

I have worked in DC, both for a huge international law firm, and for a "public interest" 501-C-3.  And when we had set meeting times, we were expected to be on time.  Making a Congressman or his staff member wait for you does NOT help one's cause, and make a client wait encourages the client to look elsewhere.

There's a VERY short list of excuses that I would listen to:

Man U blow so much smoke around about yourself it's nauseating. go back and read your own post. All you do is point and say how great you are. Are you really that full of shit. My stuff and my life and bla,bla,bla. I feel sorry for you.

Secondly, its admirable that you are so punctual.  

and you glad that you don't have me as an employee...

i bet he wasnt late blowing his load..

I certainly am not nor will I ever force my principles on anyone.

When it's a little more laid back.
I was seeing a lady last summer, where we both had to drive a couple of hours for the date. I would get there first and pay  
for the room, she would arrive shortly thereafter. She didn't HAVE to be there at an exact time, since I was gonna have the room til the following day.  
I think, if the situation allows, try and be a little flexible. ( not nikki avalon late though )

But when it came to this particular topic all I spoke of is how important timeliness is to me.

late for a job interview. Got there 5-10 min. early actually..

Au contraire....lol....

When I am paying people to do work...that comes right out of MY pocket.  NO ONE else is responsible.

can they just not wait for another 10-15 min to make up, unless its a situation in retail store, where you can't afford to lost money by having customer wait to pick up his coffee and doughnut...

Good girl. Thank you for that attitude.

I just hang around... drink diet soda at the bar, or watch TV till she gets there..

Honestly I don't EVER recall asking any client to wait even 1 minute for me.  But then all of the other professionals I deal with conduct themselves in a similar manner.  But they are also owners, not just the hired help.

Really?  Jobs that require you to be on time are entry level? I guess that means all prostitutes are in entry level jobs. BECAUSE we want you to show up on time PLEASE. I even said please!!!!

So, I guess time for us to disagree a little bit...

but, you sound like you're giving her a yearly corp evaluation...lol... Did she already give you the time on the back end of your session? How much 'making-up' does an escort need to do after starting 5-10 minutes late?  

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If a person is late at the 15 minute mark and has not called, I consider the date/meeting/dinner/ whatever cancelled. I know a woman who laughs that she is always late and I am talking 30 to an hour. She is not a hooker but thinks it's cute or fashionable to waste other peoples time. And for the most part, if people don't do something, they will continue to get away with it. She does not do that to me after a few times she was left out of things, dinner was started without her etc. etc.

Sorry...that was funny.  

You are the perfect strip club patron at 1 pm , when all the lunch dancers are on their way   .
 
  I would fine my strippers  for being late , has anyone tried that with their ATF ?    

It is one thing to say "things can happen" but another to say "It's ok or expected from hookers." A gal with solid 10s should be held accountable for more than just spreading her legs and opening her mouth, which is mind boggling. You have women who are bashed all day long for their looks, but use 5 star hotels and are NEVER late. Give credit where credit is due for once! So called 10s should not get a pass for stupid shit, and I don't mean this case alone. Guys in the hobby let so much shit pass from a woman who just looks good, and is good for nothing else. It is bs.

What is out of her control? She was in the fkin room for like 3 days lol. Sorry Curly, but I agree with Tash and CPA on this. You might expect a gal who rated lower to do that, but not one who is seriously in the TOPS of the TOPS. On occasion sure, but not all the damn time. It really reiterates why so many guys are pissed off when that 10 is really a 7!

I wasn't wishing you ill, and I agreed that consistent lateness is a problem. I also agree that communication is important if one is running behind, as it is at all points in this process. My problem was was with the idea that being 5 minutes late on ONE occasion is "unacceptable" or "unprofessional". I've had plenty of "real jobs", and I've never had a boss have a problem with me running 5 minutes late on a single occasion. Also, traveling to set job location, where you walk in and clock in, doesn't compare with a job involving constant traveling and different locations, dealing with hotel staff and problems, getting stuck behind some idiot at the front desk who needs to talk over his reservation for 30 minutes, etc.
And even if no lady ever books a room for 1 appointment (not true, I do it all the time, including one day every week for a regular), you still don't know if you're the first client she's seeing after check-in, which makes the whole point moot.  
My "wishing you ill" was just saying, turnabout is fair play. If you find it unacceptable for a lady to need 5 extra minutes on one occasion, then that lady ought to, by rights, be able to find your tardiness unacceptable and cancel/give away your appointment. My other problem is with the idea that escorts (or, as you say, "fucking hookers") aren't doing "real work".  
"Psionic" is a real word- it refers to using the mind to induce paranormal events, eg, the impossible control of highways, which is the context I used it in.

Are notorious fro over booking and making people wait. BECAUSE we allow it. I get in on the alloted time at both because I made it abundantly clear that my time is as important as their time and that I would be billing them for lost income. It worked in both these cases. Again, you get treated the way you allow.

When I go on civilian dates, and I show up on time but have to wait a little for the lady to finish getting ready, I just roll with it.  I typically have set the evening aside for her and am in no hurry. I also love having longer, multi-hour appointments with providers  including both inside and outside activities in the hobby as well--much more "date-like".  When I do plan one of these, I have no problem with a provider being a little late preparing for the date as I have set time aside for her, the clock doesn't start until she is ready, and I have nothing pressing.  

No, it's the way you use them to suggest you are better than us, somehow more qualified to garner leeway and respect.

Posted By: ChgoCPA

The truth is...I have more than a few.  
   
 Not to mention a number of other letters after the name as well.  It's an alphabet of diplomas!  
   
 Sorry  

Seriously. It doesn't have to be so black and white. Life is going to happen. Lets be reasonable, y'all.

Sorry if stating facts is troubling to a few here.  Many of the board assholes have more than one piece of paper...in fact, some of the most insane posters are quite educated.

Posted By: OhCharlie

No, it's the way you use them to suggest you are better than us, somehow more qualified to garner leeway and respect.  
   

Posted By: ChgoCPA

The truth is...I have more than a few.  
     
  Not to mention a number of other letters after the name as well.  It's an alphabet of diplomas!  
     
  Sorry