Anyone ever been stood up by a provider or does this behavior only happen in the real world? Last nights date didn't show up after confirming three hours earlier. I got a text at midnight saying sorry I feel asleep with a smile face. We were suppose to meet at 7pm at Cheesecake Factory.  This is why I hate dating civilians.

She left me sitting in a parking lot near her incall for over an hour...NCNS at an incall?

I won't sit at the call point for more than 5 minutes.  It's not discrete & attracts attention of LE & House Dicks.  Yes, early in my hobbying, I recieved the eyeball from a Black & White.  Hotel management had requested extra patrols.  
I prefer to arrive a bit early to allow for traffic or weather delays (got burned by weather once)...  but having confirmed the location, I withdraw to the corner coffee shop where people are expected to hangout...  while carefully timing my return.  

Re: How long have you been seeing escorts ? E

Seeing escorts for about six months in addition to doing a ton of bad dating in the real world. Lately more bad dates with civilians sprinkled in a few escorts between.  

Scoring is not guaranteed in the hobby. I've been turned down more times than most. I got three rejections last week from people coming into NY next week. I'm just moving on. Rejection is part of life but also part of this world.  I can only comment on what I see.  

People can be so rude and inconsiderate.

If not, she is FOS.  

if rejection is part of THIS world for you, I would look internally for the answer. It's not a problem in this world for most of us, so you must be doing something very very wrong.

Whining about it here is pointless.

Even the oldest ugliest fat fart gets laid in P4P.  

Now you do have to get the girl in the room with you, but oddly enough, I have always found money to be a big incentive in accomplishing that. LOL

I thought he was saying he didn't date civies as he could be stood up where as a p4p girl won't, in theory, since she has money on the line.

If so, maybe she just couldn't get that excited about a date to the Cheesecake Factory.  

Whether it is in civilian life, professional, or hobby play, being late and/or NCNS, is just incomprehensible to me. Maybe that is just the German heritage I grew up with. If you say you are going to do something, you do it....at the time you say you are going to do it. Yes, there are the extremely rare moments when weather, traffic, etc get the best of you (I was immediately behind a semi truck full of toxic substances that rolled over in an ice storm here, that kept me on I55 for 5 hours), but that is where good communication comes in. This is just a basic lack of respect, IMHO. I hope you don't bother with her again, and have better luck next time!

I consider myself a professional, and so long as a guy is verifiable and "seems nice", he's in.  

Do you really expect comprehension on here?

...where contact is not possible. Pretty much a unicorn but it can happen. A girl I am VERY close with NCNS me a while back and do you know how I knew she was telling the truth?  

"Anyone ever been stood up by a provider ..... "

I read it as a civi date because of the Cheesecake Factory. Who is going to take a escort on a dinner date there? I can't see spending a few hundred dollars on a dinner date at a chain restaurant. It just doesn't make sense.

but he did go on to mention in a later post in this same thread that he often gets "rejected" even in this world. My question to him and the rest of the peanut gallery is "just how big a loser do you have to be to get consistently rejected by hookers?"

"Fee hour"? What planet are you on again?

I think there is more than enough crazy on the board for everyone to have some.  

The girl who stood me up last night was a girl not in the hobby. I was talking to her thru match.com.  

I recall only one:  Left waiting at a Dunkin Donuts on a blind date.  She probably got a look at me from the outside then split.   Clever ploy to suggest a place that is all glass.

Every dinner date needs to have linens? LOL

It's happened twice to me in addition to the other NCNS I referenced here.

Keep in mind there is a big difference between a "free one hour session" highly unlikely, and a "free hour" added on to a multi hour date.  I can see a woman adding a free hour to a four hour paid date to make up for flaking out on a previous date. I can't see a woman offering a completely free session to make up for a no show though.  

It seems people are getting more disconnected from the real world and the consideration that goes along w it. When your normal method of communicating is txt or social media and it's common for a simple conversation to drag on a day, going hrs between responses it becomes perfectly acceptable to communicate w someone whenever it's easy, not necessarily when you should.  

The less of their disposable income spent at restaurants (where I'll end up ordering something like a salad anyway) means more available to go into my bank account.  It may not go there, but I'd rather Cheesecake Factory than a place that adds hundreds to the donation amount, thus potentially increasing expectation (even subconsciously) without fattening my wallet any further.

Let me know how those free hour requests work out for you ... Think I already know the answer

I’m not a fan. I think this was supposed to be a civvie date, though.  

To some snotty big dollar place, I won't see her. I like the girls that are comfortable enough in her own skin to enjoy a place like the CF.

but I have NEVER had a woman in this business refuse a session with me because "our personalities don't match" Not even once.  

If you look at his reviews you can see he's in the NY NJ area, which is not lacking good restaurants. I've only done one dinner date/overnight so it's not my thing.  

It's not like any leftover money is actually going into my pockets, lol. I'm getting my dinner date fee, no matter where we go.  

They aren't "requests" they are offers from girls who NCNS me.

...who feel the need to impress a hooker.

I love good food, but not all (or even most) dates are about the food. Sometimes a casual setting it preferred. It must suck to only feel comfortable in one world.  

I missed that part where you specified the provider "offers" Good luck with that one as well.

been stood up by providers many times.

Apparently you don't think it is professional for someone to reach out and make it right when they screw over someone. Your entitled to that bizarre opinion certainly.

just got a bbbj in the cheesecake factory parking garage last month on a dinner date.

Most guys have a hobby budget and dining with us is part of that.  The less cash that goes towards things such as expensive restaurants, the more money there is to go into the hobby ecosystem. That's money that could go into another visit, a tip for exemplary service, or a visit to a girlfriend I've recommended.
It's that same reason most of us are grateful for nice gifts, but would always (silently) have preferred the cash.

I see that by his long review and posting history. I have no doubt that he is "legit."
The question is, A legit "what"?
 

The money spent on dinner being pretty much independent of the $$$ spend on the session. They want to take the girl out as part of the experience, and they want it to be the type of place they personally will enjoy. It's not like they'll do a McDonald's (or skip dinner altogether), and spend the money saved on a 1-hour quickie another time.

This thread made me think back on the handful of times I have been to a CK and without exception EVERY time was with a hooker, and every time it was the lady's suggestion.  

...that $225 in the envelope for a full hour.  

Cheesecake Factory and McDonald's are not exactly in the same league. One has higher prices, decent food, and slow waiters.  

Not because of a lack of interest, just because, for most of my life, the closest one was 8 hours away (I think). Then I moved to NYC. Now I live near one, but prefer other venues. Also, I hate cheesecake (not for food snob reasons, just a random dislike) and so the name is a turn-off to me.  

Reading through it made me want to ask an interesting question that I always thought about.

you're not getting played on Match or OKC. If a chick is hot, she gets hit on more every day than any 10 babes on here, and she'll play it to the maxx. The dogs, pardon the term, always show up and don't look like their 15 yo pics ... the hottt ones pick the best place ... they're date whores for the most part. Very little connection, even less sex. Just looking for "dining out, nice wine, and sailing"  

since we'll never know for sure.  (One exception:  One provider had a car accident on her way over to see me.  A few weeks later when we did meet, the veracity of her excuse was borne out by the bruises on her leg.)

interesting and intelligent posters on the board imho.  
Always well thought out, we'll written and on point.
I need to take a lesson.

nice restaurants, is that you really don't need to bang on a full stomach. The portions are smaller (but, they are so tasty you really don't notice).  

It can be 100% true or false so the reason becomes irrelevant, therefore no reason at all is the best way to go (IMO).

So the first thing I learned was how to eat just about anything as unlike the kids on Master Chef Junior, I was hardly an accomplished cook at that age. Fast forward almost fifty years and I can still eat just about anything, but as my cooking skills have improved, so has my palate and I MUCH prefer good food over the slop served at most chain restaurants.

dont' care if you lie to me, just lie to me enough time before the date you're breaking so i don't waste (a) my time (b) an uber ride to your place (c) a $40 viagra pill.

I've actually eaten there multiple times. It's in the strip mall right next where I get my car serviced. The BBQ Something Salad is actually OK.  

That's the bad news.  The good news is I won't be charging for my time.  My policy is if I like you, dinner's on you but it's OTC.  One thing's for sure, you won't be taking me within a mile of an Olive Garden or the CF.  Homey don't play dat.
I'm assuming you know what Per Se is.  If not, google is your friend.

And I love cheesecake.

You are a breath of fresh air...and along with Afro-desiac....both a wonderful addition to the board. Add long timer VOO-doo and you guys make this board worth visiting.

i fucking posted her name and she blacklisted me  

Happens to he best of us sweetie

brush it off and keep on searching

6!!! 6 FUCKING times I've been stood-up by Liz - a provider whom I reviewed. At least I pounded that pussy until no tomorrow -several times. Many, many CIM/SWALLOW blowjobs and pounded it ANAL.