Well, not actually but more figuratively.  I had a session with an attractive young provider that I had scheduled about 2 weeks in advance.  As I have had 5 consecutive positive experiences I planned on increasing the pleasure this time around.  My plan to do this was to use a thicker condom and 20 mg on Cialis.  My goal was to extend the time of 1st cup delivery.  Well, I extended it alright.  In fact, after 90 minutes of action if never happened (with 2 - 10 minutes breaks).  Don’t get me wrong, it was a great session.  There’s nothing like going through a half a dozen positions hearing a beautiful woman exclaiming her satisfaction.

After reading the recent posts of provider orgasms ie: types (little, medium, big) fake or real, this may have been an occasion where the provider actually got more pleasure than the client.  Of course, my intention was to prolong things but my plan actually backfired by preventing my own orgasm.

So, here is my question.  Guys, have you ever had a session like this where you never got off but the provider did?  Ladies, have you had sessions where you feel that you got the better end of the exchange in the pleasure category?

Yes, once. I have difficulty with condoms to begin with, and then the room was way too hot. It was a tad warm before we started, and by the time we were fully involved, it was too late to turn down the heat. Still was a great session. I walked out thinking I should feel disappointed, and was suprised that I didn't.

many men find that though cialis and viagra give the erectile effect they desire, it is very hard to cum on these meds.

With only a couple of exceptions, I'm usually a one cup guy, but I do use an herbal enhancer, so I can keep getting hard over and over. I've been with a few providers who were pleased with this ability. Thought I was a God a couple of times. Yeah, Right!!! I know it was only in my head, but that's okay.

A while back I tried increasing the dose of Viagra before an appointment with my ATF. Even though I was hard enough to drive nails, I absolutely could not ejaculate. We spend a lot of time exchanging oral pleasantries and she still had multiples, as she always does.

Now, who gets the better end is a non issue for me. I'm having sex with a beautiful woman and, even on the odd occasion where I can't finish or have to do it by hand, it is always an amazing and pleasurable experience.

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I would say that some of the best times were when I didn't actually cum. Hell there is a woman in philly that I spend close to two hours pleasuring her and forgot to get to it...

At first I felt gyped then I realized that I wouldnt of had it any other way.

I almost never go into a date thinking of a result in mind. I go in looking for the experience. I am rarely dissapointed. It is the women who are looking for me to cum to much, that I would say have been the less than stellar experiences.

Never tried the pills or the extra thick condom thing.... hmmmmm

You're absolutely right.

i figure im giving the guy a lifetime of memories to pleasure himself with so as long as he gets to see me have one, he's happy

its win-win

Turns out I only come about half the time I am with a provider.  Mostly it is a condom thing but it is also a familiarity/intamacy thing.

The condom notwithstanding, I have found that I need a certain level of intamacy to come.  So about half the time I am with a provider I don't come.

But I really enjoy the experience and have a great time.  I find that if I don't focus on the orgasm but on the pleasure of the overall experience I have a great time, regardless.  If I come, I come, if I don't, I don't.

When I don't I assure the lady that she should relax and not worry about, I'm not.  And that I am having a good time and an orgasm isn't my sole purpose for being with her.  But I have never refused a toe curling orgasm either!

Unfortunately, it sucks when this happens...I'm like a man sometimes, when I achieve my orgasm...it's usually a done deal for me, even if i'm not with a client. So I try to achieve mine last for the sake of the appointment. Even if I don't get my rocks off..I have plenty of toys at home to play with

I've had sessions with my ATF where I didn't achieve orgasm at all.  She did...many, many times.  I'm truly amazed how many orgasms she can have.

That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the session.  And I really don't care if she enjoyed it more than I did.  If she's having fun, so am I, and that's the important part.

I've also had it that she turned me on sooooo much, that I couldn't hold off.  Then comes the fun of really getting her going...and she's had some truly massive O's that way, drenching me!

Either way, it's still a lot of fun.  And if she enjoyed it a little more, what's wrong with that?  I would think if you could pleasure a woman that much...you'd enjoy that, no matter what.

it's most satisfying for me if he gets off at least once

Between the condom and the Levitra I don't orgasm more ofen that I do.  Not a problem for me.  I decided long ago that I enjoy the journey as much or more than the destination.

I htink it was Roy Rogers who once said that some learn from watching others, some learn from books, and some just have to piss on the electric fence themselves. Apparently you must be one of those guys who has to fry little willie to learn. There have only been at least a dozen or more threads in the last month or so that say over and over and over and over and over and over again that ED medications are NOT CANDY!!! And not only did you take a DRUG that you apparently don't need, you almost took the max dose. Most DOctors start their patients at 5 or 10 mg, and increase the dose if needed. But here you go taking twice that amount.

And give that poor girl an Academy award. OUt of curiosity, did she leave a wet spot behind when you finally gave up? No? Guess she wasn't enjoying it that much after all. After 90 minutes of pounding, there should have been a puddle under her if she was really into it. Why don't you try an experiment to see how much she really enjoyed being pounded for an hour and half. Give her a call. If she has any sense at all, I'm betting she blocked you. God knows I would. But when its all said and done, yes she did get the better end of the deal. She got paid, and you didn't even get off. Good for her.

Roy Rogers said, "Goddamn it Trigger, stop humping my leg!!"

Nice job hiding behind your alias.  I can see why you would be unwilling to have the community scrutinize your posts or other activity.

I did not say that we went at it 90 minutes straight.  I said out of the 2 hour session we had sex for around 90 minutes with 2 - 10 minutes breaks in between.  And, yes she communicated her desire to continue.

"a thicker condom" going in and out of a vagina for 90 minutes...a vagina that stops lubricating naturally after a few minutes???And you're believing that she actually ENJOYED this??? Wow. You guys deserve to pay for sex....

Of course she expressed a desire to continue. That is what we do. You walked out of there smiling because she is good and obviously professional, same as me. Two minutes after you walked out my door though, I'm grabbing an ice pack while I find my phone and add you to my don't answer the phone list. We are not rubber dolls. We aren't designed to just keep on fucking for hours. Yes I saw what you said about taking a break a few times. That doesn't make it any easier.

But mostly though, I'm astounded that after dozens of posts on this discussion board about the fact that ED meds are NOT candy or toys to be experimented with, you still went out and took a prescription medication without the advice of a doctor. Good God, is an orgasm worth your life?? Seriously.

And yes, I used an alias. I figure what the heck, why not. Seems guys can come up with aliases to bash women with. Maybe its time you guys got a dose of reality too.

She's probably sore as hell...and will be for a couple of days.

Taking prescription drugs without a doctors advice is like playing Russian roulette with your life.

No, I always get off but it can take up to 90 minutes but they are 90 minutes of bliss. Also I am 60 years old so everything takes longer.....LOL

I have found that the women that I make out with can only tolerate penetration for seven to ten minutes each pass. As I have grown older, I enjoy kissing and foreplay more than penetration. I use foreplay to build up to a high level of excitement, from that point penetration is completed within the comfort period for the woman.

Where did I ever say I did not have a prescription?  Of course, I had a script!  Time to reduce your caffeine intakes.

We always hear from providers who claim that men hate women (by evidence of their statements on TER).  It is clear that the opposite is also true apparently.  Perhaps it is time for some introspection.

It sounds as if some people here believe that I was out to hurt her.  That simply could not be farther from the truth.

How about doing some simple math (since some are having trouble).  90 minutes interrupted by 2 break equals 3 approximate 30 minute intervals.  Are you really going to say you have never had sex for 30 minutes (because that would strain all credibility)?  During these 30 minutes positions were changed and pace was changed throughout each interval (no jack hammering as it seems some believe).  

FCOL (for crying out loud), I simply brought this to the board because I had admitted to trying something different that did not provide me with my desired result.  I wondered if any had experienced anything similar. And, as we can see that great majority of the posts have shown that my experience is not unique by any stretch of the imagination.

I assumed you didn't have a script because no Doctor would have you taking 20 mg without trying a lower dose first. I do forget that Doctors aren't always that birhgt either. I never said you were out to hurt, and I don't think you were. I do howver, think that you have NO CLUE how the female body works, and because of that don't realize that you hurt her, and that she was one VEYR sore lady when you parted. Try this experiment pick a spot on your body, say your forearm. Get some lube and start rubbing that spot. Keep adding lube as necessary for 20 minutes. After 20 minutes, stop adding lube, but continue to rub the spot for another 10 minutes. See how sore it gets. Stop and wait 10 minutes, then resume, but only add lube for the first 10 mintues, and continue to rub for another 20 minutes. Stop and wait 10 minutes, then start to rub again, this time using NO lube at all, and rub for 30 minutes. When you are done, you will have a rought idea of what her vagina felt like.

Have we had sex for 30 minutes before non stop? Yes. Do we see more than one client per day, and thereofre have sex more than once per day? Yes. Taking a 10 minute (approximate) break between one LONG session of pounding and another is not going to make things any easier. Average time for penetration to ejaculation is 2-5 minutes. A woman's body can comfortably and enjoyably last 10-15 minutes on average. YOu are talking about 90 long long minutes of sex, with a few breaks in the interim. Yeah buddy, she was sore and dry as a bone by the time you finally gve up. I gurantee it.

No, I don't think you hate women, but its high time someone injected some reality to these boards. A woman's body is not designed for that duration of activity. Next time you see her, if she sees you again that is, tip her well, and try to remember what her actual limits are, not what she can fake because she is a professional.

I brought a "Performance" version of Durex, which adds a little numbing effect on Johnson.  I did it because the first time I had been with that particular goddess I came much too quick.  She was really my cup of tea on body type, attitude and discussion topics. We spent the first 1/2 hour talking and my giving her a massage (I really wanted my hands all over her)and then moving into DATY.  Then on with the condom I brought and into doggie.  It was lovely, particularly the view and hearing her "come", but Mr. Happy never got close to popping and when we changed positions for cowgirl, he went to sleep entirely.  It was sort of like he thought, "Oh, you must be done, and nothing's really happening her to keep me awake."  

I won't make that mistake again.  Unfortunately, my goddess retired afterwards. (Maybe the next day.)

HSFS - I am so glad you are the minority.  I actually have pity and empathy for you.  Everyone can hear how little joy you get from your chosen profession.  I girls that I see are low volume providers who actually enjoy what they do.  I know this because I research their previous reviews, PM TER members who have seen them, and have important questions of mine answered before I schedule an appointment.

As for your comment that normal intercourse lasts between 2 to 5 minutes - I am sure many got a good laugh from that.  I am not saying it never happens, but I believe you would find that is not the average.  Many hobbiests are paying $300 to $800 for a session (I always book a minimum of 2 hours), so that would be counter productive.

Now I also see why you are using an alias, as your "bring honesty to the boards" would no doubt hurt your business (or put you out of business altogether).  Perhaps you should consider "integrity on the boards."

Transcend,


Now I was going to just let this go and move on---shakin’ my head at the crazy ideas you guys come up with. But your last comments were one of those proverbial straws.  

And I’m sorry if any of this comes across with a little attitude. But,  after the  threads on this board this week, as a woman, I AM feeling on the defensive. So, I’ll apologize up front for having an emotional reaction to this. But let’s face it, as Howard says, a little bit of reality checking is in order here.

Howard is trying to share something with you that ‘should be’ informative and educational info about how women tick.  And instead of giving that some consideration—maybe asking some question about this since---maybe you never realized this—maybe b/c no women ever told you about this----instead, you respond with this:

1. She is in the minority:

Nope. I don’t think so. Being on the receiving end of 90 minutes of pounding away (yes, even with breaks), is not a pleasant experience. And, yes, I can think of some possibly scenarios in which that statement MAY not be true. But, generally speaking---no. It’s irritating; and not just from a physical perspective.

The wall of the vagina is very sensitive. It doesn’t take much to create some pretty uncomfortable chafing. I don’t understand why that seems to be so hard to get.

2. She gets little joy from her profession.

How do you know? Because she doesn’t like penetration for 90 minutes at a time?

3.  She should find another line of work

When I first read your plan, I literally winced at the thought of it…and hey, I LIKE penetration. Just because she is a provider does not mean she should just “take whatever any guy wants to put out because she is being paid” .  I have to wonder how many providers would follow through with confirming the session if they knew upfront that this is what you had in mind.

4. You understand why she is using an alias b/c (presumably)what she is saying is so wrong that, were anyone to know who she really was her business would suffer

You are soooo right on this one. The problem here is that providers DO have thoughts and opinions. But, as soon as she expresses one that contradicts the general male perception, she is setting herself up to get pummeled. And I’m sure these women can handle being disagreed with----but it always seems to end the same way----here come the threats to her livelihood.  So yeah, they can read some of this stuff and sit back and fume. Or they can respond honestly using an alias. I don’t see any other reasonable alternative.

5. you know what she is saying is untrue based on reviews

Just curious: did the review of this lady include a comment about how much she loves non-stop penetration? I don’t know—maybe she does.

Going back to the professional aspect, and again, speaking generally: these women go over the top trying to create an experience for you that you will enjoy. I also have no doubt that they also enjoy themselves; maybe not every single session…work is work when you come right down to it; and some days are better than others. If she is a classy, professional woman, you will never know the difference.

There are things that guys do, that can be pretty annoying for providers—I’m not a provider, but I can read. And one very common theme surrounds the use of ED drugs and spending a session with some guy who wants to swing a ram-rod around for an hr or 2---but may never be able to climax.. *Most* women just don’t care that much about this.

Being able to maintain an erection that allows for intercourse?...sure, They want you to have fun. If that genuinely requires the help of ED drugs that is completely understandable; no one is going to give you hard time about that. But take the minimum you need to get the job done. You don’t need to be able to tear down the castle walls with your hard-on. And just a guess: they’d rather you didn’t try.

Well, I am impressed that it took you THIS many replies to turn it around and decide that I must just be some bitter, burned out, cynical man hater. I expected that response after the first post, so I admire your restraint. SOrry to dissapoint, but I have outstanding reviews. I have only a few 7's, and a ton of 8's and 9's. I am also a "low volume" lady, I take no more than two appointments a day. I am also educated, and could easily be doing something else if I hated escorting that much. But I don't. Why? Because I love what I do. Loving what I do however, does not magically enable my body to engage in feats of endurance and performance that is not typical of the female body. The same holds true for every other woman in this profession.

You can have a good laugh at the notion that average time from penetration to ejacualation being 2-5 minutes, but before you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, do a little research. You will find out I'm right. Do keep in mind that is the average time. It is also true that a woman's vagina is not a bottomless well of lubrication. After about ten to fifteen minutes of intercourse the fountain starts to dry up. That is just basic physiology.

You can attribute these posts to bitterness if you want to, but I stand by what I said. It is high time someone spoke up and injected a little reality to these boards. Its time someone spoke up and said hey, we are humans, and as such, we have limitations, and when you push us past those limitation, you can HURT us. I'm sorry if my dose of reality rained on your parade. Take it for what its worth and use it to your (and her) benefit in your next session.

I have learned an important lesson.  I have assumed that a gfe would tell me if things were going too long.  There so many other options, penetration is not the only one.

However, as I can be stubborn, I am happy that so many have stated shorter (penetration) is better.  As I said there are endless options.