I had a new client today. At the end of the session he took out his credit card and asked me to charge it (what independent charges credit card?). He seemed surprised that I didn't take credit card.
He told me he would run down to ATM to get cash and never came back reason being he had to get back to work.
I asked him to mail check or money order.
I am hoping that he does.

This is even more odd.
I saw a client twice before I did an overnight.  He left a clip of cash on my kitchen counter among his other stuff when he came. I didn't take it because I wasn't sure if it was for me or his money.  I hate asking for money believing clients would just leave it somewhere eventually.
When he left, money wasn't there anymore. After searching for an envelope, I sent him a text if he forgot to leave something. He replied with his email he left the clip of money on my kitchen counter.

Are these kinds of things more common with independents? I never have anything like this when I work with agencies.
Is this how girls get ripped off?
I hope things like these don't happen to anyone else.

H

I try to get it out of the way early so that afterwards when I'm all hot & bothered I don't forget!

Once had to go back to a clients house cause I forgot, lol!

I hope they will be upstanding gents & take care of it but be sure to post their info if they will not so it doesn't happen to another one of us.

Best of luck

Yes, you may well be got ripoff from both of the clients. A season hobbyist will most of the time leave the "envelope" in plain view with no discussion.

At least it looks that way to me.

Did you screen them ahead of time?  There shouldn't have to be any discussion of the business matters.  A gentleman leaves the donation where it should be discreetly and that should be it.

I hope you get your donations.  Good luck.

money discretely up front.....then proceed......I have seen too many ladies who have told me of being ripped off in these ways.....those guys are the lowest.......

You sure did, sweetie. This is why you ALWAYS get the gift before you do anything. Take it in the bathroom and count it. Then if there's an issue you can either confront, adjust or leave.

Don't "hate to ask for the money--" guys like this count on you to be shy about it, and then you see what you get.

You're there because they hire you. Hired people get paid. I've never been ripped off because I follow the upfront policy without exception.

You've learned an important lesson with these 2 cheaters... take it to heart and it will never happen to you again!

But you SHOULD always be getting your money up front ! ALWAYS - Put on your site to leave their envelope in the bathroom when he goes to wash up -

ALL clients should be washing their hands before anyhow-

Then you go in and do the same - count it-
If it isnt all there- give them that amount of time-

There is no need to talk about it -

H,
I have a couple of old school Favs who I place the donation & tip after but most and certainly new friends place it before hand.  Some ladies check it & remove it (but that is tacky).  Placing it in the bathroom provides for discretion.  
No matter when I place the donation, I do so discretely, usually on the dresser next to where I undress.  Once I had a Fav actually ask me if that was mine or hers!  
My ATF, as I said, I silently place the donation on the dresser while dressing (it is ready in a paper clip in my front pocket where I keep my keys...  so I'll not forget it) and she scoops it without me seeing it sometime during the her dressing.
One nice lady I dated removed it & I guess I followed her with my eyes when she left the room...  when she returned, she stated that she'd been robbed in the past...  we had a good time...  
I guess if it is not clear if something your gift, you must sweetly ask "If that mine?"  Do not let creeps rip you off.  

Once, I scared myself... I almost forgot to drop the donation.  I felt it as I was checking my keys.  I would have returned to take care of it.  
skb        

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It's a sure way that LE can pin a rap on you.

Clients who want to use a CC for the hobby should be looking for a safer hobby - like parachutting.

They are no different from purse snatchers or other petty thieves.  You should always get paid up front, but trust is wonderful. Some years ago, I had seen a lady some distance away from me twice and was coming up to her neck of the woods for an interview.  I was staying at a wonderful hotel.  I made a date for her and a friend of hers for two hours.  Before they got there, I realized I had left my money at home and had maxed out my money card for the day. When they arrived, I told them up front.  They decided to trust me.  We had a great time. I mailed her a postal check as soon as I got home.  I got the job and she and I had a wonderful (for me, I hope for her) relationship marked by dinners, a few over nights, and one occasion when she got stuck and I wired her a substantial advance against future dates. I treasure those years which would never have occurred had she been exposed to thieving jerks like you describe.  I apologize for the jerks of my gender.

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After all, you are doing this to earn a living.  There should never be any ambiguity about the donation, when you expect it and how you prefer to get it. Be specific on your website about leaving the donation in plain sight at the start of the appointment. If you want it in an envelope then say so.

As far as the credit card guy... sorry, you got ripped off and you really have no one to blame but yourself. If you have his contact info I would give him a day or so to make good and then post on your local board about the guy and offer the info to other providers via back channel. Don't let this A-hole do this to another lady.

Indie girls have to look out for themselves. The things that we are talking about here are all avoidable if you make them a priority in your dealings with clients.

good luck to you.

I think I have had this feeling for the first time in my many years as a companion and it sure does hurt.
   
I saw a gentleman the other day that I have known for at least 4 or 5 years. Never asked for my money in advance and he is treated very special, as I now welcome him to my very private location. Always sit and talk forever if I have no plans.

Long story short never get gift up front from him and we had a very nice time. Yes extra time as usual. He fished in his pocket when he was ready to leave and pulled out no money. Said he must have lost it earlier on the way over. I wanted to so believe! I am a genuine lady who does like my friends and what a sour taste I had all day. Do hope no one is feeling the little prick I feel each time I by pass asking for my gift. Please don't make me hardcore, old friend and do come thru for me with your gift.

Hope no one minds me writing this here but am hoping my friend will read and understand what this will do to the way I might feel about others.

Kisses Haley

What a shame if he ruins the fact that you were able and willing to establish a special relationship with him, but the safest is to get the envelope placed in plain site before.  It does sound like he will come through, please let us know if he does.  It will prevent us all from having a terrible taste in our mouths.

In her case, it's GRAND theft, because she's a grand lady and her services far exceed the value needed to turn petit theft into grand theft!

I'm sorry to say that I believe you were ripped off.  Several men try that ATM bullshit.  What I suggest is asking to hold his Credit Card and driver's license (in case you have to find someone to process it for you) and walking with him to the ATM.  If you wait until the ATM to ask him for some collateral, he'll tell you that he has already exceeded his daily limit.

I'm so sorry.

I've been with several ladies who never asked for the donation.  I've always left it in the bathroom in that case, but I asked one one day why she didn't ask.  Her answer made perfect sense, she would rather do a guy for free every now and then than get busted for soliciting.  When you think about it, its not the sex thats illegal, its the solicitation.  

Everybody is different, but ripping off a lady would ruin the experience for me - just like haggling about the difference between what was promised and what was delivered, its all just not worth it.  
MVR

You’re to trusting with guys you don’t know and should always get your fee up front.

We understand that and should always be prepared to pay with cash up front and not be offended when asked to set to donation on the table.  F___ the envelope.

AND all you providers that take C/C be careful because as soon as the client walks out he can call his C/C company and cancel the chargers saying the services where’re delivered.

I don’t think you’ll want to fight those charges.

Just out the A/H right here so he doesn’t get away with doing this again.