Have you ever been with a civie, she's gotten you going with her mouth, she says she wants you to do her from behind...you think AWESOME, she bends over and the smell of awful ass fills your nose and you immediately go limp. And she asks you what's wrong but you don't have the heart to tell her your ass reeks. My god girls watch the same movies we do. That whole line about "let me freshen up" BRFORE SEX isn't so she can alphabetized her medicine cabinet.  It's to hand her business front and back. I mean my goD if I were going to basically shove my ass under someone's face I'd know to clean it up and I'm not talking about just wiping with toilet paper. That means soap and water or baby wipes.

Thankfully I've never had this happen with a provider. Maybe that's part of the shock when it happens outside the hobby.  I just think "really? Did you just shart and think it would smell like vanilla back here?"

Just thought I'd share that, and interested to know if you've experienced this and how you handled it?  As for me I tell the girl I just realized that I left my daughter at the laundromat and leave.

Drunken Civie girls

I worked in a bar for many years. I worked every job, and saw everything.
Women can be really nasty! Worse than guys.
Put it this way.
When it's your job to keep the bathrooms working.
You will spend all night in the ladies room.
Hey guys piss all over the place fine.
But girls will shit on the floor! Clog the bowl with god knows what.
Fucking toilet paper everywhere! Soggy makeup, and panties in the garbage.
Deny it all you want ladies. There are some nasty ones out there.
I still love ya ladies!

at a local pub...I was fucking horrified at the condition of the ladies room on busy nights.

nasty...just nasty.

When I was a manager at a big box store, the porter showed me the women's bathroom on several occasions where it looked like Dexter Morgan's blood splatter testing room at Miami PD. No exaggeration!

Had that exact situation happen to me a few weeks ago. Made up some shit about the seafood from dinner not mixing well with the scotch and got the hell out. First time I can remember running out on civie sex. Just couldn't take the smell and didn't have the heart to say "could you please go wash your ass?!?" NEVER had that problem with a provider.

Hate to say it, but it's that very reason I don't like doggy...had to smell butt one too many times with the civvies back in the day and now I've completely lost my taste for the position no matter how clean a girl is. Just can't get past it any more.

I have to agree.  I've never had a SO or even a casual hook up gross me out because of hygiene re. the back door.  

Maybe once you're in the hobby a while, you expect perfection in terms of being squeaky clean.  When I'm into someone, I like the smell of "them."  Not nasty BO or crap smell, but their natural smell.  Sweaty women after a workout that don't smell only like perfume or soap turn me on big time.  

That said, it doesn't take but 2 minutes to run into the bathroom and do a "smell" check before chucking your clothes with a lady you may have just met that night.  LOL

Be very careful after dinners, too.  A friend of mine made the observation that when the check comes and the girl goes to the bathroom, she might very well be taking a dump.  That's one of the few times she can get away and do it on the date, especially if she is spending the night.

So if you're having post-dinner sex, might wanna shower first and make sure you scrub the plumbing well.

LMFAO @ this. That would have to be one quick crap! If I was the guy I would start to wonder where the hell she went.

On a civvie date, the girls use this as a time to let us pay the bill in private, and they use that time to "freshen up."

If you've been single as long as I have...well, you know the game.

This is why I go to gay bars and use the men's washroom.