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89Springer 3154 reads
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1 / 111
Providers: losing a repeat customer

Today I emailed a provider whom I've seen several times recently to let her know I wouldn't be seeing her again. The reasons for my decision aren't dramatic, but just an accumulation of things that made me feel like a second-rate customer. I was cordial and polite in the email, and sent it for a number of reasons. One was to sincerely offer her advice on her business. I still like her very much, and I hope she's successful.

In her replies, she sounded surprised, and sad. She didn't do something, though, that could have changed my mind (if she indeed wanted to keep me as a customer): she didn't ask if there was something she could do.

I've been in business for myself for almost 27 years. When I was in a business-to-business operation, if I didn't hear from a customer for awhile, I'd give him or her a call to see how things were going. What I was doing obviously was trying to find out if there was a problem. If I could get the customer to say there was a problem, that gave me an opening to see what I could do to set things right.

I now do online retail. Sometimes I screw up or a supplier screws up. If I know something's wrong, I make it right. If a customer complains, I'll ask him what I  can do to make things right with him. Oftentimes, what he wants is much less than I was willing to offer. I remember one customer who called and was furious, and threatened to smear my business all over the internet. I asked him if there was something I could do to make him happy and, again, I was underwhelmed at his demands. I set things right, and he told me I had a customer for life.

The above is a long prelude to my observation about this provider. If she had asked me if there was anything she could do to change my mind, I was ready with a couple of relatively simple points. She could have easily kept me as a regular customer, but either didn't want to, or didn't know to ask.

My question for providers here is, if you've had a similar situation, what if anything have you done? Have you tried to keep the customer, or just let him go?

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1987 reads
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2 / 111
So you're sending break up letters to get attention…

in a business that is set up so you don't HAVE to send that letter.

If you have a problem, just tell the person you're doing 'business' with what the problem is. If she hasn't contacted you, she obviously doesn't need you. Looks like you need her.

This seems like the classic case of telling someone 'it's over' just to get them to beg you to stay

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ROGM 1961 reads
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3 / 111
What Did She Do Wrong To Lose You?

What did this Provider do Wrong for you to drop her?

HaveAGoodTime 1897 reads
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4 / 111
She probably didn't want to be a bitch about it...

but I'm making an educated guess that she doesn't need your business or at least is unwilling to go out on a limb to keep you. True, some ladies manage their business better than others, and nice hobbyists get dropped all the time to make room for their favorite customers. Stop torturing yourself and move on already

MikeShanahan 1554 reads
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5 / 111
An Experience

I agree with CO. Had a lady I met once long ago. Great time. Some miscommunication about an issue and instead of bringing it to me for rectification, she blew me up. I ended up resolving it but never saw her again which years later I regret. She was a gem.  

Posted By: 89Springer
Today I emailed a provider whom I've seen several times recently to let her know I wouldn't be seeing her again. The reasons for my decision aren't dramatic, but just an accumulation of things that made me feel like a second-rate customer. I was cordial and polite in the email, and sent it for a number of reasons. One was to sincerely offer her advice on her business. I still like her very much, and I hope she's successful.  
   
 In her replies, she sounded surprised, and sad. She didn't do something, though, that could have changed my mind (if she indeed wanted to keep me as a customer): she didn't ask if there was something she could do.  
   
 I've been in business for myself for almost 27 years. When I was in a business-to-business operation, if I didn't hear from a customer for awhile, I'd give him or her a call to see how things were going. What I was doing obviously was trying to find out if there was a problem. If I could get the customer to say there was a problem, that gave me an opening to see what I could do to set things right.  
   
 I now do online retail. Sometimes I screw up or a supplier screws up. If I know something's wrong, I make it right. If a customer complains, I'll ask him what I  can do to make things right with him. Oftentimes, what he wants is much less than I was willing to offer. I remember one customer who called and was furious, and threatened to smear my business all over the internet. I asked him if there was something I could do to make him happy and, again, I was underwhelmed at his demands. I set things right, and he told me I had a customer for life.  
   
 The above is a long prelude to my observation about this provider. If she had asked me if there was anything she could do to change my mind, I was ready with a couple of relatively simple points. She could have easily kept me as a regular customer, but either didn't want to, or didn't know to ask.  
   
 My question for providers here is, if you've had a similar situation, what if anything have you done? Have you tried to keep the customer, or just let him go?

mrfisher 115 Reviews 1667 reads
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6 / 111
Cosette makes a good point, it's hard to be so objective with this hobby....

I give the OP some credit if he offered constructive criticism, but I highly doubt it was appreciated.  Many people do not take criticism well.

I'm in business too, and the last thing any business person wants is to lose a customer and never know why.

Then there are situations where you just can't quite tell the gal what the problem is.  Here's a case in point:  

I saw one gal many years ago over a course of several years, and enjoyed her.  Yet, I stopped seeing her after she confided to me that she was attacked by some clients (Whom I have to guess were not that happy with her.) in her own apartment that she worked out of.  She also confided that she didn't bother to screen any more.

That left me with the willies and I could never feel comfortable going back to see her after that thinking some madman could be lurking around the corner.

There's just no good way of telling her what my concerns were as the cat was out of the bag, and I had no interest in returning to see her.

JoeBanzai 30 Reviews 1575 reads
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7 / 111
Most of these gals

First of all a few details on the "problem" would be helpful, secondly, I don't want to bash you here BUT.

Your post points out that while her "job performance" slipped, YOU were less than a good customer as you never mentioned your dissatisfaction until you felt like a "second-rate customer" and fired her. Too late to fix the problem(s).

When I was in customer service, I tried to do a good job at all times, but I also often asked the customer to let me know if I "dropped the ball" so I could improve my service and keep them happy. She may have figured if you were coming back, you were happy.

If my customer never said a word, and suddenly my competitor was in there, I felt like the customer had not been fair and honest with me. Not much consolation in "you're fired, but I think you are OK and I hope you are still successful" gee thanks.

It sounds like you are GREAT at running your business, but you might not be a great customer, that might be why her performance dropped

89Springer 1806 reads
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8 / 111
Re: Most of these gals

She was told before.  

I don't think details are necessary. It's run-of-the-mill hobbyist complaints, but multiplied.  

Why is it that when a thread is directed at providers, it's mostly hobbyists who chime in? ;) (I'm guilty as well).

Chauncey Gardner 1600 reads
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9 / 111
oh for F@ck's sake quit whining and move on

It's P4P.  If she didn't float your boat move on.  I've stayed at 4 and 5 star hotels around the world and they don't always do what I want either.  But I try not to forget how much fun it is to stay at a nice hotel even if they didn't ask me what I wanted every hour on the hour.

Cosette 1634 reads
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10 / 111
Let go.

People repeatedly say this is a business, and yes that is the case when money is exchanged but because of the nature  of the action there is a spectrum of involvement. Services like sex, therapy, oncology are different than your average plumbing, retail or accounting service. You can't treat them all the same.  

In your business it's perfectly fine to do just that. Ask if you can do more. I'm in retail, if I piss off someone I immediately go for the discount, or if that's not even an option then a gift. But this is sex. If someone doesn't want to see me or continue to see me, no questions asked, it is my body and my emotions being out there, I don't know if I can trust what they say if they're trying to spare my feelings or if they're trying to hurt them more than they need to be hurt.  

In your next to last paragraph you describe what is intrinsically wrong with so much in culture - communication. IF she asked you were ready to tell her. I can't remember the source nor the exact quote but someone said we don't have a right to be let down when we didn't ask for what we wanted. If you really were just hoping that it would unfold as you telling her I don't want to see you anymore, her tell you I'm sorry what can I do and then she promise to fix it, without you having to stop seeing her, you should have just told her what changes you wanted to happen.  

There's already so much stigma about women in the sex industry that things like following up when you haven't seen someone is tantamount to begging for money. Even here posts done by women are scrutinized for self advertising. When I reach out to someone it's because I legitimately want to know how they're doing. One has to find little pockets of dignity in such an industry, and asking you what she could've done differently after you've told her you don't want to see her again would not be one of those pockets

JoeBanzai 30 Reviews 1743 reads
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11 / 111
Re: Most of these gals

Details are always nice when trying to answer a post. Perfect example is you failed to mention that you had told her of your lack of satisfaction prior to your "firing" her. If you had given the reasons you were upset, it would let us know if you are reasonable or not in your complaints.

If she was told of your dissatisfaction and did nothing to change, and when you contacted her with your termination letter and again did nothing to try to keep your business, she didn't want it

Senator.Blutarsky 1857 reads
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12 / 111
Seriously? You went to that much effort... Really?

You've been whining about this for several days now and it is getting a little old.  You need to get over it and move on.  

Are there not other wonderful ladies in your area to play with?

captain7 1412 reads
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13 / 111
Bravo! Bravo! (Standing O) -e-

Posted By: Cosette
People repeatedly say this is a business, and yes that is the case when money is exchanged but because of the nature  of the action there is a spectrum of involvement. Services like sex, therapy, oncology are different than your average plumbing, retail or accounting service. You can't treat them all the same.  
   
 In your business it's perfectly fine to do just that. Ask if you can do more. I'm in retail, if I piss off someone I immediately go for the discount, or if that's not even an option then a gift. But this is sex. If someone doesn't want to see me or continue to see me, no questions asked, it is my body and my emotions being out there, I don't know if I can trust what they say if they're trying to spare my feelings or if they're trying to hurt them more than they need to be hurt.  
   
 In your next to last paragraph you describe what is intrinsically wrong with so much in culture - communication. IF she asked you were ready to tell her. I can't remember the source nor the exact quote but someone said we don't have a right to be let down when we didn't ask for what we wanted. If you really were just hoping that it would unfold as you telling her I don't want to see you anymore, her tell you I'm sorry what can I do and then she promise to fix it, without you having to stop seeing her, you should have just told her what changes you wanted to happen.  
   
 There's already so much stigma about women in the sex industry that things like following up when you haven't seen someone is tantamount to begging for money. Even here posts done by women are scrutinized for self advertising. When I reach out to someone it's because I legitimately want to know how they're doing. One has to find little pockets of dignity in such an industry, and asking you what she could've done differently after you've told her you don't want to see her again would not be one of those pockets.  
 
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kendallis See my TER Reviews 1575 reads
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14 / 111
PASSIVE-AGRESSIVE?? For me it would depend on who the client is...

BUT I have a strong motto about NOT telling people how to spend their money or time!
SO with that said.  I would probably just ignore them or wish them well and move on!

Never received a letter like that.  I have several long time clients too.  I think they would just move on on their own and not feel a need to alert me.  Sending a letter to announce seems too much for me personally.  I also agree with something someone else mentioned.  I do not reach out to clients, I respond when they reach out to me.  I have a few select clients who text me and I know it would be OK for me to reach out to them but I rarely do.  When they want to see me they know how to reach me.  

An announcement seems a little passive-aggressive & totally unnecessary to me but I don't know your exact situation

april_luv See my TER Reviews 1796 reads
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15 / 111
Re: Clients come and clients go ...

For many different reasons , it's not our place to question them .
Most of the time clients don't put in a resignation notice because they don't have to.
This is a service and not like any other business , so there is no way to compare to any typical business.  

If you had something that was a issue for you , you should if just said so

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1725 reads
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16 / 111
I shouldn't say this, but I get break up letters all the time lol

And it looks just like what I said.  

Sure, some guys are just trying to help, but the "You didn't seem that into me" crap kinda gets old.

I get lots of shit for not kissing guys' asses. I'm really not a mean person, but really, sorry I didn't worship you and bow down, crying at your feet lol.  

I don't think this is the situation the OP is talking about, but it does look familiar. This line of work is around for those who just don't want to tell someone they don't want to see them anymore.  

I just hope it wasn't a three page letter lol.

Cosette 1414 reads
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17 / 111
Yes I do like orgasms while standing. EOM


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Dr Who revived 1308 reads
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18 / 111
I thought it was rocking on a stool -e-


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russbbj 89 Reviews 1508 reads
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19 / 111
Well said Cosette...eom


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HooktardGold 1545 reads
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20 / 111
Sometimes clients are not worth keeping...

Far too much is demanded of the provider's personal time that she is not being paid for, so we are happy to see such men leave and move on to the next one who has the patience for that crap.  

In your situation, I think you're doing the right thing. From what you've posted in the past, it sounds like you're more of an ATM to this woman, than just a client. If she expects to be able to call you up and borrow money or ask for other things of you when she is not having sex, then she should also expect you to move into a friendship or SD type deal.  It goes both ways, which is why the lines are clearly drawn by women who run a business, and not match.com

MasterZen 34 Reviews 1538 reads
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21 / 111
Wow...

you are coming into your own now, Cosette. Just wow!

MrTwister 3 Reviews 1542 reads
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22 / 111
Re: providers point of view

I don't know why, but that strikes me as really sweet...the way you put this. Like professional but compassionate too, vulnerable but business like. Wow.  

I really think the chicks who do this and understand it in this way....are really amazing!  

Kudos ashley....I would like to have a conversation with you someday...you seem alright.

joecarter 1493 reads
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23 / 111
Re: Most of these gals

I live by the rule that everything said before the word "BUT" is a lie

joecarter 1624 reads
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24 / 111
Re: providers point of view

my impression as well

captain7 1389 reads
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25 / 111
I'm really warming up to you! You are Hot! -e-


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Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 1648 reads
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26 / 111
Re: So you're sending break up letters to get attention…

Move on and live life.

captain7 1555 reads
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27 / 111
Sorry for delayed reply, but my keyboard is all gooey!. EOM


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89Springer 1763 reads
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28 / 111
Re: Seriously? You went to that much effort... Really?

Sorry you view it as whining. If it bugs you, don't read my posts. Don't whine about them.  

I've been asking questions a little bit at a time, trying to get viewpoints on those small bits without laying out every issue.  

There's other wonderful ladies, but not in my area. There's nobody in my state (picture Nebraska, for example), so I have to go to other states for top-rated providers. I have some others lined up, and will start again in a couple of weeks

Rudy50 15 Reviews 1238 reads
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29 / 111
Flouncing

Isn't that what internet browsers call it?  When you announce you are leaving a discussion forum because of something perceived offensive in the forum, you flounce off.  Are you hoping she'll read your post here and plead for you to come back?

It sounds like you really wanted her to say she was sorry and would try to make it up to you the next time.  Neither women nor men are mind readers.  If there is something stale about the sessions it would have been better to say so and to say why and see if it can be fixed for the next session.  Maybe she finds your approach stale.  

Go away for awhile or try someone else for awhile and then come back to her.  You may not find her so stale.  Or you might.  Then you'll know it is time to move on.

dukkar 317 Reviews 1784 reads
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30 / 111
Re: Most of these gals

I understand where you're coming from.  I believe you regret having to make that decision despite your best efforts to communicate.  You would think she would have valued you enough to find out why you considering moving on, but she didn't.  

Just as another poster mentioned you could have been simply a bad customer but that's truly speculation because we don't know her reason for the lack luster performance.  

I had a similar situation a couple of years ago, with a long time ATF.  At some point I felt she clearly was taking me for granted.  Talking to her about made  small improvements for a while, but at some point it began to ignite resentment.  

Buttom line.....yes there are providing a service but they make the rules.  If your not happy  with they way your being treated simply move on.

 

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89Springer 1789 reads
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31 / 111
Re: Clients come and clients go ...

This is a service and not like any other business , so there is no way to compare to any typical business.  
And one of our most respected members wins the prize for predicting providers responses (via PM)

tg_baby 1698 reads
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32 / 111
Personally...

If a client had a NEED to send me an email such as yours...I'd be glad he didn't call again. There are some clients I don't ever wish to see again...I never sent them emails telling them their dicks smelled and/or they sucked in bed and/or were boring as un-holy hell. If I'm not up to someone's expectations, I'd prefer that he shopped around rather than try to get me to bend to his will (which would basically end with me not seeing him again).  

If she's immature enough to need the lecture, I doubt she'll value your input (maybe she'll remember it in a few years, but that's a big maybe).  

I never contact clients unilaterally. Unless they specifically tell me they'd like to hear from me in between dates, etc. If I send some email like, "Oh, I miss you so much, I'm so horny and bored today"...that would be so tacky on my part, and I'd expect him to think, "Gee, she must really be hard up. Guess her rent is due."  

I wonder why she treated you as a second-rate customer. But it seems like your expectations might be a little unrealistic (for this business) and also (from your other posts) that you're not the easygoing type and get really ballistic when she doesn't reply after 2 seconds. Personally, that would make me really uncomfortable.

1820590 37 Reviews 1365 reads
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33 / 111
You Get What You Demand, You Encourage What You Tolerate!

Springer, I first read this on a sign hanging in the Dallas Cowboys Locker Room.  I took note of it as I thought it made a lot of sense in business, as well as on the field, and would help make me a better leader.  I suggest you memorize it, start living by it, and stop tolerating all these providers taking advantage of you....  
 

Posted By: 89Springer
Today I emailed a provider whom I've seen several times recently to let her know I wouldn't be seeing her again. The reasons for my decision aren't dramatic, but just an accumulation of things that made me feel like a second-rate customer. I was cordial and polite in the email, and sent it for a number of reasons. One was to sincerely offer her advice on her business. I still like her very much, and I hope she's successful.  
   
 In her replies, she sounded surprised, and sad. She didn't do something, though, that could have changed my mind (if she indeed wanted to keep me as a customer): she didn't ask if there was something she could do.  
   
 I've been in business for myself for almost 27 years. When I was in a business-to-business operation, if I didn't hear from a customer for awhile, I'd give him or her a call to see how things were going. What I was doing obviously was trying to find out if there was a problem. If I could get the customer to say there was a problem, that gave me an opening to see what I could do to set things right.  
   
 I now do online retail. Sometimes I screw up or a supplier screws up. If I know something's wrong, I make it right. If a customer complains, I'll ask him what I  can do to make things right with him. Oftentimes, what he wants is much less than I was willing to offer. I remember one customer who called and was furious, and threatened to smear my business all over the internet. I asked him if there was something I could do to make him happy and, again, I was underwhelmed at his demands. I set things right, and he told me I had a customer for life.  
   
 The above is a long prelude to my observation about this provider. If she had asked me if there was anything she could do to change my mind, I was ready with a couple of relatively simple points. She could have easily kept me as a regular customer, but either didn't want to, or didn't know to ask.  
   
 My question for providers here is, if you've had a similar situation, what if anything have you done? Have you tried to keep the customer, or just let him go?
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89Springer 1579 reads
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34 / 111
Re: Flouncing

No staleness at all. Just some problems that should have been better. If she wanted to keep me as customer, I gave her one last chance to do so. If she didn't, then things went the way they were destined to go.  

I don't think she reads these forums. Believe it or not, I was actually looking for providers' thoughts, just as I stated in my original post. ;

GetFukingReal 1519 reads
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35 / 111
Been is business for yourself for 27 years????... Really? You know nothing about our business

Or the life/lifestyle of a provider....Do your customers involve belly's that hang over their dicks.  Hair sprouting from every feasible crevice and orifice of body????  Possibly bad breath/rotten teeth?  Fat, out of shape, flabby flat ass, balls hanging to near knees... and the list grows.  You guys are fucking clueless when it comes to what we ladies endure and put up with, yet you can come to these boards with your demanding, childish attitudes.   Do you even take into consideration what it takes to open the door to a complete stranger????  Then open it and smile with a cordial attitude knowing your lame ass is going to be doing the following......... Any myriad of acts listed on my menu!  

You idiots feel entitled, and it blows my mind, the only reason you're here in most cases is because you fail at marriage, being boyfriend and relationships in general.  Most of you and trust me I've seen plenty over the years have zero social skills and couldn't pick up pussy in an old folks home, even if you wanted to.

I can say the gentleman I enjoyed most over the years are those who utilized those for the review system.  I've met some wealthy, and somewhat good looking, in shape men who never post and would balk at the thought of posting some stupid, trivial snivial shit like this.  I've also found the TERmites to be the most gossipy, wanting to meet off the clock in bars, manipulating, as if they held such a higher power as it would benefit me to actually meet with them..... WOW

Do you men realize, the men we see on a personal level have six pack abs or at least a 4 pack, a beautiful face, shave their bodies, have an open mind, train in the gym, are successful in their own right... don't have to pay for pussy because they actually have a personality outside a snail.  And last but not least, have a big, thick and juicy vein filled cock that we actually enjoy after a shower at the end of the day.

I have made some friends, and encountered some satisfying sexual encounters.  But never once with a fucking board troll.  But I've seen so few LMAO.  It's my view, termites are lonely, wanting to latch on individuals with no life and too much time on their hands.  So U wonder why she is unconcerned with your departure?   LMAO.... You think you kick us out and have the advantage?  We just allow you to believe the garbage.  It's you who is being kicked out, and us all the envelope fatter.  From her POV, do you really think she gives a shit what some chronic board poster thinks about her?  She's laughing her ass off, all the way to the bank.  Obviously, as far as you're concerned the envelope wasn't even worth salvaging it.  The mindset of giving her advice as to how to run her business speaks volumes as to your egotistical, clouded view of the typical board posting troll.

Take it from a successful, former hooker.... with many hooker friends.  We are laughing at you, and those who mirror you.....One drops off the radar, and another is taken a ride.  You think we are held accountable, but I can assure you, the true pro's tap into an emotion, and will drain more than your BALL

89Springer 1629 reads
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36 / 111
Re: Personally...

Thanks for the reply.

I'm anything but ballistic. Very easy going, and not hard to please.  

I would have preferred to talk to her, but she never talks on the phone. Ever. And I didn't want to spend $400 an hour to talk to her about everything.

She often sent me texts just to say hi, or to send photos. I appreciated that. I saw that as good marketing.  

From reading her most recent reviews, it seems like I'm not the only one who's getting service that's less than what she gave just months ago.

tg_baby 1693 reads
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37 / 111
LOL...

I agree with you that the clients I've most enjoyed would never post trivialities such as that. They'd simply move on!!

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89Springer 1424 reads
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38 / 111
Never mind

Hard to know where to start with that one.

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AnotherDonJohn 1389 reads
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39 / 111
If this doesn't scream

...Of masochistic tendencies, I don't know what does.
Promise us that you're not jacking off right now to the thought that basically everyone has articulated in varying degrees of civility.

Clients: poor bastard but he makes us look good...
Providers: Do I have one of him? ...

The other thing is I'm skeptical that you were in fact a real businessman. First, ever heard of operating leverage? She "spent" about as much on you as she needed to get the maximal profit. Either you're becoming an SD/ATM or you're out. Either way, she should focus on the clients that are paying her bills regularly. If she needed you, meaning you were a focus area, you would have gotten more attention. She was only able to spend as much time on you for the money you brought in. did you favor certain clients over others? Of course you do. It doesnt make any sense to treat all wallets equally in any business.  

Second, no doubt you were never at a real firm because then you would know that complaining on the way out in the HR meeting is a big no-no. So, what were you expecting- offer of an extended beating? Because of course you are a masochist. Yes, you very well could be jerking off to this. Or the fact us: you wanted to hurt her because she hurt you. Which is whiny civvie sh-t we don't want to hear.  

As for your example of being a good service provider, take HTG's pharma rep job; i always hated the kind who called me constantly when nothing was up.  

A more serious word to the wise, best time to air a complaint is while you're with her. Things get lost in written translation.  
If you didnt have the courage then, then it's not her fault for your cowardice.  

 
And I don't care if you respond to this. The fact you went there with your girl made me lose all respect for you. At least you should've done nothing and saved her for the sentimental or revenge f.

hbyist+truth=;( 1715 reads
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40 / 111
Now let's get ready for the butt hurt babies

Who will be summarily outraged at her post. I mean how dare she call it like that!  

There will the typical "angry hooker" comment followed by "cross her off my list" and then a side of "well she needs to quit if hates fat ugly men", and for dessert, she must be a "fat old hooker".

I think I have covered most of the pat answers hobbyists will possibly come back with to soothe their bruised or should I say totally caved in egos.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 1575 reads
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41 / 111
Now, now..

don't mince words. Tell us what you really think, you fluffy lil kitten, you.

Dr Who revived 1307 reads
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42 / 111
You sure told him LOLOLOLOL

You are by far more narcissistic than most on TER...or elsewhere.  But of course YOU'RE just a former hooker who is still trolling on TER.  Nope...you're one of those old hags that puts her pics up on the boards hoping some moron will actually spend that $ 200 for a BBBJCIM.  I doubt anyone would really want FS with your fat ass.

And guess what...many of "us" termites (interesting...not many use that term anymore  LOL) have seen those SO's you allude to.  And guess what...most are pretty far down the food chain of male studs...very far.  But they'll suck the bucks that you made to support their habits.  Maybe drop the old fuck of a SO and you could finally get out of this world you (and others like you) hate so much.

Many of us are friends...IRL.  We get together and have fun just like real friends do.  Not you however, not with the generally successful guys (and gals) that permeate the boards.  You're simply stuck with the cheap asswipes looking for that quick blow and go.  Hit the gym and drop the cheeseburger(s) and maybe get some new pics...AFTER you've seen that plastic surgeon.  

Aside from the above comments I made regarding your bloviations...I completely agree with your synopsis.

Take it from a currently highly successful entrepreneur....with many hooker AND john friends (who are also quite successful).  Yep..WE are laughing at you, and those who mirror you.  And yep...when you get to the Happy Hooker retirement home drop us a line.  But then I'm not sure how you can afford to retire...EVER.
Posted By: GetFukingReal
Or the life/lifestyle of a provider....Do your customers involve belly's that hang over their dicks.  Hair sprouting from every feasible crevice and orifice of body????  Possibly bad breath/rotten teeth?  Fat, out of shape, flabby flat ass, balls hanging to near knees... and the list grows.  You guys are fucking clueless when it comes to what we ladies endure and put up with, yet you can come to these boards with your demanding, childish attitudes.   Do you even take into consideration what it takes to open the door to a complete stranger????  Then open it and smile with a cordial attitude knowing your lame ass is going to be doing the following......... Any myriad of acts listed on my menu!    
   
 You idiots feel entitled, and it blows my mind, the only reason you're here in most cases is because you fail at marriage, being boyfriend and relationships in general.  Most of you and trust me I've seen plenty over the years have zero social skills and couldn't pick up pussy in an old folks home, even if you wanted to.  
   
 I can say the gentleman I enjoyed most over the years are those who utilized those for the review system.  I've met some wealthy, and somewhat good looking, in shape men who never post and would balk at the thought of posting some stupid, trivial snivial shit like this.  I've also found the TERmites to be the most gossipy, wanting to meet off the clock in bars, manipulating, as if they held such a higher power as it would benefit me to actually meet with them..... WOW  
   
 Do you men realize, the men we see on a personal level have six pack abs or at least a 4 pack, a beautiful face, shave their bodies, have an open mind, train in the gym, are successful in their own right... don't have to pay for pussy because they actually have a personality outside a snail.  And last but not least, have a big, thick and juicy vein filled cock that we actually enjoy after a shower at the end of the day.  
   
 I have made some friends, and encountered some satisfying sexual encounters.  But never once with a fucking board troll.  But I've seen so few LMAO.  It's my view, termites are lonely, wanting to latch on individuals with no life and too much time on their hands.  So U wonder why she is unconcerned with your departure?   LMAO.... You think you kick us out and have the advantage?  We just allow you to believe the garbage.  It's you who is being kicked out, and us all the envelope fatter.  From her POV, do you really think she gives a shit what some chronic board poster thinks about her?  She's laughing her ass off, all the way to the bank.  Obviously, as far as you're concerned the envelope wasn't even worth salvaging it.  The mindset of giving her advice as to how to run her business speaks volumes as to your egotistical, clouded view of the typical board posting troll.  
   
 Take it from a successful, former hooker.... with many hooker friends.  We are laughing at you, and those who mirror you.....One drops off the radar, and another is taken a ride.  You think we are held accountable, but I can assure you, the true pro's tap into an emotion, and will drain more than your BALLS  
   
 

Dr Who revived 1406 reads
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I think she's a JAP

Whatcha think about them apples Mr. Hypocrite?

I'll bet that'll scare you  LOL

Is it time for your flaggelation yet?
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
 
   
 Who will be summarily outraged at her post. I mean how dare she call it like that!  
   
 There will the typical "angry hooker" comment followed by "cross her off my list" and then a side of "well she needs to quit if hates fat ugly men", and for dessert, she must be a "fat old hooker".  
   
 I think I have covered most of the pat answers hobbyists will possibly come back with to soothe their bruised or should I say totally caved in egos.

joecarter 1727 reads
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Re: Depends...

gee, now that is telling . . .

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carndakine 11 Reviews 1353 reads
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Re: lol i believe Courtney hit the nail on the head, he wanted to be coddled and told hes the only o

Is that really so bad though?  Perhaps he wants to feel needed and wanted and her doing that would fulfill that part of his needs/fantasy

joecarter 1779 reads
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Re: Been is business for yourself for 27 years????... Really? You know nothing about our business

this "lady" is the polar opposite of Cosette

what an angry, bitter woman.  Must be an ex-wife someone was happy to jettison.

0603450onThe 1515 reads
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WHOA...lol...WAY

too much writing in this thread.......next. LOL I can't even skim that fast. CPA help? Care to ad lib for me? Is that the right word? Give me the shorty version. Ya know, since I changed my ways ;)

Adjax 1748 reads
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Re: Now let's get ready for the butt hurt babies

That explains a lot imo. I happen to be that open minded young professional handsome guy with a 6-pack (or at least 4 during bulking) and can confirm that most of the girls I see on a personal level are indeed whores.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1596 reads
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Jack Nicholson 2 Reviews 1412 reads
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Re: Let go.

Babe
Your way too smart not to do well in this or ant other business!

captain7 1394 reads
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I, and I'm sure many others, will volunteer my services! -e-


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SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 1599 reads
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Less time means more time....

Less time putting on makeup means more time to read

Less time babbling on phone with gf about women problems means more time to read

Less time looking at the 200th pair of shoes means more time to read...

Less time means more time.... :D

0603450onThe 1539 reads
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Curly, you know

me so well LOL. Not about makeup, I'm an au naturale girl...and not about gf's....I have more guy friends than chicks, you can trust the more....but SHOES OMG YESSSSS!!!!! LOVE shoes, you wanna buy me a present ;)

0603450onThe 1536 reads
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I didn't

read it but I feel your pain Springer.....don't sweat 'it' what ever 'it' is LOL. You are a cutie. Don't stress love ;)

tg_baby 1387 reads
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55 / 111
Me? Or the OP?

I'm not. Don't care much either way, just not accurate if it's about me :)

89Springer 1481 reads
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This is the stereotypical TER thread.

In this thread, I've been told to let it go. I've been told I should have let her know what the problems were. That I should have said nothing and moved on. That I should have bought a sheep (or was that another thread?).  

I've been told that I'm masochistic. I've been told that I'm a shrinking violet (or something like that). I've been told I'm probably the bullying type. Or maybe I'm passive. Or passive/aggressive. Nobody said bipolar yet, but the night is young.  

With all of the psychoanalysis and second-guessing and critiques and advice, there's one thing missing: the answer to this original question. "My question for providers here is, if you've had a similar situation, what if anything have you done? Have you tried to keep the customer, or just let him go?"

Not one provider answered that question. Not even the guys who fancy themselves providers.

But if the original question had been answered, this wouldn't be TER.

Thanks all for playing. Cosette, you win the matching washer/dryer set for best effort. ;)

AnotherDonJohn 1661 reads
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You sound like a provider - no question, which

Is ironic considering what someone else said to me this week.

Or you're the ultimate Wk...

-- Modified on 1/15/2014 7:10:16 PM

GetFukingReal 1923 reads
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OLD AND FAT? REEEEEALLLY....ANOTHER FORM OF......

Your over inflated ego that results in a justification of your response that feeds your denial of the  true truth.  I provided at a rate that kept me in high cotton.  Enough of that... Regardless of the socioeconomic climate any of us have entered into this world....(providers/hobbyists) do you not understand the mindset of men who post here daily, not get it????

Fat, out of shape, scorned hooker????? Quite the contrary...I was 500 Plus per hour for 8 plus years which most here can't even comprehend.  Regardless of my hourly rate, the mindset never changes whether a 200 an hour bp hooker needing to pay her rent, or an 8K plus weekend hooker/housewife is all the same.... bottom line, you trolls are the mark and a means to an end, period END OF STORY.  So put that in your cheap pipe, or imported cigar from Cuba and smoke it.

The coolest men I've encountered have never posted on a board, or let alone posted their time with me in a review but yet, paid me 10K for a 4 day weekend  and willingly paying my rate for a 4 day weekend.  Those of you who feel you know who I am probably do, but at this point I'm just giving you a little insight as to my outlook from a now outsider looking in to the game.

HooktardGold 1370 reads
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K, here's my answer... I would show him the door. Twice! E.


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tg_baby 1743 reads
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Agree w/HooktardGold. I'd be happy to see him leave if he felt that way...'specially ...

If he had to write me a letter to tell me so.  

MOVE ON!! Why are you continually rehashing it on the boards? Won't change anything.  

Accept her as she is, or find another girl. I am sure she's finding another client to see. That's how this business works. End of story.

sexymarafouru See my TER Reviews 1605 reads
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Sending a text or photos is good marketing??

I'm going to have to go back and review Provider Marketing 101!

Unless contacted by a client, regular or not, I under no circumstance when contact them. When you walk out the door, I hope to see you again, but I'm not contacting you unless contacted by you again.  I think many of us would lose clients following you perceived good marketing strategy.

Isn't that part of what you're paying us for, to value your privacy?

Dr Who revived 1640 reads
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Not you sweetie

The getfukingreal poster.

But that JAP comment is really for the hbyst-truth handle.  He went on a bigoted tirade a few days ago.  

He sissied out from that and want to see if he has any balls.  I know he is a first class hypocrite and bigot.
Posted By: tg_baby
I'm not. Don't care much either way, just not accurate if it's about me :)

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 1416 reads
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How about a gift card from Zappos.

I am not good at buying shoes.  I have 5 pairs. Matching..  2 Formal. 2 Sports and 1 pair for snow...

3 of 5 pairs were thrown at me..  J/K.... :D

tg_baby 1260 reads
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LOL I'm sweetie :-D (e)


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AnotherDonJohn 1292 reads
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You've got chutzpah... Ymmv! eom


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0603450onThe 1493 reads
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LOL...Awww that is a very

sweet gesture Curly. I am so flattered cutie. Thank you.

0603450onThe 1309 reads
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HAhahahahahahahha (e)


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Cosette 1725 reads
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I answered. I said I would "let go" the guy

You're a nice and intelligent guy, but you are hurt. Nothing wrong with that. At least you feel something right?

Now, what's the next topic? I'm excited. And can I persuade the prize to be a television? I don't own one but I'm kind of wanting one lately.

89Springer 1602 reads
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Re: Sending a text or photos is good marketing??

I'm divorced. I appreciated her texts and photos, and encouraged them. Obviously it would not be good marketing for a married guy or someone who didn't want to be contacted. She knew I did.

89Springer 1438 reads
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Re: I answered. I said I would "let go" the guy

Sure we can have a TV as a prize. How about "which century did HooktardGold work in" for a topic?

Dr Who revived 1350 reads
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Was there ever a doubt? -e-


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Dr Who revived 1831 reads
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I vote for ultimate WK...is that like ultimate GFE?

Feel free to check out that tools posts from the other day...sure doesn't sound like a gal spewing that vitriol.

And then this tool has no problems addressing the gals here as hookers...and that was also a huge part of his babbleathon a few days ago.

I'll guess he's going back to hide until another opportunity to spew his bigotry and hatred arises.

He's busy working with Homeland Security to point out that every Muslim is a terrorist.  But he has to be careful as not to upset his employer at Waste Management.  If he loses this job then he'll just be another cheat on welfare...like he was for quite a few years.

Dr Who revived 1517 reads
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I suspect your post was meant for me LOL

Yeah...it's confusing navigating the boards here...but at your rate I would expect that you're also an MBA and working on your PhD.  And considering that throngs of men are seeking out your time and companionship at stratospheric rates, you should have no trouble getting into the top schools with their references.

But let's look at the obvious now...YOU had to scream this to me.  Screaming doesn't make you right...just makes you look desperate.  And you are...your words scream that.

But since you clearly indicated that YOU would never spend ONE second with a dude who posts on TER, how the hell would you ever get it?  But yet you claim to know...so which is it toots?  

And of course you're not fat...you said so  ;)    And I absolutely believe that you're asking $ 500+...but you still have to settle for $ 200 blow and go's.  Yeah...I've seen hookers like you post your drivel over the years.  You're just another hooker that is a founding member of the OTHFBC.  

And again your need to point out that you're a "former" hooker...but here you are trying desperately to convince anyone that you're a HDH...err was a HDH.  You never were, will never be.  You'll just continue to take that $ 200 and pray that some other dude shows up next week so that you can cover your 1 bedroom apartment rent.  And still getting those food stamps to buy your cigarettes with.  

Give it up...many of us know who you are.  You'd be amazed at what goes on thru back channel.
Posted By: GetFukingReal
Your over inflated ego that results in a justification of your response that feeds your denial of the  true truth.  I provided at a rate that kept me in high cotton.  Enough of that... Regardless of the socioeconomic climate any of us have entered into this world....(providers/hobbyists) do you not understand the mindset of men who post here daily, not get it????  
   
 Fat, out of shape, scorned hooker????? Quite the contrary...I was 500 Plus per hour for 8 plus years which most here can't even comprehend.  Regardless of my hourly rate, the mindset never changes whether a 200 an hour bp hooker needing to pay her rent, or an 8K plus weekend hooker/housewife is all the same.... bottom line, you trolls are the mark and a means to an end, period END OF STORY.  So put that in your cheap pipe, or imported cigar from Cuba and smoke it.  
   
 The coolest men I've encountered have never posted on a board, or let alone posted their time with me in a review but yet, paid me 10K for a 4 day weekend  and willingly paying my rate for a 4 day weekend.  Those of you who feel you know who I am probably do, but at this point I'm just giving you a little insight as to my outlook from a now outsider looking in to the game.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1534 reads
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That one's too easy

21st century. I could even give you starting and ending dates, but that might be TMI:)

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1428 reads
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I think you're bipolar. EOM


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0603450onThe 1445 reads
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Stop PS that's mean. I mean really mean. (e)


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Dr Who revived 1461 reads
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I can top that

I can tell you when I met her...what we did..where we went for dinner...and even what I had for dinner  LOL

And we didn't ask Ashley and Mary Kate to join us  ;)
Posted By: perfectstorm
21st century. I could even give you starting and ending dates, but that might be TMI:)

0603450onThe 1606 reads
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I spoke to them

again in my flurry of shit today....they were asking about their 'Daddy'...I told them you were good. Hope that's ok.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1529 reads
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Oh come on. He knows I'm fucking with him and he specifically asked for it! Eom


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0603450onThe 1664 reads
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Oh stop, you can still be nice for me. It's 2014...remember, NICE, good boy (e)


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Cosette 1664 reads
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Woman...no

What men are you seeing?! While that does exist if that's a norm for you, perhaps therein lies the source of your bitterness. Surely the likelihood that someone walks in with ALL those things is small. I do agree people here can be childish but that's neither here nor there. I can bet that the men who are childish and demanding are probably not the most unfortunate looking ones. It is more common that with shortfalls in looks, people are more vulnerable and likely to not be those things.

Last time I checked, it takes 2 people to fail at a marriage and at a relationship, so that's just an inaccurate low blow. Women are to blame too. As for social skills, I'll give you that, but really, you want to make fun of someone over their social skills? They are the easiest people to get along with in this type of situation.

What the heck does being wealthy and good looking have to do with posting here? And seriously you're going to make that generalization about men you date? You've just proven you're just as shallow as the men who brag about only seeing the best looking escorts. And since when did being fit  or good looking make for an automatic good partner? Ever hear the saying good looking people are awful in bed - because they never had to try. Is looks all you want out of a partner?

And the term "don't have to pay for pussy" is such a cliche, dudette, if you have experience in this surely you've realized that ALL types of people do it. Just like if a guy says "all she can do is sell her pussy" is an ignorant phrase.

You are a hurtful person, but not as smart you'd like to be, tapping into every stereotype there is to insult someone takes little effort. And your anecdotes do NOT act as evidence. Your arguments are void of reason.

As I see it, the OP's only mistake was in assuming that money carries the most weight when you do this, that's what he was having difficulty grasping. Your mistakes are just all over the place

89Springer 1770 reads
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Let me talk to myself about that for a minute...

and I'll get back to you when Springer tells 89 what the diagnosis is.

Who's 89?

Squirrel!

skarphedin 1632 reads
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Operator error. You can't get what you want from this thing. Adjust your expectations. -e-

Posted By: 89Springer
Today I emailed a provider whom I've seen several times recently to let her know I wouldn't be seeing her again. The reasons for my decision aren't dramatic, but just an accumulation of things that made me feel like a second-rate customer. I was cordial and polite in the email, and sent it for a number of reasons. One was to sincerely offer her advice on her business. I still like her very much, and I hope she's successful.  
   
 In her replies, she sounded surprised, and sad. She didn't do something, though, that could have changed my mind (if she indeed wanted to keep me as a customer): she didn't ask if there was something she could do.  
   
 I've been in business for myself for almost 27 years. When I was in a business-to-business operation, if I didn't hear from a customer for awhile, I'd give him or her a call to see how things were going. What I was doing obviously was trying to find out if there was a problem. If I could get the customer to say there was a problem, that gave me an opening to see what I could do to set things right.  
   
 I now do online retail. Sometimes I screw up or a supplier screws up. If I know something's wrong, I make it right. If a customer complains, I'll ask him what I  can do to make things right with him. Oftentimes, what he wants is much less than I was willing to offer. I remember one customer who called and was furious, and threatened to smear my business all over the internet. I asked him if there was something I could do to make him happy and, again, I was underwhelmed at his demands. I set things right, and he told me I had a customer for life.  
   
 The above is a long prelude to my observation about this provider. If she had asked me if there was anything she could do to change my mind, I was ready with a couple of relatively simple points. She could have easily kept me as a regular customer, but either didn't want to, or didn't know to ask.  
   
 My question for providers here is, if you've had a similar situation, what if anything have you done? Have you tried to keep the customer, or just let him go?

Cosette 1309 reads
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Re: Let go.

:-) From your mouth to the gods of entrepreneurship.

WondersOfTheWrld 1540 reads
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StraightCountry 3 Reviews 1373 reads
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Business 101

Since you have been in business for so long you probably already know that some customers are worth doing a little more to keep and some are not worth the effort to say good-bye to.  Whatever the reason is for her letting you walk there is a reason.  Maybe a better client, maybe decreased volume, maybe a bad feeling, maybe she just gets bored with people.  Your post was dripping with passive aggressive tones though.  It read as if you wanted her to offer any change in order to continue receiving the honor of your business.  Have you though about just not seeing her for a while and see if she misses you?

89Springer 1355 reads
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Is everybody here Sigmund Freud?

StraightCountry, I already exhibit all sorts of psychological pathologies (according to earlier posters), so I don't think we need to add more.

There was a change in behavior towards me that I don't understand, from treating me special to treating me a bit poorly. There's also been a change in her reviews, with some complaints minor and major, something she's never had before. I like her. I want her to have a successful business and a good life. I really do. I  don't know what's going on, but I thought I'd give her a heads-up as to my reasons, and maybe she could make use of that. Or not.  

There's no "honor of my business".  I'm an old guy who many 20 something's wouldn't want to see. I'm not good in bed anymore, but I try to make up in other areas. I was very happy to be able to see her. At some point, though, a customer has to say enough. If I listed the things that happened (which some here want to know for what I suspect are just prurient reasons), I'm certain the replies would change from "why did you email that" to "why did you put up with all that?"

On an intellectual level, I knew it was time for me to cut bait. Emotionally, I was hoping she'd say something that would change my mind. Even now, when the text message light on my phone blinks, my first thought is that it's from her.  

I experienced this same thing 42 years ago with my ex (then girlfriend), and I made the mistake of letting my emotions overrule my thoughtful judgment.  

 



-- Modified on 1/15/2014 10:48:28 PM

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 1650 reads
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Re: Is everybody here Sigmund Freud?

Hey pal,
This is a real thing for you. A lot of the comments you're getting are sincere. But you know that life is a game that's easy to play when you're on the sidelines. On the field, when you're muddling through, it's not so easy. You know that. You see people who have problems and you think, It'd be so simple if they just did such and such and such. But for them it's not simple. You were on the sidelines; they were on the field. Emotions put you on the field. You don't want to do without the feelings, that would put you forever in the audience watching your favorite team. Enjoy the disappointment in watching someone you've been close to damage her life. If it actually hurts, it hurts. So what? What will happen will happen whether it hurts or not. You are a good man. You care about the people you connect with. Take solace in that and suffer the rest with dignity.

AnotherDonJohn 1437 reads
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89 / 111
I let CPA do the work last time

And also because my long post was lost in the ether as TER went to downtime for maintenance precisely at that moment..

Any how, your comment about the "best men I've seen" is utter propaganda crap you're spewing. Its too late at night to technically dissect the language... in plain words, if you've ever met gentlemen like that, and I'm still significantly skeptical of that, it was like hitting the lottery for you- everyone even an aging provider gets lucky. You certainly couldn't make a living off of it. Try to deny that, we all know what rings true, despite all the words you try to put around it.

Second, there's an impressive degree of irony associated with your disdain for daily posting "TERmites." Again, it's late so I'll put it plainly. Whom are you kidding? There's  an old expression with a pot and a kettle and the color black... More propaganda. A whole lotta as hominem to disguise self loathing and lack of self confidence.  

I actually also agreed with the rest of your ranting.
But methinks the lady doth protest too much. Lol

AnotherDonJohn 1632 reads
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90 / 111
By the way

Personality disorders are known for lacking insight into their condition.

Vs bipolar, where the afflicted usually knows.

Try googling "axis 2."

What's common to both is the fact that they lead to overt social distress. Ie, you get fukked up at work, home, or other relationships.  

Im actually trying to help you, as this no doubt is distressful to you. Since you bothered to endure today's experience.  

Take my advice with a grain of salt or don't. Makes no real difference to me.  

In this era of Internet,  it's becoming commonplace to see more of these online...

JoeBanzai 30 Reviews 1410 reads
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Re: Is everybody here Sigmund Freud?

No  everybody here is not Sigmund Freud.

You post that you had a problem with a provider, but give no reasons (if people here want to read prurient material, there are about a million reviews, no one is looking for that). You are fairly new here, and either an alias or have no reviews, so we don't know what kind of provider you are seeing. People need some information in order to give a good well thought out response.

I see you have started a couple of other threads "I'll make it up to you" and "Should I revise a review" if this is all about the same gal, you are going to have NOTHING but problems in this "hobby". Find a stable lady who takes care of your needs, who really cares if she's a 10/10 or an 8/8?

I think YOUR problem is identified by you in your last post;

"On an intellectual level, I knew it was time for me to cut bait."

It might be difficult avoiding becoming emotionally involved with a great provider, but you will be better off in the long run. They might be nice women, but they are not getting emotionally involved with you, just your money.  

"Even now, when the text message light on my phone blinks, my first thought is that it's from her."

That's sad. As (many) others have said on this thread, move on.

Good luck and have fun with the hobby!

AnotherDonJohn 1466 reads
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Another good point and he reminded me of an important thing

Don't become a stalker!! I'm only half joking.  

It's the other side of the emotional coin you're displaying.  

One moment you're (over)emotionally invested , the next you're getting blacklisted and she's wondering if she needs to enter witness protection.  

On that note, make sure you're not ever tempted to contact that provider again. Burn the proverbial bridge with dignity, if only to not go Craiglist stalker. No, unless you're the last Ben Franklin on earth, she's not reaching out to you again. Get that out of your mind, if it's there.  If she's worth anything, there's no reason. There's nothing to salvage.  

You're clearly an intelligent guy even if you say and do stupid things- we've been there just not like that.  

People are sincerely responding to you, albeit in an adversarial/ jovial, always to be interesting, way.

HaveAGoodTime 1422 reads
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Try to consider her perspective

At the risk of piling on, what were you hoping she would say to keep you? Would a simple "sorry" suffice, or are you hoping that she'll confide her private thoughts and personal details to you? How about OTC time, freebies or discounts? Despite your emotional needs, everything but "sorry" is over the line, buddy, and you know that. Every lady here gets pressed for extras all the time and are weary from it - those are gifts you can accept but CANNOT request.

GucciGucciFendiFendiPrada 1330 reads
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Life goes on eom


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1820590 37 Reviews 1905 reads
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Joe B took most of the words out of my mouth, but to pile on

It does seem from many of your posts that you may have a tendency to get yourself 'emotionally' attached to the women you have seen.  Historically, I have not repeated much, but as I start to more, I can imagine that it gets harder to maintain boundries.  A wise person in this realm once told me to be careful to keep things in check and in the perspective of P4P, and you'll have a good time.  I totally agree with Joe B on his point that these women are not emotionally involved in you, just your money - so why let yourself get emotionally attached to them...  I definitely spare yourself the pain of constantly looking at your phone for a text from that provider - it probably ain't happening, ever...

I do have a recommendation that maybe you will find helpful given the past experiences you have shared.  I understand you live in a place 'like "Nebraska', so you are left travelling great distances to see a provider.  Rather then spending so much time going back and forth over email trying to arrange a date with one escort ahead of time only to get there and be stood up (NCNS), why don't you just travel to the closest big city once a month, get a nice hotel room for a couple of nights, enjoy ALL the city has to offer  (not just the ladies), and arrange a couple of dates with the top local talent.  If one ends up being a NCNS, you can start looking for another.  If you are in the Midwest, I recommend Chicago.  Maybe CPA will be kind enough to share his views on the local ladies.  If not, I used to travel there a lot on business and am happy to share a few of my fav's.

Best of luck Springer. Keep the 'emotions' in check, and you'll have much better experience.  And remember, they may be providing a service, but its not like they are doing your tax returns...  When intimacy is involved, you cannot always expect these providers to treat you like someone in the normal business realm.

Sparta

scoed 8 Reviews 1444 reads
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Well said. EOM


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89Springer 1478 reads
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Re: Joe B took most of the words out of my mouth, but to pile on

Thanks for the reply, Spartan8474, especially for the tone of it.

I haven't gotten emotionally attached to other providers I've seen, although there's only been four now. This one I liked immediately. She made me happy, happier than I've been in years. Just looking at her naked made me happy. I didn't even need to have sex with her to feel good. She's rated a 10/10 for good reason.  

She would text me often to say "hi", or to send photos, all of which drew me in more. I liked her. She's a nice person. I always knew I was an envelope, though. I did not lose sight of that. She told me once that there's one guy in particular she sees because he makes her laugh and feel good (long story behind her telling me that). I never expected to be that guy. I just hoped I could be a valued customer, which I think I was for awhile. Maybe I still was, but she was just screwing up with customers so much that I got caught in it, too. Don't know.  

Sure, I would have liked to have things continue the way they were a couple of months ago. Somebody mentioned the other threads I've posted. I did those because I wanted to get some insight from others to figure out whether I was right to feel about my place in her food chain or not.  

I have four new providers I'll be seeing in the next few months. Legend has it that Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius hired a servant to walk with him in public and, when people praised him, to whisper in his ear, "You're only a man". Maybe I'll program my Blackberry so that, when I start to feel emotional, it will whisper, "you're only an envelope". ;)

Sooo...YouWanna 1506 reads
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100%

I wish clients would understand not only how pathetic this makes you look, but how repulsive it actually is.  

This is the easiest relationship in the world. Why do some people insist on fucking it up with whiney ass emails and diva behavior? If she doesn't make you happy, move on. If you need a ton of attention, move on. If you feel like its no big deal to make booking an appointment take more than 4 emails MAX, move the fuck on! To a real relationship! You don't need to email her whining about it, because I guarantee that as soon as she read it, she rolled her eyes and weighed the options of how much she needed your money. This isn't your business, it's hard to bone someone you find irritating on a personal level, and melodramatic emails are one of the best ways to get there. If you think I'm being a bitch, understand that we get emails like that every day, and it's hard to coddle that many grown men over the Internet. There is very little we can actually do to "make up" for any perceived grievances, so it usually just turns into a long, attention seeking saga that ends in the original whiney ass leaving anyways and all the guys who have no problem showing up and having fun with no strings attached ignored.  

I have to say, if you've gone so far as to send a break up letter, this probably isn't the first time you've overstepped into diva category, and that's likely why her response was just a simple "oh nos, have fun". Sorry boo.

Sooo...YouWanna 1157 reads
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Yes, it is

It's really so bad because  

1) that is the opposite of what I signed up for, and presumably you as well

And  

2) every long ass email I read, and every carefully thought out reply, takes away from the guys who are capable of saying "hey sweet cheeks, Thursday at 4? Awesome! Text you in the morning!". Some guys text and email so much that they make a girl legitimately question whether or not the time involved in THAT is worth the amount of money they spend. Think about that for a second when you are just needing to feel appreciated or whatever for free.  

Which brings us to 3...

3) most importantly, that's not my friggen job. If you want a text buddy, join Plenty of Fish or something. Don't try to weasel out four extra hours of texting and emailing every month when all you do is book an hour in all that time. Infuriating, especially if its someone who is obvious about it. I can't think of many other businesses where the service provider is so widely expected to chit chat and dedicate their free time to keeping up with clients, but there's a line. We don't mind communication. We even like texting and joking sometimes. But completely unnecessary emails and texts for the sake of feeling wanted and needed or whatever are not ok.

JulianAssange 1541 reads
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Re: Heres the tip I forgot to leave you after you drained my balls.

Get a shrink. Get a few. You obviously need one if you think we give a shit that your man has 6 pack abs or is successful. he's obviously got so much emotionally invested in you that he doesn't give a shit that your selling your ass. On the other hand, we go home to our wives who have enough invested in that we do care and make sure that she is taken care of.  

Oh, he doesn't know? That makes you as guilty as us.

AnotherDonJohn 1267 reads
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GetFukingReal 1428 reads
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Get real, no... wasn't referring to your narcisstic, self absorbed, know it all attitude

But you certainly do fit the bill, make, model of who I'm referring to here.

You're an insignificant troll, none the wiser.  Apparently you have no clue who I am.  Dick doesn't enter my mouth for less than 500 an hour and I live in a roller...no 1 bedrooms here.  Hell, my incall featured 2 bedrooms so I wouldn't have to sleep in the bed where I serviced the fat, lonely, socially awkward fools.

Dr Who revived 1546 reads
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You certainly are a retired hooker LOL

So now for two days you're busy here trying to convince anyone that you're really an important woman.  Clearly you underestimate how quickly information moves around these parts.

So if you're retired...why is "dick" now being charged $ 500?  Guess you made that shit up  LOL

Why bother posting here if your target audience isn't the TER crowd?  Seems like a fucking genius like you would know that.  But then "we" both know that you only got a GED.

Go back to your trailer and watch another episode of Maury.  I'll bet you can guess who the baby's daddy really is.

Check some of the other boards out there...you'll see your name being bantered about  LOL

Sorry about this...but you simply don't or ever will get it.  That's why you're still sucking cock for $ 200 and living in that old trailer.  There simply is no exit for you.  Best of luck.
Posted By: GetFukingReal
But you certainly do fit the bill, make, model of who I'm referring to here.  
   
 You're an insignificant troll, none the wiser.  Apparently you have no clue who I am.  Dick doesn't enter my mouth for less than 500 an hour and I live in a roller...no 1 bedrooms here.  Hell, my incall featured 2 bedrooms so I wouldn't have to sleep in the bed where I serviced the fat, lonely, socially awkward fools.

GetFukingReal 1455 reads
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OH.... and post script... Once a hooker, always a hooker

Don't even need to advertise or post a fucking add.  I simply picked out guys who have a personality, have a body, have a life so yes I'll give you that.  I must still be a hooker.  But I love being flown to locations that are fun.  Austin on a three day weekend making more sex and money in three days than you most likely make in a month.

I feel liberated.  I guess I'm an advocate for the women that are subjected to trolls like you who have nothing better to do than be king and top poster of a whore board.  I roll my eyes at the very thought of some old fat man continually scanning/posting, blah blah blah. LOSER

I would rather stick my nose in a pile of shit than smell the seat from which you sit to post all day long and night.  When's the last time you cleaned it????  I recommend lyson and a scrub brush for your throne in which you post.

My condo dues are more than most peoples rent LMAO.  Thank God I live in a world of granite, marble, hardwood and persian rugs overlooking the city.  1500 a day, nearly 9 years in the business and bought ford stock at 320 a share.  Seriously, the crack smoking old whore you think I am is so far off base.  Even got in on Tesla which I dumped three weeks ago.  Play the stocks ever?  You should give it a whirl.  

As a matter of fact, most would consider me quite wealthy, and the only reason I get with my ATF's is because they can ring the bell, unlike you.  As a matter of fact, I'm kicking myself in the ass for even lower myself to your standards, giving you the attention you so obviously live for on these boards.  The only justification I have is when I first entered this biz is deploring men like you who have nothing better to do with your time.  OK, read this reply, and jump from board to board to board to board.... now time to jack off.  Time for you to troll another board now and see what shit you can stir their.

Listen to the Tom Petty song, it's Good to be King as you sit their in your cheap office, home depot style office chair with it's cracks and skids.... LYSOL.   Buy some lysol LOSER

GetFukingReal 1621 reads
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Other boards all a buzz about me? LOL Dont' think so as there are no other boards

That have any significance or audience.  Who gives a flying pigs ass what any other insignificant trolls trying to gather info and invoke their "spidey senses" are trying to develop.  It's an underdeveloped task, as are you.

Have a great night as you sit glued to your PC :D

Dr Who revived 1551 reads
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How many boards have you searched on today?

So you're retired...of course you are  LOL

And apparently YOU give a flying pigs ass worrying about what the other boards are saying about you.  Now in all fairness some of this is back channel via email..but much is out there so that even a tard like you can find it.

Go and have another drink...it'll help those "spidey senses" of yours.  And please...stop using the food stamps to buy your liquor (and smokes).  Welfare fraud is not nice!

PS...wait a few hours before you reply so it doesn't look like you're glued to this thread.  And it should be easy as you're scouring other boards to see the buzz  LOL
Posted By: GetFukingReal
That have any significance or audience.  Who gives a flying pigs ass what any other insignificant trolls trying to gather info and invoke their "spidey senses" are trying to develop.  It's an underdeveloped task, as are you.  
   
 Have a great night as you sit glued to your PC :D

Dr Who revived 1177 reads
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Yeah....the ad hominem retort LOL

Generally once a poster resorts to the ad hominem retorts they have lost the debate.  Congrats...you get the loser's award for most unbelievable poster of 2014 thus far.

Not to mention when a poster has to resort to listing their financial wherewithall...another point in losing a debate.

I didn't expect more from you given that you only earned a GED...but maybe your pal can help you write something a tad more coherent.

May the troll be with you  LOL

One further item....if you play stocks you are no investor.  Those who understand the economics and dynamics of Wall Street would never be proud of buying Ford at 320...not when it's trading @ 16.73.  Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!
Posted By: GetFukingReal
Don't even need to advertise or post a fucking add.  I simply picked out guys who have a personality, have a body, have a life so yes I'll give you that.  I must still be a hooker.  But I love being flown to locations that are fun.  Austin on a three day weekend making more sex and money in three days than you most likely make in a month.  
   
 I feel liberated.  I guess I'm an advocate for the women that are subjected to trolls like you who have nothing better to do than be king and top poster of a whore board.  I roll my eyes at the very thought of some old fat man continually scanning/posting, blah blah blah. LOSER  
   
 I would rather stick my nose in a pile of shit than smell the seat from which you sit to post all day long and night.  When's the last time you cleaned it????  I recommend lyson and a scrub brush for your throne in which you post.  
   
 My condo dues are more than most peoples rent LMAO.  Thank God I live in a world of granite, marble, hardwood and persian rugs overlooking the city.  1500 a day, nearly 9 years in the business and bought ford stock at 320 a share.  Seriously, the crack smoking old whore you think I am is so far off base.  Even got in on Tesla which I dumped three weeks ago.  Play the stocks ever?  You should give it a whirl.  
   
 As a matter of fact, most would consider me quite wealthy, and the only reason I get with my ATF's is because they can ring the bell, unlike you.  As a matter of fact, I'm kicking myself in the ass for even lower myself to your standards, giving you the attention you so obviously live for on these boards.  The only justification I have is when I first entered this biz is deploring men like you who have nothing better to do with your time.  OK, read this reply, and jump from board to board to board to board.... now time to jack off.  Time for you to troll another board now and see what shit you can stir their.  
   
 Listen to the Tom Petty song, it's Good to be King as you sit their in your cheap office, home depot style office chair with it's cracks and skids.... LYSOL.   Buy some lysol LOSER

GetFukingReal 1841 reads
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One...The only one that matters in the hobby world...TER

But I can certainly understand why you sit in your broken down old chair cross referencing "all the other boards" as you proclaim.  LMAO.  I feel for ya, seriously I do.

Dr Who revived 1272 reads
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So let's recap your silliness...shall we?

You tell "us" that you're a 500+/hour hooker that is retired...yet here you are.

You have made a gazillion bucks and yet here you are...how's that really working for ya?

You have six pack dudes...actually guys who drink six packs coveting your ass...yep, the useless SO.

You pretend you understand stock price analysis...you don't.  I doubt you would know how to even google it.  Probably still using some burner phone as your sole internet access...limited I might add.  What a shame.

You claim to think that TER is the only board...but you also claim to have been around for 8+ years...Me thinks you've been around for 28+ years.  And they still won't put you in the Hooker Retirement home due to your inability to pay even squatters rates.  And since TER is only a small fraction of the total hooker market...maybe educate yourself and see what else is out there.  There's even a market for old, fat and ugly broads.  Check it out.

So yeah...me and my pals will just sit our old fat asses in our old (but paid for) chairs in our old (but paid for) homes/offices.  And we'll just look over our old (and fully invested) retirement accounts and investment portfolios so we can see the young hotties that actually do charge 500+.  And might I add have a strong future in this game. You..well that train has left the station...a long time ago.  

See how easy that was?

So maybe you can get fucking real  LOL
Posted By: GetFukingReal
But I can certainly understand why you sit in your broken down old chair cross referencing "all the other boards" as you proclaim.  LMAO.  I feel for ya, seriously I do.

earthshined 1570 reads
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not necessary to. tell a provider its "over".even though its odd

if you think about how "personal " this business transaction is compared to others.

There is no explanation she owes you when she decides to quit either. Just the way it is

AnotherDonJohn 1680 reads
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Ie, I'm lonely - waaaaa. Call me! Eom


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