Gents, recently I saw a provider who was good looking, had personality and was willing to please.  However, she was not what I would call GFE.  That is, no kissing, no DATY, no touching or kissing specific body parts etc.  While the service was certainly good, and she was certainly relaxed about time (that is at no point during the session did I ever feel rushed or pushed out the door...) it was not a GFE session in any way and she does not advertise as GFE!  So the ad was accurate, the pics were spot on... and the rate was as quoted.

The question is - would you see a lady like this?  That is no kissing etc.  But still ok in all other areas?  curious....  I would prefer not to write a review, as I think it would actually hurt her business....  What say all?

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that there was no kissing or DATY, I would not have called her, as these are both very important to me. You say, "She does not advertise GFE", but does she specifically say, "No kissing or DATY"? Since you seem to have enjoyed the session, and the service was good, I think you can write a review that is tactful enough, but still states all the facts. We all know the way you can write, and I think you can do it without hurting her business.

BizzaroSD,

I agree with Hungary. "no kissing, no DATY, no touching or kissing specific body parts etc." is certainly a big part of the GFE experience for me. I also would not have contacted her if I knew there were some restrictions. I think you should do a review and give "just the facts". That way a hobbyist wanting to schedule time with the lady can be aware of exactly what services are provided. If it costs her business, then it's just because of the services she does or doesn't provide. There may be some who will still see her, but without the details in order to make an educated decision, she might get some really negative reviews if there are unmet expectations.

C_K

In my opinion, you are being unfair to her.  Why on earth would you make an appointment with a lady that clearly states she does not provide GFE Services and this is what you prefer?  And then write a review about it when she does not provide those services.  Yes, it could hurt her business! I never understood why gentlemen make an appointment with a lady and expect her to be something she clearly is not.  Such as the right age, the right look, the right size, the right services, etc, etc! It is really not fair to the lady!  Urgggh...........

You talked me into it. Damn, I'm easy.

The OP posted "it was not a GFE session in any way and she does not advertise as GFE!"  with the operative word being NOT.

Why he would go see her when she clearly did not say she was GFE is another matter.

Wake up  guys!






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While I know that it is important for a lady to be accurate and honest in the services she provides, I would think that most gentlemen enjoy the GFE provider. I think that affection in its many forms are an important part of enjoying a shared adventure with a "date" and for me connecting is really an important and intimate part of this experience. I would guess that there are more men out there that want to enjoy a comfortable and fun time with a GFE lady rather than just have mechanical experience..but this is only my guess.
--Sitara Devi

You said, "She does not advertise as GFE."

Does she advertise as "Not GFE"? If not, there's no basis for the torching you seem to be getting.

do NOTHING a GF does!  They obviously have never had a BF..at least not for very long.  these ladies ate known as 1/2AGFE  ( half ass GFE)  not worth the gas to go see!

I do, I went with no expectations.  As I say, her personality was great... we laughed and acted silly, but again others may not be as aware of the issues.

CK - that was the answer I was seeking - the reason to write the review.

I see a girl like this regularly when she comes to town. She's 21 and absolutely beautiful with a personality to match. If she ever goes GFE, she'll be a 10,10. BTW, I did review her and I know I didn't hurt her business.

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I NEVER SAID That I expected GFE!  did I?  huh...  quote the sentence where I did that - PHULEEESE....  I made the appointment recognizing what I might get.  In truth of the matter her pesonality was just fantastic.  Could not have been better.... Unfair?  If I write a truthful and very honest review, I will be forced to provide the facts - no kissing, no DATY and a CBJ.  Certainly she had other skills that more than made up for this (her control of her PC muscle was just incredible!!!!) and the covered BJ was good!  and she talked throughout the session - telling me what she liked etc and asking what I would like....

So I am trying to be the opposite... Fair...  Have YOU LOOKED at the TER form?  what would you have me do ? Lie?  so much for fair lady.

This is NOT about going to see someone where I expect something she does not provide... it is whether or not I should write a review about a provider given that she does not provide GFE... my question is a general one... does it hurt a providers biz, if she gives great service but it is not GFE... THAT is the question not the sack of Stuff you are lamenting about.

sheese... ya gots to draw some folks a diagram EACH and EVERY TIME!

point.  Should ladies advertise "not GFE?"  specifically?  

I have seen a couple who advertise and certainly their reviews reflect that they do not provide GFE services.... some are better than others... this lady in question was better and more honest than average.  She had a sexy body... and a very playful manner that in fact is a turnon to me... The above folks failed to recognize that I am trying to not hurt her business... sheese - almost impossible now that this can of worms is open.

was exactly the way I read it, hence, my earlier response, but maybe I read a little slower than some.

Diagrams, circles, arrows, sometimes the visual aids help.

My curiosity is piqued about what this gal does to rate so high despite the lack of DFK and DATY.

when quite the opposite is true.  stated another way - IS there a market for ladies who do NOT provide GFE?  there... is that better...!?  lol!

I typically seek out GFE based on previous reviews of the lady. However, there are times when I choose to see someone, who doesn't provide GFE, based on her reviews, because I'm interested in such things as convenience, great massage, water play, etc., along with personality and physical attributes. I have given good and accurate reviews based on my experience. I've never been refused a repeat visit.

I've read reviews where the guy asked for CBJ, when BBBJ was offered, and no DFKing, so there might be a significant market for guys who are extra cautious.

For many GFE (whatever it entails to you) is important, for others it is not.  Be fair, even handed and honest, from the sound of it it will actually HELP her business.

Here is my reasoning on this.  We all want what we want the way we want it, right?  So if I read a ladies ad, website site and reviews and have done my research then I know what to expect with her in terms of accurate pics, attitude. type of service I can expect, and all the other myriad of details that go into a great experience.

For each client just what makes an experience a great experience is different.  If the lady provides the kind of experience I desire then I will book with her.  I know what to expect in general and allowing for the YMMV factor, I should have a good time, right.

But if I clearly know that she doesn't provide a service I find crucial to having a good time, and I book with her anyway, I can probably expect to not have a great experience.

So write the review, talk about what she does and doesn't do, be tactful, and honest and you will help her business because all future clients can book with a lady whose services match their personal taste.

For me there are a couple local ladies that get consistant rave reviews and I find charming on the local boards, but they are not GFE.  I was pretty sure after all this time that I really really need GFE to have a great time, in general.

I saw them anyway, had a decent time but what I learned was that my idea of GFE is crucial to me having an outstanding time.

I still, from time to time, book with a non GFE, or FBST provider or just with a gal that is not my type.  Why, I still like to experiment with my experiences---who knows I may learn something or broaden my horizons.  

I have never been disappointed doing this because I research the ladies before booking, but I don't always have a great time either.  Hey every now and again I order cauliflower at a restaurant even though I really don't like it.  Why, because a few times the chef was magnificent and showed me what cauliflower can truely be like when done by a master.

Sorry!  I guess did come off as not reading what you had to say.  There are a ton of guys who are extra cautious, I know this from experience.  I just think you need to be careful in what you say so that the review doesn't sound like she is misleading people in her advertising.  I wasn't pointing the finger at you directly, but I have seen in many cases men not reading the fine print from ladies........then expecting more or a different type of provider. If you say her website is accurate and she provided what was stated that should not hurt her business.  There are tons of guys that don't want or expect GFE,so I guess I was surprised you would ask about it in a forum when she gave you what was advertised.

If the provider does not advertise a GFE experience I am not clear on how the review will hurt her business. I mean as long as one understands what the situation will be there should be no negative implications.

For myself the entire GFE experience is very important..LFK/DFK/BBBJ/DATY are very important to me. Therefore, I would not see a provider such as you describe.

As for generating the review..maybe a reward for "truth in advertising" justifies writing the review..your call ofcourse.

And yes there is a whole market of gents not looking for a GFE or Escort experience.  The FBSM realm is huge!

Please accept my humble apologies!

You said the services offered were good and knew you would be missing some of the things you generally expect.  She provided what she offered and made it very clear what she did not offer and stuck to that.  

An honest review should not hurt her business, but like someone else mentioned, it might actually help because it will show that she provides what she offers and that's what the client can expect from her.  In other words, she is not misleading potential clients.

Knowing what she does not offer, I would not book a date with her.  Those missing services are deal-breakers for me.  I would not want to waste her time, and my time and money hoping for something that was not gonna happen.  There are too many ladies out in hobby-land that offer the services that I want from my date.

Swim

that I do not review every session - and I do not.  I like this lady - I went knowing that in all likelihood this would not be a full GFE session - what surprised me was her personality... she and I talked about a lot of things that are very much of interest to me.  She was also very patient with me.... and in every way wanted to please me, but would not compromise her menu... not a problem with me.  Her looks were not bad either - actually her pictures were as accurate as they could be.... she is pretty, she was energetic and she really did aim to please.  

so my concern was to "do no harm" by writing a review.  

and my appologies for being a bit harsh meself...   I use to teach.... guess I still get a bit upset when someone does not "Get what I am trying to get across"....

For me, no GFE is a deal breaker, no matter even if the looks are a 10.

I hope you don't take offense, but I thought that was a very Gandhi like response to a real troll. You sound like a very sweet lady.

Don't we all want a GFE experience? I mean other wise its just masturbation without using your hand. For me the connection aspect has to be there on some level.

Someone, and I forget who, wrote (I think it was in Cosmo or some other chick mag) "sex is just another form of communication".I have some experience on both sides of the fence and I tend to agree. So... for me to talk I really need someone who will listen (or at least politely pay attention).

For one thing she'd get her contact info posted as a recent provider. Providers seem to love that. And, you'd save her the trouble of explaining her "rules" to any hobbyist who does call her.

Not to mention saving some sorry sucker like me 300 bucks or more.  

We just want them to "act" like it for an hour or two. As you mature (if you mature) and realize why your condoms keep busting you will discover another side of sex that is really good. Mutual pleasure and being the Big Dog that kind of thing.

Wait a few years and your balls will drop.

It sounds to me that going in you knew what you were getting and yet you got more than you expected in way of her charms, her personality and her all around persona. I know you seem to be worried about the "scoring" because it grades higher the more her services aspire. Well sounds like as much as she has surprized you she may have also surprized others and those who are serious and read reviews in full will get the gist of how charming you found her in your review.
I would say, write a review and say what you said here and I don't see how that could do any harm but only help to direct others to her. Even bad publicity is good in the long run. Not to say it would be bad but you get the idea.

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Sounds more like WIFE than GFE

why the anger and hostility?  Not all provide every service imaginable... heck, I've been with one lady with a killer bod who lactates... course she did drug me on at our last get together....

One lady offered to hypnotize me (she is a licensed hypnotist & clinical psychologist).... while another took my cherry wrt anal...

lady - you've nothing to be angry about.... as I said above - READ THE ORIGINAL POST....

I bet you can fuk em up the ASS NO LUBE, huh?

you had nothing but good to say about your time with her, just make sure when you do write the review you say how much you enjoyed her company.

You're gonna be impaled. Gotta luv it! -e