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PTSD
mrfisher 115 Reviews 252 reads
posted
1 / 24

Are you implying that either a provider or a hobbyist could have had such a horrifying experience in the hobby (for example, being raped or beaten) that they could suffer PTSD as a result?

Or are you asking of providers or hobbyists with PTSD (from say, serving in an active war zone) find that it affects how they hobby?

Or either?

Priapus53 176 reads
posted
2 / 24

if that's the case, the link below would be helpful.

I guess the following would have some label me an obnoxious asshole, ( not the 1st time--LOL ) but, this brings up a previous OP about how some threads are simply not clearly written.

mattradd 40 Reviews 150 reads
posted
3 / 24
mattradd 40 Reviews 173 reads
posted
4 / 24

can be an underlying reason why a person would go "postal," but not the only reason. Not criticizing you, but PTSD has a very discrete meaning, though many use it in more general terms referring to extreme distress. However, for the purpose of being clear, it's helpful to be more descriptive of what you're meaning vs. using terms that can be received in a wide range of meaning.

I do think, both providers and hobbyists can have the trauma's, in their past, that can effect their behavior. I think tonguelover6969 gave a good place to start those seeking help. A much better alternative than using alcohol and drugs, which many of those sufferers do.

SlowDay 1466 reads
posted
5 / 24

I was waiting for a "SlowDay" to bring this up, post traumatic stress disorder, in the hobby world. Do you think it has relevance here?(I do) I think it would be more realistic for a provider to experience this, but I believe the same could be true for the hobbyist as well especialy if your emotions get in the way. Remember be true to your self when you answer this(not all) but many around here lie to themselves(one way of coping) with this issue....aliases are more then welcome....or if you think I sound like a giant pussy feel free to coment, I can take it.

mattradd 40 Reviews 145 reads
posted
6 / 24

PTSD is typically brought about by discrete episodes of severe trauma. Many personality disorders are brought about by long-term moderate ambient trauma, usually experienced in childhood. I've lost track of the symptoms you were were referring to, but avoidant personality disorder often times has it's origins in an insecure avoidant attachment of the child to its mother. Another way of thinking about it is that the child never made it through the life-cycle stage of trust vs. mistrust. Of course both explanations describe developmental issues that are concurrently experienced within the individual.

ZiggyFreud 201 reads
posted
7 / 24

the same symptoms that apply to prolonged exposure to war, can apply to horrible single incidents like rape, home invasion, bad car accidents, etc.  Or prolonged child abuse.  How does this apply to the hobby?  Excitement from the threat of LE, heightened, sexually charged atmosphere, threat of being ripped off, etc.  On the pussy side of things, when I'm feeling particularly alienated, it makes for shitty sessions.

tonguelover6969 17 Reviews 241 reads
posted
8 / 24

At least one of the drugs used to treat PTSD, Anafranil or Cilompramine, can interfere with climax.  The result is that as more troops come home and get this treatment, providers may see more and more guys who can't get off for several hours of vigorous effort.  I have had some providers get upset when I can't cum for them, others just refuse to quit till the job is done and the goal achieved.

Denial is prevalent among PTSD sufferers, at least in the Vietnam War generation.  I hadn't heard of this treatment till a friend who was a Korea vet mentioned it, and he had gone at least 45 years without any effective treatment.

You may well be a giant pussy, but aren't we all at some time or another?  When the docs try to fix something, but don't have much effect on your symptoms, it gets harder to go back to them for a solution and easier to just try to believe that we need to push our feelings aside.

MP67 11 Reviews 186 reads
posted
9 / 24
SlowDay 221 reads
posted
10 / 24

I was trying to ask about the prolonged effects of hobby life, guess I should of mentioned that.

Posted By: mrfisher
Are you implying that either a provider or a hobbyist could have had such a horrifying experience in the hobby (for example, being raped or beaten) that they could suffer PTSD as a result?

Or are you asking of providers or hobbyists with PTSD (from say, serving in an active war zone) find that it affects how they hobby?

Or either?

inicky46 61 Reviews 208 reads
posted
11 / 24
SlowDay 189 reads
posted
12 / 24

PTSD dosen't always involve combat situations what about (going postal), I wouldn't say that would not be a result of a traumatic event, but the build up of stress. There is probably a better defenition that could have been used. Some (not all) providers come from , physically, sexualy, and emotionaly abusive home lives and relationships. That would fall under the defenition of a traumatic event. and the hobby life could very well feed in to that, and bring on PTSD.

Posted By: Priapus53
if that's the case, the link below would be helpful.

I guess the following would have some label me an obnoxious asshole, ( not the 1st time--LOL ) but, this brings up a previous OP about how some threads are simply not clearly written.

SlowDay 171 reads
posted
13 / 24

LOL  I was asking for it, at first it looked like you said I was against pussy.

Posted By: MP67
So I say, bend over Rover, and let Mikey take over! lol!!!

SlowDay 147 reads
posted
14 / 24

...as to what I was talking about. I'm a burnout and have experienced burnout on the job "It's better to burnout than to fade away" they were looking for a train wreck.

SlowDay 149 reads
posted
15 / 24

I would agree thanks tonguelover6969, I at least learend something from this.

hotplants 189 reads
posted
16 / 24

Although, I have always wanted to see one of those things….;)

I do think you may be unclear on what PSTD means.

PTSD is a result of some kind of very traumatic experience. As has been mentioned, possibly sexual assault, live combat situation in the military, prolonged emotional/physical abuse….

Not sure what you mean, specifically, by ‘emotions getting in the way’. But, assuming you mean someone has allowed himself to become emotionally attached to a provider----as in the ubiquitous “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” syndrome? This may indicate a problem defining personal boundaries…..perhaps.

This is quite different than developing PTSD.


pleasureglans 17 Reviews 166 reads
posted
17 / 24

I have to agree with the above post.

PTSD is the result of severe stress-inducing experiences like the ones mentioned such as combat, sexual assault, etc.

Getting emotionally involved with a provider and having a broken heart when she doesn't return the affection does not constitute PTSD. To you, it might have been the experience of a life time, to the provider, it was just another spectacular performance....one of many on her list. Put it in perspective and move on to the next spectacular performance.

SlowDay 133 reads
posted
18 / 24

I always maintain perspective, I was saying some one could get caught up in the fantacy, and not realize it is only fantacy.

SlowDay 148 reads
posted
19 / 24

I do see these symptons in some providers. Maybe what I see has yet to be diagnosed. There will be alot more retiered providers than there are now. This will become an issue, I believe it will.

madiba51 141 reads
posted
20 / 24

it will probably be helpful to you if you make a call to a therapist and schedule an appointment.

Self-diagnosis is likely to be mistaken.  Let a person who is qualified do the diagnosis, then determine if they are a person who you can work effectively with in a partnership.  

Posted By: SlowDay
I was waiting for a "SlowDay" to bring this up, post traumatic stress disorder, in the hobby world. Do you think it has relevance here?(I do) I think it would be more realistic for a provider to experience this, but I believe the same could be true for the hobbyist as well especialy if your emotions get in the way. Remember be true to your self when you answer this(not all) but many around here lie to themselves(one way of coping) with this issue....aliases are more then welcome....or if you think I sound like a giant pussy feel free to coment, I can take it.

Knowofhope 153 reads
posted
21 / 24

Even under an alias I do not feel comfortable about discussing how I know but trust me I do know. It can affect both sides of the envelope, I have seen it. I have felt its effects. I have lived it.

killedfromafar 3 Reviews 164 reads
posted
22 / 24

PTSD may not be the proper diagnosis in this case but I think I understand what he means. Society has been programmed to think this business is taboo, dirty, degrading, etc etc etc. So choosing to be a part of it in any manner can play a major role in psychological damage.
From a provider's side, at some point she may realize the emotional disconnection she has formed. Add any other factor (drugs, kids not living with them, etc) and depression is almost certain. And since you can't see the forest from the trees, these effects may not fully occur until after you leave the business.
From the hobbyist's point of view, many of us grew up being told that only desparate guys use prostitutes. So after the smile fades following the appointment, we may feel worse about ourselves for doing it. But since we are wired differently, we continue to hobby because sex improves our confidence - whether short-lived or not.

Knowofhope 146 reads
posted
23 / 24

But outside of being trafficked, assaulted, or raped while providing/hobbying I doubt you can get PTSD from the hobby, but PTSD can affect ones providing/hobbying dramatically. That is what I was referring to even though I doubt that was what the OP was really referring to.

indianaprovider See my TER Reviews 160 reads
posted
24 / 24

PSTD-
Post-traumatic stress disorder: A common anxiety disorder that develops after exposure to a terrifying event or ordeal in which grave physical harm occurred or was threatened. Family members of victims also can develop the disorder. PTSD can occur in people of any age, including children and adolescents. More than twice as many women as men experience PTSD following exposure to trauma. Depression, alcohol or other substance abuse, or other anxiety disorders frequently co-occur with PTSD.

The diagnosis of PTSD requires that one or more symptoms from each of the following categories be present for at least a month and that symptom or symptoms must seriously interfere with leading a normal life:

Traumatic events that may trigger post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) include violent personal assaults, natural or human-caused disasters, accidents, or military combat. Among those who may experience PTSD are troops who served in the Vietnam and Gulf Wars; rescue workers involved in the aftermath of disasters like the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.; survivors of the Oklahoma City bombing; survivors of accidents, rape, physical and sexual abuse, and other crimes; immigrants fleeing violence in their countries; survivors of the 1994 California earthquake, the 1997 North and South Dakota floods, and hurricanes Hugo and Andrew; and people who witness traumatic events.

Many people with PTSD repeatedly re-experience the ordeal in the form of flashback episodes, memories, nightmares, or frightening thoughts, especially when they are exposed to events or objects reminiscent of the trauma. Anniversaries of the event can also trigger symptoms. People with PTSD also experience emotional numbness and sleep disturbances, depression, anxiety, and irritability or outbursts of anger. Feelings of intense guilt are also common. Most people with PTSD try to avoid any reminders or thoughts of the ordeal. PTSD is diagnosed when symptoms last more than 1 month.

so to say PSTD affecting providers?  it happens especially if that provider was forcibly raped....
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