Licensed professionals should be wary of problems with their licensure when bartering services or having sexual relations with current clients. It is better to keep those relations at "arms length". I actually have an 11-foot pole in my garage - that is for activities I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole!
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Response - Anon_1c1ab5 on 07/04/03 11:34 PM
Hey 155, ASSUMING that you really are a physician (and you SOUND like someone's adolescent son with one hand in his pants), where were you when your medical school taught Ethics 101?
Touch a patient on ANY basis, genius, in ANY state, at ANY time (including YEARS after the physician-patient relationship ended), and your medical licensure is HISTORY! Hope you didn't detumesce too rapidly with that one, pal.
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Response - Anon_155fa4 on 07/04/03 11:40 PM (aka HotOffLoad)
Actually 1c1 (or should I say Stephen Katz - your anonymity is blown since you posted this identical response in another specialty forum), except for psychiatrists, a physician CAN have a sexual or romantic relationship with a former patient as long as a doctor-patient relationship does not exist at the time the personal relationship begins. Also a "reasonable" interval of time must elapse between the end of the professional relationship and the beginning of the personal relationship depending upon the specific circumstances of the doctor-patient relationship. The burden is always on the physician in these situations to prove his case if charges of "unprofessional conduct" are brought against him.
But wait! I forgot! I'm an adolescent!! Hey 1c! You need to trade in your "sourpuss" attitude for some sweet pussy -
it'll do wonders for you!
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Response - Anon_150e916 on 07/04/03 11:42 AM
Anon_e0f336 you seriously need to get laid
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Response - Anon_155fa4 on 07/05/03 12:08 AM (aka HotOffLoad)
BTW - you all are a smart group of docs I'll bet if you put your "heads" together you could come up with a barter system that wouldn't involve porking your patient! These gorgeous ladies have equally gorgeous friends, you know! Also did you know that adult escorts are called "providers" - just like doctors!
And while we are on the subject, you might check out www.theeroticreview.com and go to the discussion groups - these horney guys and gals are a lot more civil and courteous and infinitely more intelligent that the "trash-talking"
"providers" on POL (IMHO)
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/04/03 09:46 AM
Tell me, how would you define "malpractice" in this context?????
Barry
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Response - Anon_94bc37 on 07/04/03 01:37 PM
Pandering on the net.
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Response - Anon_2a505a on 07/04/03 09:09 PM
So....you lose weight and are no longer so embarrassed by your appearance that you are now "free" to get sexed up by your local hookers. Any you are SO happy that you now want to become the equivalent of a madam. Perhaps you'd get a "referral" fee or be a pimp. Or... maybe this is just a way to figure out how
YOU can get sex without PAYING. Maybe you could just ASK guys that DON'T have to pay for sex how they do it!!
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Response - Anon_155fa4 on 07/04/03 10:36 PM
Hey eof! I'll have you know I NEVER have an escort before noon and I can quit ANY TIME I WANT! (lol)
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/05/03 09:17 AM
If exercise, with its endorphins, becomes a drug then at least it is healthy and legal. Endorphins are structurally close to opiates anyway. At least it is naturally produced and a good reward feedback. Lets forget about the IRS argument for a moment.
As was posted in your thread in Adult medicine it is illegal to touch anybody who has been your pt even 20 yrs earlier. And what do you do if you make a mistake? How do you define malpractice? 155. what do you think a Judge would think if this gal tells him how you barter you sacred medical obligations for a little nookie?
Tell you what. Why don't you ask your medmal carrier-anonymously of course-what your liabilities are?
I am beginning to agree with e0f that this is the son of a doc who is using his password. Only adolescents could be that sophomoric.
Barry
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/05/03 09:19 AM
And BTW I will be married 29 years this Sept. so please don't tell me I need to get laid. I have sons that are probably older than you.
Barry
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Response - Anon_e0f336 on 07/05/03 10:57 AM
LOL 155
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Response - Anon_e0f336 on 07/05/03 10:59 AM
Barry. Actually that was Paul Roda that said that.
I remember when these posts referred to a weight loss method. It was intersting.
Not for me personally but losing weight is so hard that if someone used getting laid to do it successfully, more power to him I think this guy is legit but his brain is addled.
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/05/03 11:09 AM
So how much extra endorphins does sex create?
"Oh sweetheart look at this new study about sex and obesity and your heart". I can see it now.
Barry
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Response - Kirill Rikher on 07/05/03 11:16 AM
Depends on the # of beers, quality of escort, personal preferences (waist-to bust ratio, trochanter to ankle lenght etc.).
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Response - Anon_1ed0fc6 on 07/05/03 12:28 PM
At least you wouldn't have to wait for your nurse to do a pelvic exam!
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Response - Anon_1fadc3b on 07/05/03 03:21 PM
Changing the oil in your wife's car is considered working for "love and affection" not bartering. Just ask my grandmother who was unable to get her SS benefits since she and her husband didn't want to pay taxes on the work she did (and thus money she received) in their mostly cash business. Your arguement is
really feminist - that married women are actually trading sex for support from husband!
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/05/03 08:40 PM
You know, in light of 1ed's comment, when I rotated through GYN I think every woman in Brooklyn either was pregnant or had an STD. I'm not sure that would whet my sexual appetite going-as they say-tit for tat or is it dat or pat or mat. ENUF!!!!!!!
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Response - H. Barry Miller on 07/05/03 09:07 PM
Well, Christ at least I wish she would keep up HER end of the contract by keeping up MY front of the contract. Did I say that right? I'm still thinking of ankle to trochanter ratios......
Barry
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...I know of several providers who avail themselves of it.
I wonder if "Medical Deities" would rather pay the tab for a full-time mistress (a "control" issue or ego issue?), completely disregarding any forethought of what happens when they want to dump her.
According to my peers, I am the deranged, sophomoric, lunatic (with my hands in my pants and pimples on my face!), and not all equipped to answer your question!!
CPA's, MD's and most recently lawyers who barter their professional services for sex with clients are subject to loss of license and other legal punishments in many states. In addition if you are a CPA or attorney that signs tax returns for a provider that you see on a frequent basis you could be opening yourself up for potential problems with the IRS and State Taxing authorities.
Licensed professionals should be wary of problems with their licensure when bartering services or having sexual relations with current clients. It is better to keep those relations at "arms length". I actually have an 11-foot pole in my garage - that is for activities I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole!
Ahh, it's great to be in the car business, as we are not considered "Professionals" and can barter or due as we dang well please. For some it's a tax free way of getting what we want, I am sure that I would personally report whatever I do to the IRS. Right? Good luck to all.
Actually, with our wives we are bartering all the time - "take out the garbage - buy me x, let's go y. Can u do me this favour
Isn't bartering wonderful