Providers,

Are you a golddigger?

Are you the type of person who continues to pursue a known wealthy man (hobbyist or not) even if he told you that he's not interested in HWP women? (HWP = Height Weight Proportional)

Why keep up the harassment if you been told to back off?

sunrosc

First, while women can be persistent, they also know that there is more than wealthy man out there.  If one guy doesn't bite, another may.  Most women I know won't waste their time on a guy who isn't really into them.

Second, I can't imagine that any provider is gonna admit that she is so dense that she won't take that hint.

Guys,

Are you a stalker?  Are you the type of person who continues to pursue a known hot woman (provider or not) even if she told you that she's not interested in OFBG?  Why keep up the harassment if you been told to back off?

Let me see if this is correct: A provider is desperately chasing a rich hobbist but he has no interest in her because he only likes chubby girls. Is that what you are trying to say? Is that the only reason he has no interest in her? Her height and weight are great together. No other reason but that? Not that she is ugly or smells or looks funny but strictly because she's not heavy? As far as her chasing you, it is sad but many women love money and it seems that is all she is seeing.

Are you an insecure internet bully hiding behind a false persona? Are you the type of guy that's easily wrapped around a providers' finger? Are you the type of guy that constantly WK's and over inflates reviews because you actually believe the fantasy? Do you think by selling out your manhood, you're going to get "extras"?

look people money makes the world go around, i hate that fact but it does, if your not interested just say no, you do have that option, no one is forcing you into this lifestyle, and you make your own bed, nuff said

Spicy,

You can read it anyway you want.

I have seen numerous interpretations of what HWP means. Very subjective and hard to pin down exactly what HWP is.

I never said that I was that weathly man.

sunrosc

hmmm, now their could be some truth to that. ( just sayin, it's what i hear )

No you did not but I worded it that way because I usually do that. I figured it wasn't you. Still whoever this is happening to I hope it stops. How sad that a woman is doing that regardless of what the hobbyists likes his women to look like.

I always took HWP to mean a woman who is not heavy for her height. I watched a show yesterday where a woman was 5'0 and 284 lbs!! Definitely not HWP in my opinion.

Bully?  No, I have bullied no one on this thread.  I would say I am just a mirror.  I took the OP and reflected it back with minimal change.  If you do not like what I posted, what is fundamentally different from what the OP posted?

Hide behind a false persona?  Far less than you.  My posing history and reviews are clearly here and visible for anyone to see the totality of what I have said.  You, not so much.  You are far more a false persona than I am.

Please tell me who I have "White Knighted" here?  There were not even any names mentioned, and I stood up for no one in this post--I just made a subtle comment on the OP's negativity.

Overinflate reviews?  Check my history.  I think you will find I actually do my homework, find ladies I am pretty sure I will enjoy spending time with, and my reviews generally fit what other guys found.  IF I could check your reviews I suspect I would find a number of low to mid scores.  I wonder why?  Could it be you do not engage your brain before selecting, or could it be that something about YOU makes the sessions less than enjoyable?  Of course this is moot since we cannot see who if anyone you reviewed.  But, typically, an alias hides behind the "WK" accusation as if it deflates their opponent and elevates their argument; unfortunately it is typically the sign of someone who has no data or logic to stand on.

If I did get "extras" for a lady, why would you think I would be indiscrete and mention the details coupled to her name?  Some of us do appreciate it when a lady goes out of her way, and we do not feel obliged to kiss and tell in that way.  But to answer your question, I do not post anything with the intent of “getting extras”, but I do admit I sometimes wind up getting more than others seem to get.  I like to think it is my stunning looks but I know better.  Last week I was in a hotel for four nights.  I made arrangements for a lovely young lady to visit me the first night.  We had a very nice evening—no review, she is completely URT.  We followed it up with dinner two more evenings of the next three, and she stayed over one of those nights, all off the clock.  Why are you so jealous?

In closing, let me ask you a simple question:

--Why do you find my post a problem, but you have no issues with the OP's almost identical post?  Are you a misogynist?  The only difference in the two posts that I can see is the gender--so I have to assume you think it is OK to bash one gender but take offense when your gender (a guess on my part) is treated the same way.  Why do you see that dichotomy as acceptable?

Spicy,

I do agree with you on that 5'0" woman weighing 284 is NOT HWP.

However, I have seen hobbyists/providers call chunky/chubby women to be HWP. Just a few pounds over what would be percieved as normal weight for the appropriate height.

Then, I've seen both genders classify someone who is HWP to be just right in all proportions in regards to weight and height. Also, I have seen folks classify a HWP to be women who are a few pounds under the normal weight and height proportions.

From my understanding of that situation, this guy is telling me that this golddigger is chubby in his interpretation of HWP.

sunrosc

i honestly can't think of anything less sexy.  :/  money be damned ... i can make my own money, thank you very much.

this is a pretty silly question, IMO.  no provider is going to say "hell yeah i'm a gold-digger!" on a public board.

however, i do accept gold and silver as payment, in lieu of federal reserve notes.  does that count?

why you ask this question?

Lungman,

I asked the question for a few reasons, which I will not reveal.

I wasn't expecting anyone to read the original post, but with 236 reads (as of this post), apparently people are interested in the topic.

sunrosc

... who clicked on it. We have to read it before we realize we're not interested in the topic.

Funny, for a so called computer expert ... you seem to have a hard time understanding how a simple message board works.

Personally, I was hoping for some Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich smack when I clicked on it.

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Unless a guy just likes skinny girls or BBWs, most other women are in fact HWP. For my height, I should weigh exactly what I do, but I would like to decrease body fat and not actual pounds...yes, they are two different things lol. Muscle weighs more than fat.

Your post was the only one that made sense of his, so thanks.

If someine has welcomed you to get to  to know them , hobbyist or provider I cannot see that as being a golddigger on the ladies part? IMO if an invitation to meet him suggesting a trip to his area comes into play as an invitation  then you should expect someone to stay in touch as you are the bridge  to your area however, if you word it in such a way to express yourself  saying I'd meet for a drink but that you have your regulars that you see, s apolite way of remaining friendly  getting your point across.Did you actually tell someone to back off? Or did you tell them direct that you like them but that your tastes lie elsewhere?   I dont understand what is being said to you but there is
a feature called the ignore icon. I know that sounds a little harsh but depending on how you feel you are being harassed because you are not turned on by her height and weight . Unless mail is being sent to you yelling or insisting you see her I do not see it as being harassed. But sometimes
men don't communicate well enough to where they may have misled someone. Anyway good luck with the situation . I hear you are a very nice and sweet guy .

Angela

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Angela,

Like I told someone else in this thread...

This golddigger is NOT after me.

sunrosc

If it is not about you why not let the other guy learn from his own mistake? Sounds like you see it as harassment and he's not taking proper measures to ward off evil spirits. Hey I'm jsut  ahard working girl if I am HWP to whoever he is givin hes decent and scrubs behind his ears I can dig his gold rod for awhile lol!

XOXO

Angela

yea..we need inicky back too..i dont even bother reading this idiots threads any more..

Thank you M'Lady, I have missed you as well.

Been a very hectic time--I'll send you an e-mail soon.

In Men's Rights Activism the concept of a White Knight is generally defined as a male who conforms with the beliefs of feminism for the purpose of claiming the social approval of feminist groupthink.

White Knighting is not the same thing as gaining the *deserved* approval of one or more females on the basis of objective *merit*. Rather, it is an effortless virtue that is achieved simply through advocacies that are compliant -- not with the individual values shared with one or more women -- but rather with a philosophy that is group-centric and focused on female supremacism.

Now, feminism is a very broad term that includes some fair, reasonable, well-thought-out and male-friendly sub-movements (such as iFeminism among others). But, overall, feminism in the modern age is dominated by a twisted concept of history painting women as oppressed victims of "men," rampant misandry, a doctrine of "male privilege" to justify unfair treatment of men, patently unfair legal treatment of men, etc. It is not at all unusual, in the broader sense, to see feminist thinkers claim men and women to be "equal" -- EXCEPT in those areas where women are superior -- and nearly always women are considered the moral superiors of men. Their hatred of men and belief in male moral inferiority is seen in such terms as "rape culture" or in statistics implying that half of all men are rapists, etc.

Now, a fair and objective approach is neither misogynist nor misandrist. And such an approach makes sense because men and women are members of the same species so that ultimately, what harms one will harm both. Neither male nor female supremacism is healthy in the long run.

The harm wreaked by a White Knight can be seen in his active policing of male behavior that does not conform with feminist models AND is also positive.

This is an important distinction. Most feminists (just as most non-feminists) would oppose child molestation, and a guy who objects to another guy molesting children is NOT a "White Knight" simply because his position happens to agree with that of feminists and opposes that of a given man engaged in unhealthy behavior.

It is NOT "White Knighting" to be fair, objective, balanced and so forth. Nor is it White Knighting to object to actual rape, physical abuse, deliberate humiliation, injustice, etc. So OT isn't a White Knight. White Knighting is only operative when the man in question is policing male behavior that is a positive manifestation of male self actualization that is non-conformist with misandrist feminist philosophy. (An example of White Knighting is voting for the clearly misandrist "Violence Against Women Act" when there is substantial objective evidence that half of all domestic violence is initiated by women so that such an act, if passed at all, should have treated men and women equally.)

For a man such as OT to recognize an unreasonable broad-brush and be as intolerant of unfairness aimed at one sex as the other is the mark of male self-actualization.

However, a man who confirms the negative images of men that female supremacism preaches by engaging in unverifiable and subjective ad hominems and pointless belligerence sets back the cause of men and is as bad as a true White Knight.

A lot of men involved in the hobby feel like less than a man because they pay for sex, and overcompensate for this by cutting down the women they pay or other men who also pay for sex. The key is to understand that it is entirely legitimate in the modern age to pay for sex (or not pay for sex) and to accept this without it saying anything negative about one's self esteem or value so long as it is done with a sense of justice.

Perhaps the following article will help:

I don't hobby these days so let my VIP expire. People who want to get in touch with me can use my email address if they know it.

you miss those two???
wtf.

Traveler,

Your post has nothing to do with the original post in question.

Now, you want to pose that question, start up a new thread about your question.

The original post is about golddiggers, not stalkers.

Two different topics.

sunrosc

I was never a good liar and I am far too honest for my own good sometimes. I am pretty down to earth for the most part and I guess when it comes to people while I get along well with most people I have never "chased" anyone. I value my quiet time. I don't want to milk anyone for all it's worth. If a man is interested he will let me know. Hopefully in my extreme geekiness I actually notice! If I enjoy him I will certainly let him know. Chemistry is great, however phony, feigned interest is not and I simply won't do that for the sake of a few greenbacks. It is too time consuming and far below my humanity level. I'd prefer to send them to a friend whom they may enjoy better with a proper reference. They deserve a good time.

I have another occupation/"real job" as they say so this is more part time for me. My day job is only a few hour a week and I am very busy outside the hobby so I want very much to see my gents again. I don't want to bleed them dry.

I've met some great guys and like seeing them when it works out. There is no pressure and I just am not interested in hunting anyone down.