Another odd question I know, but what can I say, I'm very curious.  I have had several clients that can only cum with a hj.  This raises many questions to me and some I have answered myself but was wondering about a general poll on the subject.

I do not fault a guy for his personal preference, so whether they want the whole sha bang or a hj, who am I to say?  I am simply here to have a great time and make sure the person I am with does also.  My thing is this; I was wondering if guys who frequently masturbate maybe desensitize themselves and get so familar with the hand and a firm grip, that intercourse just doesn't it do it for them like good ole rosie can.  Once again, I am not trying to make fun of anyone or anything of the sort, but am simply curious as to what others think or know about themselves.

I also realize that some gentlemen opt for a hj rather than anything so they feel (if married) that they aren't really cheating.  Others I know are nervous and some even have a hard time with the aspect of it being an "arranged" setting.  But, there are those guys who are none of the above and yet can not seem to stay hard unless they are adminstering the hj, which makes me think due to masturbating often, it's the only thing that really gets the job done.  

I would love to see what others have to say on this subject and hope I have not made an indifferent post, but they say; "Curiousity killed the cat, and satisfaction brought it back."

Smooches,
Tasha

Vegas honey, one reason also is that some of the covers the ladies use are as thick of rubber boots.  How can you feel anything in them.

Also, if the lady is not tight then the thick cover just compounds the problem.

At least that is MHO and I am sticking to it.

You are very right.  However, I have esperimented with one person, many brands and sizes and shapes and thicknesses etc and still, nothing.  We always have a blast together but I'd like to do more for him I guess.  And I am pretty tight, so if things don't get hard enough, they don't go in lol.

especially if it's the "second cup", and not too much time has past since the first (~30 minutes).

I find the experience very erotic, in a lazy guy kind of way.

I think there are a couple of possibilities here.  There are a fair number of men out there who are "condom shy" as one provider termed it.  For whatever reason, whenever that condom is applied regardless of how hard they were before, it just collapses.

Also, I have read that men who habitually masturbate to porn experience difficulties with a traditional sexual encounter.  I suppose it has something to do with learned response and needing specific cues to respond appropriately.

Hmmm... always had a sort of mental block I think that prevents me from enjoying FS to completion.  The problem is in my head, not having anything to do with who I'm with.

That said, I also enjoy having the big O without the condom, in whatever way a lady will be comfortable with.  If that means HJ only, well then by all means, finish me off that way.  Don't get me wrong here... I really enjoy the sex and FS gets me off just fine even if I DO masterbate 5x/day!  Maybe I don't trust a condom as much as I should, but I don't feel comfortable finishing "on the inside".

Yes,
frequent masterbation makes achieving subsequent orgasm more difficult and needing more stimulation.  I agree a cbj sucks and does little.  The most important sexual organ, is correctly labeled the brain, and if the girl is sultry, sexy, or an amazing turn on (which can be related to her looks but more often her attitude and mind) I can have a hard time holding back the orgasm
That said, thee is also some thing very sexy about being the hands of another woman, who demonstrates a complete control of my orgasm, where I am at, and can bring me up and down.

I often finish with a HJ.
Could be all of the reasons given.  Even if I take a few days off from self-love, I can have trouble finishing inside a provider.  Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Time constraint also leads to Rosie finishing the job.  I want to complete, one way or the other, and a HJ is a sure thing.

I just can't believe that so many guys can get 2 cups in a short time frame.  Maybe it's my age, but even when I was young & active, I needed a few hours to recharge.

Seriously, the first cup is fairly easy... and I tend to hold on as long as I can... just cause I enjoy the experience.  The 2nd cup, well - sometimes I have to have a helping hand.... recently I did a 2nd cup that was massive in volume via HJ - and that surprised me!  but I attribute that to my attraction to the lady in question, and the fact that between the 1st and 2nd cup, we had gone to dinner, and I found her to be just so sexy that it was truly a turn on!  so I attribute the volume to her attractiveness! and sexy playful manner.  For the most part, the 2nd cup is far more draining than the 1st... and pleasurable... I have also found that on the 2nd cup, I can thrust faster - without loosing it.... and that too is fun.... So, yea, it takes a little more effort, but can I get there from where I start? yes.... but the route to the 2nd cup is different than the 1st.  Cumming inside a lady on the 2nd cup is fantastic, but cumming on her breasts or buttocks is also fun!

and no, I try not to masturbate... so that is not really in the equation... but there are certain positions that are a true turn on... there are certain moments that really set me off.... and these are not always predictable....


What I have never done, but would dearly love to do, is a mutual masturbation - where the lady masturbates, and I masturbate - and we have simultaneous o's!  just a fantasy!  

once I had a tough time keeping wood... but that had to do with the fact that I sat with a raging hardon in a hot tub with 100 degree water for about 40 min or so... while my partner cavorted... when the time came to do the deed, we had expended the hard on... and it was not coming back (I think the thought of going back into the whirlpool really made the little guy shy!)....

So - we would have fun together - bringing cats back to life that is! lol!  hugs you are a sweetie!

A lot of things come into play with me.Add me to the list of being "condom shy" but only to a point.If I get good and worked up with lots of foreplay and a great BBBJ the condom use for FS is less of a factor.Even at 50 I still like my second cup, and sometimes because of time I do need to finish myself.But that can be fun also.Especially if the lady is doing the same to herself or allows a facial!

Frequent masturbation is not an issue with me, though it could be for some guys.  Since I turned 50 and started taking certain prescription drugs, it is more difficult for me to orgasm from intercourse or bj, especially with a condom.  I have to have a lot more  stimulation than I used to.  Has nothing to do with the lady.  After we have a lot of fun doing the other stuff I have learned to just ask her to remove the cover and hj me to completion.  Otherwise we would both be worn out before it happened.  I wish that wasn't the case, because I love to complete inside.  
I am glad to see that I am not the only one with that issue.  I was beginning to feel kinda weird that I could be with a beautiful sexy woman and have that problem.

Tasha you pretty much hit it on the head, I read where frequent masterbation does desensitize the penis. Me personaly I like the whole ball of wax and then after I can think about the session and then take things into my own hands. Now I have to ask you do you like penis action or finger action or D all the above?

I beat it between visits and sometimes the day before an appointment to keep the equipment working and last longer during the intercourse. Still, I lose it in about 10 minutes. For the 2nd cup many providers offer a HJ and work on it for half an hour or longer with no spills.

My Johnson seems to become less and less sensitive to HJ but not pussy

Nothing is better than a tight pussy.  That's my choice.  I can do my own HJ at home, why pay for that.  2nd and 3rd cups are a little longer in the making, but well worth it when you finish in a nice pussy.  I'm actually disappointed in a session if I finished with 2 BJ's, (forget the HJ,I can do that myself), and only 1 FS cup.

The more sha-bang the better!

I've been tossing off daily since I was in my early teens.  I'm 32 now and I lost my virginity when I was 13.  When I jumped into the hobby, I had only had sex twice in the previous 14 years.  Oddly enough, now that I'm getting sex weekly, I can't pop without a condom on.  There have been providers that have worked BBBJ for over half an hour with nothing to show for it.  As a matter of fact, I sometimes find my little buddy losing steam during oral.  I don't get it, either, because it feels really good and it kind of ticks me off because I've always fantasized about cutting loose in a woman's mouth.  Slip a cover on and put a pussy in front of me, though, and I have no problems whatsoever.

I don't think masturbation impacts intercourse as much as the condom does.  So many sessions start with some nice bareback fondling and sucking.  Then when it's time to put the rubber on and start thrusting, you obviously lose some of the sensation.  So if I'm going to want to have my first pop come via intercourse, I recommend to the lady that the raincoat go on right away so that all activity is enjoyed with the same level of sensation.

Also when I do masturbate, I almost always use a rubber.  For one thing, it keeps the splooge off the carpet which makes the wife happy!  And it also increases the sensation of bare back real sex (I don't mean bare back intercourse) during an appointment.

Fianlly, I love a good hanjob from a lady, and it's my preferred method of orgasm for round two.  What I've found, frankly, is that many ladies aren't very good at it.  It's a lot more than just jerking away up and down as hard as youc can until the guy cums.  A good hanjob is highly underrated, and I don't see it as any less intimate than intercourse of oral sex.  In fact, I've found some ladies really enjoy it because they like to see the cum come out of penis.  During intercourse or fellatio, they don't get to see the penis get hard and explode.  My favorite ladies find this very exciting.  So do I!

I write this because a HJ also doesn't have any physical exertion on their part. Perhaps they can't take it?  They will then more than likely close their eyes and fantasize as much as they can. The hard stimulation gives them a sensation to focus the fantasies around.

If they take an abnormally brutal grip the get off, and they are soaked with sweat at the end like they've just finished a marathon, then there's more than likely a physical problem causing it, and they then jack-off a lot because it's the only way they can possibly get off.

....then again, I could be wrong.....

The problem for me is simply that although if I do masturbate frequently, my cock does get used to a tight grip but only if I have been wanking it evry day for a week or so. The biggest problem for me is the use of a condom. When I grew up and being married for many years, the use of a condom really takes away the sensation. I cannot usually keep my wood while doing covered intercourse. I really need to not have a condom on for intercourse for em to be able to cum for even the first time. I love bbbj for this reason and I do love to screw but hobbying makes it difficult to enjoy an extended intercourse session with a condom.
i do agree with the people who have written that most women do not know the art of a good HJ. I have met 2 women who can teach a class on it but most just stroke it up and down quickly which really doesnt cut it..it needs to be slow, erotic, varied pace, attention to other parts of the body also..it needs to be more than the "act", it needs to be made love to