Just ran across this breaking good news, though I'm quite certain I heard it from LG first. Though no problems yet, I choose this medicine over a prescription.

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defines sexual activity.  I have a lot of sex but I'm usually the only one involved unless you can count my very creative imagination.  If there has to be an actual sexual partner well I better keep exercising, keep that blood pressure under control and stay in good health to reduce my risk factors in other ways.

I'm not certain about the study, but if I remember LG's remarks accurately, what is helpful is any type of sexual activity that produces an orgasmic release, which is within one's means. I guess that covers solo, 1 on 1, multi-partner or group orgy sex. Better to not let the ebbs and flows of personal means prevent us from a good healthy release.

I seriously doubt there was any serious inquiry what circumstances the ED boys lived in, versus the non-ED ones.  If for no other reason, how does a scientist quantify 'homely as a mile of dirt road' versus 'hot enough to pull the skin off your eyelids'?  

IOW, I wouldn't bet a whole lot that the incentives are close to equal.  D'oh!

I see nothing in the story regarding several related and very serious health issues that can cause ED regardless of how often you have sex. High Blood Pressure, Diabetes and Heart Disease can contribute to ED at any age. I'm sure there is a connection in the "use it or lose it" department somewhere but lets not all start ignoring serious health issues over an info blurb on Yahoo.

Good point. I guess we would have to read the whole journal article the the American Journal of Medicine to see how they accounted for those issues. In the mean time I'll just use it as further ammo when my SO questions if we should be having sex so often.

Don't listen to him. If there is a study that says more sex is good for you I believe it. If there is any evidence to the contrary, I don't want to hear it. My mind is made up, I don't want to hear anything else on the subject.

lalalalalala I can't hear you. lol

and I gather as much evidence as I can find to support them. I'm certain I'm the only one to do so. (snicker).

GaGambler has my vote!

Since it a published study in a medical journal we can assume it was peer reviewed before it was approved for publication.  They usually use statistical methods to account for differences in the subjects on the variables you mentioned so they should be accounted for.

I do admit however I do cringe when newspapers, TV and the Internet imply something is the truth just because it was in a study. They print their article because it has a cacthy theme like this one, ie sex  In reality studies have to be replicated before they have any credibility.  We do not know if this was one of many studies in this area or the first look at this particular variable.

However I can tell GAGambler and these guys do not want to hear any of this  So lets just conclude the more sex the better!

My issue also has more to do with the way Yahoo and other internet services choose to report their "news" than it does with the study. I'm sure the study itself was a lot more thorough.

The problem I have is that a large part of the population ONLY get their information from these internet sites. Every time a 20 something guy shows up her asking about taking ED meds to improve his performance it becomes painfully clear to me that a huge segment of the population has no clue about what may be going on inside their bodies.

Hey, Sex is good. More sex is better! Sex does not cure heart disease or diabetes however.  If a guy is having trouble getting an erection and decides to "self-medicate" by jerking-off three times a day and seeing two or three escorts a week he will be having a lot of fun but he won't be taking care of the root problem...

Anyway, I have ED but I have also found the cure...My ATF!!!  Time to book an appointment!

money to be made, MDs are as big whores as the rest of us.

Do you really think they even tried to quabtify the various social issues that make Joe Average go hard or soft?  Can you quantify it?  Most likely, it's all intuitive - that is, we know some things that make us hard, but can't describe it exactly.  If you can't, how could you report it to a surveyor?

The very hypothesis suggests it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, or an identity, ie, people who have more sex, have more sex.

No shit, sherlock.

Although the article does not cite how those variables actually factored into the study, it does mention them as factors...

'...A number of factors contribute to ED development, many of which could also affect a man's sexually activity -- such as age, diabetes and heart disease. However, after taking account of those factors, sexual activity itself remained linked to ED risk, Koskimaki's team found.'



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I have a roomie out on the east coast this summer (where I am for this school internship) who has a bf who is 22 and suffers from ED. He can't get it up at all. When she attempts bbbj he starts getting hard, but the second she tries to hop on, it goes way way down. She's hot, too, so it's not a physical thing, but damned if she's not confused as hell about it.

We keep trying to see if we can steal some viagra from a nearby hobbyist I know. lol.

Katie

Wow! One seldom hears of a guy that young with ED. What comes to mind immediately, without knowing his history is, maybe she's too hot. Meaning, he may have low self-esteem and can't believe she could see anything in him. Again, just my hair-trigger imagination at work.

Hope your internship is going well, and miss you back here on the left coast.

Actually you have a pretty good working hypothesis. Most perfomance issues are psychological in nature and not true ed. Obviously as we get older and/or have medical problems already discussed ed is a very real issue.I actually do not know the incidence of true ed in men in their 20's and will have to do the google thing out of curiosity to find out. It would be interesting to know if this young man has erections in his sleep or if he wakes up hard. If he can uh take matters into his own hands easily enough that is another clue that this is really performance anxiety. I of course have only read about such things and have never experienced performance anxiety Oh and as Boston Guy alluded to I doubt if taking Viagara is a good idea for someone in their 20's if he does not have ed. He would just need to learn to relax and let nature take its course.

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This is exactly the sort of thing I am talking about.  He wouldn't be the first young guy to have what could possibly be a hereditary physical condition that is causing the problem. Yes, it is also possible that it is psychological but why not eliminate the possibility of a serious ailment and move ahead from there?

But it was a perfunctory acknowledgment at best and there was nothing in the article that actually says what the connections are-or that these complications can kill you if they are ignored in favor of just screwing more often.  Again, to reiterate, the actual study is most likely a very complete and thorough work but what Yahoo chooses to print is a tabloid version that is intended to hit us at our lowest common denominator-sex. Obviously it worked.

The vast majority of cases like this are, I believe, performance anxiety but the first thing to do is to see a medical doctor to make sure it is not a  serious physical condition causing the problem.

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The medical bases always need to be covered first before looking into possible mental considerations. I guess I was putting myself in his shoes, and if I had the problem on going, I would have seen the doc. by now.  However, I could imagine a guy being too mortified to bring the issue up, and hoping the whole problem would somehow magically go away.

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