TER General Board

Re: Delisted provider. Would you?
kind.words 1703 reads
posted
1 / 12

Alias used to keep speculation low, but if you knew of a provider with strong reviews who then disappeared, would you still want to see her or would the appearance of impropriety be too large an obstacle?

johnhuntback 499 reads
posted
2 / 12

about a year ago. I've seen her several times since then, and will continue to do so when she's in my area.

shudaknownbetter 435 reads
posted
3 / 12

One really has no way of knowing why a provider was delisted.  The obivious reason is self reviews.  A provider could also be voluntarily delisted because of a relationship, needing to go UTR (relationship trouble, child custody, legal problems, retiring).  
You could ask her but don't think you'd be able to rely on the answer.  Has she been continually in business?  Ads up, web site up?  

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 426 reads
posted
4 / 12

I know two voluntarily delisted providers I wouldn't hesitate to see.

But I know one delisted provider I would never see.

It just can't be generalized.

MarkusKetterman 150 Reviews 345 reads
posted
5 / 12

and they did not advertise on or use this site, so they had themselves delisted.

There are many ladies out there who do not want the publicity.

There are liabilities to being reviewed including but not limited to privacy and control of information: ie she wants her phone number or direct email only to go to screened gents but reviewers keep putting it on her profile, of being reviewed.

Many are also beginning to think that being reviewed may have legal consequesnces as well.

The review system has been a great benefit to me and I appreciate it.

But I have no problem with providers - many of whom are on the high end of the spectrum and do not need to advertise - declinging a presence here.



laurensummerhill See my TER Reviews 460 reads
posted
6 / 12

I know a provider who had prior identity delisted after shew as outed to her private life.

Then she started a new name and website, got a review on TER and started posting. Everything was going swimmingly until one day she gets kicked off the site and her review is pulled.

She wrote asking why: "You are a previously delisted provider, which you requested  under your previous stage name."

She asked for a resolution, wanting to stay under her new name, explaining what the previous delisting was about.

"You have been delisted," they answered.


I think that's an awful approach. For women who get outed it means they have to say goodbye to TER forever, even when things calm down and they're ready to come back.


shudaknownbetter 459 reads
posted
7 / 12

Actually, voluntary delisting can be reversed, in certain cases at least.  Perhaps it has to be reversed under the earlier stage name and then converted to a new one.  
Obiviously, this is done so poor providers do not get to leave their old reviews behind by delisting and then reappear under a new stage name.

kind.words 406 reads
posted
8 / 12

I do agree that changing names to lose bad reviews is and should certainly be a no-no.

I don't believe that's the case here, but I suppose that only a couple people know the whole story.

laurensummerhill See my TER Reviews 280 reads
posted
9 / 12

In her case, she tried to find a way to come to any conclusion that would allow her to be relisted, and they simply weren't interested in talking about it.

In fact, they were curt and rude.

Also, having to relist an old identity to have your new one listed makes no sense if you've been outed.

However, I see your point about awful providers delisting, only to scam again under a new name.  However, her old reviews were excellent, so there was nothing to run away from.

I felt the whole thing reflected poor business etiquette on the part of TER administration.

Claudius42310 13 Reviews 305 reads
posted
10 / 12

If I had seen her before and was fundamentally happy seeing her, I'd continue. The only reason not would be some indication she was cooperating with people hostile to my interests.

If I had not seen her before, I still might. If she were recommended to me by a provider who is a favorite and knows me well I'd strongly consider the recommendation. I want to not overburden my faves with my dubious companionship ;-). I prefer to preserve relationships that are good for me and want to be good for them as well.

I will give less weight to a recommendation from a fellow hobbyist whose tastes seem to be very similar. Without some established similarity I'd probably not act on the recommendation.

This can be viewed as my being prejudiced in favor of trusting women more or weighting more heavily those who know my company best. I'm probably guilty on both counts. ;-)

I understand that going UTR may be needed for personal reasons. If a lady is going to be more visible in her civy life going UTR in the hobby might save her a lot of grief, for instance.


AlfredReader 17 Reviews 273 reads
posted
11 / 12

In the past there were some very weird and inconsistent decisions made on here.  I am aware of multiple providers who were delisted voluntarily because they had been outed, retired, etc.  Some came back with their orig name, others were not allowed to.  Some came back with new name, others were not allowed to.

Etiquette was never the strong suit for some admin here.

jannisary 11 Reviews 221 reads
posted
12 / 12

I might see the provider.  I definitely would not let her delisted status on this site alone determine my course of action.  

As others have said, ladies can ask to be voluntarily delisted due to problems with privacy, custody, stalking, etc.  In my area I know of more ladies who were voluntarily delisted for those reasons than delisted for safety/service reasons.

This site is great and offers a lot of information but there are other valuable resources of information that can come into play as well when making a decision.    

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