Yes, It is business.

Lets break it down one by one.
#1 . if you want a 30 min appt I have no problem with that.. I do wonder about ladies that do 30 min appointments without knowing the gentleman first.. but that is her business not mine. I even understand the drive to save a few bucks on his part.

#2 There are girls everywhere. I even understand this one. I am appreciative of the gentlemen that fly to see me and to those that drive distance. Some have a rule of not playing in their own back yards..

#3 Never repeat? Well how would the genius who posted this have a clue as to her wide menu of options is in just 30 min? Sounds to me like he wants to purchase a Lexus for the price of a Moped.

#4 see number 3. and here I sit thinking he is a cheap @@@@@ with little or no consideration for others.. ( Not a trait that is becoming of a gentlman) I wonder  how he defines dignity.. " It must be all about him"

#5 In my world, It usually works the other way around.. There is not a clock in the room and if we linger longer which usually happens. It is a bonus.  My conclusion to his delima is he must be such an ass that the ladies think they can stomach 30 min with him and figure out He just is not worth the time and the hastle and he has been asked to leave..( checking dignity at the door)

#6 Asking for a refund.. yeah right! keep dreaming.... I have given full refunds. but never in the case of a client being unhappy.

#7. An 8 to you might be a 4 to someone else.




#6

Before I continue, please do not make statements that BP providers are of lower quality. I c all providers, including providers that post on TER, Eros, agencies, CityVibe, and everything in between. I am starting fresh this upcoming year with a few guidelines that I like follow.

These guildlines will be for the majority of providers after I have: research her, check her reviews, and use tinyeye. These r the rules I must follow to better myself for BP providers, feel free to add to any, and I will be taking notes and saving them.

                                                      Guidelines for BP providers

1) Always book 30 min sessions, even if they look good: you never know how the event will unfold. So, its better to save the money than to spend the money.

2) Limit driving distance to 30 mins: wait throughout the day for better options and availability. Its better knowing if the experience is lack-luster, its not going to take an hour to drive back.

3) Never repeat: unless, she has a wide GFE menu, and she performed on a 9-10 scale on your last review of her.

4) Always save money despite the urge: better to save $120-$150 for a 30 min session than spending it and feeling worse after the session. Dignity is important, you want to feel better after a session, not feel worse[r].

5) Always make sure there is a visible clock in the room: have provider acknowledge and agree on time. This eliminates the miscommunication and reinforce your donation.

6) Ask for a refund if you did not spend your full time: if you paid 60 mins, you r entitled to 60 mins, and not 30 mins. This method should be applied to new and repeat providers. Also, this #6 pertains to #5 as both are reinforce each other.

7) Try selecting a provider that is on the physical appearance scale of 8: this helps with the MSOG process.

These r my 2012 new year resolution for BP providers only. I sometimes work on impulses and urges and I need these guidelines to help better myself. I have already saved these guidelines on my iphone under notes for proper viewing before seeing a BP provider.

Please, feel free to add, add to a different site such as Eros (but title it properly), comment, question, and disapprove. Please note, I will be taking notes and saving them from valuable feedback that I deem necessary. Thanks!

I've never seen a lady from BP. It was always from here and/or P411 or a buddy turned me on. Then of course I still had to do the screening deal, but it was easy considering who spoke up for me. Did it myself, a time or two.  

I see a lot of guys bashing the hell out of BP, and to tell the truth some of the ladies I want to see you won't find on there.

I go thru it for kicks, and having a keen eye think to myself when I see a certain ad 'Shit! Your name was Suzy-cums-alot last weekend! WTF?'

Admittedly I let you guys go thru the trials and tribulations. Maybe I'm sadistic and take pleasure in seeing you crash and burn? Or I'm just too lazy to actually TOFTT with some lady that chances are could be a ROB, LE or less than what I require in a paid date.

In any case, I'm just not that horny to take that sort of chance.

Guess I'm smart enough to let you do that for me.

But what I really disgree with is 6).  Refund?  You've got to be joking.  Once you give her the money, you've contracted for a certain amount of time.  Be sure you get it (or close to it).  Asking for money back is not only rude, it just won't work.

Only see ladies who do not verify references or  one who thinks very little of herself..
( The above rule will allow you to continue your behavior and not subject yourself to a real woman who if given the opportunity and was asked to give you a good reference I am certain she would tell the next provider what a first class A@@ you really are)

Aren’t you providers the one’s telling us this is pure business deal? I didn’t see anything in OP’s post not within the guidelines established business practices. Take one step further, it is also within the “Fair Commerce/trade” regulation of the US.

You may want to check and see that the so called “Angels are not so angels”, “out of the ordinary is below ordinary” shall I continue?

Of course, you are none of that but an angel and out of the ordinary, correct?

"call the Make a Wish foundation".

You may want to ad one more to your list make sure it is not an obvious bait and switch. saw this post on my home board. Girl had brunette hair and D size titties yet her discription said she had blonde hair and B size titties.

When guys talk shit about BP providers it's just a negative stereotype. Usually, they are referring to the "BP only advertisers" who have no reviews, don't advertise anywhere else, and certainly don't have personal websites like yourself. Don't take everything so personal ... who cares what the OP does anyway?

You have to be smoking crack, if you think a provider is going to give you a refund. If you pay her for 60mins, you first ask her if it's only "one pop" for the hour.

If you know you're going to come with in 30mins then, only pay for 30mins.

Asking a provider for making is only going to create,

A significant percentage are scammers and robs and leftovers from CL. I've personally been to bait and switch sessions or vastly older or grossly overweight women claiming to be the "girl" in the picture. Sure, a few of them are true as they work their way up to CV or rather stay as UTR and just work on netting a few regulars. Though some haven't learned not to skimp on time. I saw a BP lady for an hour rate and she got up to leave after 40 min. No seconds, not even cuddle or talk time.

Mr. Ronald McDonald ZERO TIMES THREE,

If you have to make a New Years Resolution regarding BP Providers, well, I will take note of that and never see you.  This isn't a derogatory statement towards those that are, it's derogatory towards you.  

Who the hell do you think you are ?  I'd love to see your photos and inspect them on tinyeye.  You got any reviews?  What if the lady doesn't offer 30min sessions?  Guess you aren't booking them.  Oh, and the "never repeat" is classic because you are doing THEM a fan-fucking-tastic favor.  Believe me.  

You are a jackass and an insult to any provider.  Why don't you just take your ass to the streets and try your refund bullshit there?  

Let me know how it goes and in the meantime, spare us.  

What did the little birdy say when he flew over KMart?   "Cheap, cheap, cheap!!!!"  IE: YOU.  PS:  NO REFUNDS WITHOUT A RECEIPT.

Eat a dick-
Ashley Jade

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There is too much generalization going on here, which I don't agree with or care for. Personally, I don't 30 minute, never have done it and don't believe ever will. It is belittling in my mind (I said my mind). I have range I stick to also.

The point I am trying to make is that the OP has a right to his opinion and his preferences, doesn't need to attack him/her. Most of these attacks taking place here is based on personal experiences, customary activities in a specific town, city, region, etc. Nothing ubiquitous about this hobby whatsoever with regards, men, women, what is and is not on the menu, etc., which make many assumptions end up making an ass out of you and me.

I think I love you!!!! J/K. But I am getting very aroused :-P

Only 30 mins, asking for a clock, in short treating them like a thrill ride and not women. Yes you should demand professionalism but at the same time these ladies are women not blow up dolls.

Want to get more out of your dates? Treat them with respect and not a punch card on a check in clock. Spend a minute or two talking before stripping, bring cold water in a factory sealed bottle to drink in between rounds, don't push her boundaries, and respect her time by showing up on time and leaving on time. After a few visits things will really open up for you and many of them will rock your world.

Your resolutions will leave you the john they all complain about and never getting the most of your dates, BP or not.

Photo from sexasian18.com from Jessica Kizaki

instead of trying to give hobby advice.

And how come I always get this craving for a big mac whenever I read his posts. lol

Seriously, what's the deal with everyone dumping on BP girls?   How exactly does a new provider break into the business?  It's not as if there's a trade school with job placement for this kind of thing.  In most instances she breaks in by posting an ad on BP, eventually finding out about sites such as this one and expanding her business accordingly.  Stop throwing the baby out with the bath water and give these ladies a break.

Choosing a lady from BP is like choosing an automobile from the classifieds; you can scan the ad for certain buzz words and ascertain the quality of the product.  My BP/car ad rules are simple.  

1.  I avoid providers and cars with the following phrases in their ads:  as is, no warranty, mechanic's special, available 24/7, $50 special, no title, has no pics, atrocious spelling and grammar.

2.  I go for the providers and cars with the following phrases in their ads:  low miles, low volume, gas saver, well reviewed, carfax report available, maintenance records available, datecheck or p411 verified.

3.  Absent a website, any reviews or a board presence I get a feel for what kind of person she is by the conversation we have when I call her.  You can tell a lot about a person by talking to them on the phone.  

4.  If I do decide to take the plunge on an unreviewed lady, like the OP, I always book the shortest time increment available.  I ain't dropping 300 for an hour if I have no idea what to expect but I will drop 100-150 for a half hour first meeting and repeat for a longer time if we hit it off.  

5.  If the service is good I write a review, tell her I wrote a review, tell her about review sites and suggest that she put her TER ID in future ads.  I have a few reviews of ladies for whom I am the only reviewer.  These were previously unreviewed BP girls.  With any luck 1 review will turn into 2 then 3 then 10 and beyond.

6.  I ask questions afterward.  Obviously I can't sample the entire menu in 30 min so afterward I ask do you like girls, do you allow anal, do you like to play with toys etc.  That way I have a better idea of what to expect during future longer visits.

It aint fool proof.  Nothing ever is, but it works for me.

Not to belabor the issue, but I really really don't understand the stigmatization of BP girls on the part of hobbyists.  I completely understand it on the part of providers; that's their competition.  McDonald's is never happy when Burger King sets up shop across the street so they sure as hell ain't happy when Subway, KFC, Pizza Hut and a hot dog stand set up also.  It cuts into their bottom line.  

Kinda went off on a tangent here but I guess this was less a response to the OP and more of a response to the "I don't see BP girls" crowd.


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Thank you! I knew you'd get a kick out of this!

Have a wonderful weekend gorgeous!

Mikey

But don't trust me. Go to Vegas and find out for yourself!

Just don't be a cheap, dumbass SOB like Ol' McDonald here...

Two hours minimum. Oh yeah!

You'll be hurtin' for certain and asking me for my physical address to send me a bottle of my choice...

I appreciate all of your feedback. As always incivility is a common practice amongst these boards, and I turn the other cheek. What I do in my business is my own business, I do not need to be ridiculed or scrutinized for it. Again, thank you all for your feedback.

Some clarifications: As I originally posted, I see all types of girls; ads on TER, Eros, Agencies, and BP. There is a stigma about BP providers, and my experience have reinforce these stigmas. These r the steps that I find necessary to take for BP providers. Please, save your negativity for my later threads. For example, if I see a TER ad provider, I can immediately read her reviews, and determine the type of service she will provide. I can also determine the type of expectations I will have. As a result, I do not have to take these BP guidelines for TER ad providers.

I wish I can be more relaxed about seeing BP providers as with TER ad providers, but that is not always the case. I do not discriminate on taste, and I do not always have the time to arrange future appointments. Sometimes, I just have to get it done.

For all of the high-end providers that disapproved my guidelines, its perfectly fine, you all have your opinion. Your situations r different from BP providers, so you cannot relate to their services, attitudes, expectations, and professionalism.

More than half of my reviews are TOFTT and all are within 1 year, and I enjoy it. I do not have to settle for anything and wait. I enjoy my life. When I do find a gem in the rough's, I write a mini about it, and that is beneficial to the community.

Again, these r just my guidelines, every1 is different. Please save the ridicule and incivility if you can relate. If you can't relate, please save your negative comments to yourself. Thanks!

guys just don't realize the differences in the roles providers and hobbyists have.  

We have examined your website, read many of your reviews, and have decided to spend time (and our cash) with you.  You as a provider, only know about us what we have told you.  The only exceptions are if, in verifying us, a provider we have seen has said certain things about us or maybe we did meet at a M & G and you know what we look like and how we act.

She is on my bucket list with a number of other Vegas beauties. The old saying "So many women so little time" sure does apply for me. I also never book less then 2 hrs. I like to take my time and get to know all the secret spots that drive each lady wild. Plus I like to have a date for the shows when I go to them. Nothing  better then a beautiful woman turning heads when she is walking by your side. No problem on your favorite bottle.

Well I guess your just going to have to find a way to share her with me.

Sex is sex and if you seek out something fast and CHEAP. I understand that not every guy out here can afford to toss big C-notes or stay 1hr,2hr,4hr,or longer. Though many girls are complaining about the request for 1/2hours in e-mails. Its best that you target the FILTHY street walker's or go for the Legal brothels if they offer such a Quick meal?. No respectable Call Girl should engage in QUICKIES because it sink's our reputation and you will attract a lower class client!! Street walker's have no desire to turn down a potential date nor the drive thru offers. Unless the guy is a cop,potential serial killer{especially if a local street walker has gone missing} or another street pimp trying to lure a popular curb girl into his flock. The CBS specials are mainly for street walker's creeping on the net because the local cops have made it difficult for them. To score business in seedy areas of town or commercial business owners are complaining about rubbers near their place of business. There is a reason why men pay for sex,there is also a reason why REAL men avoid street walkers. Any man who pays at 250,350,400,500,800,1k,2-5k for a lady wants quality,cleanliness and discretion. Society tends to lump all sex worker's in the same catalog and there is a hierarchy amongst us. For all of the men who favor QUICKIES,encounter's under the 3omins,15mins there are  plenty of ladies in TJ that you could frequent for  those insulting rates.

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Backpage?
In Birmingham?

Yeah..you getting robbed.