Have you ever noticed that the clock in the hotel room has been set ahead? I never remember to look at it when I first arrive, but toward the end my watch is elsewhere and we/she check the clock on the nightstand to determine time is about up. Then while getting dressed I see that my watch shows almost 10 minutes left. This has happened more than once.

Is this a sly move meant to catch those of us who are absent-minded?

but not very sly.  Happens.

Most timed services are really 50 minutes. Maybe your time is up by the time you actually leave?
Did you notice if YOU started your appointment on time?
If you answered yes then this is probably why.
If you were a high end client I could see why the petty question but you are VERY likely a lower budget guy.
They can be petty and demanding,yet cheap.

We can't predict if you will be in a hurry to leave or mess up our schedules and that can lead to cancellations.

We need to prepare the room and ourselves.

We pay a lot of money to be available in hotels for you so can you just be a little more understanding?

Maybe you should put your tie in your pocket and rush out the door and you will get more time for playtime.

It would be great if some experienced gentlemen could post some "get ready to leave in a flash" tips.

Then maybe you could realistically time yourself and then next time you have an appt with a lady you can request the full time.

I have gotten so carried away with guests that he dresses all the way to the door and it has been crazy dashing around.

I have also many times had to say,"you have to leave now" and go open the door even though we were having a good time chatting.

I learned to make a little time during the appt. for your exit to avoid having to practically kick ya out abruptly.
Make good use of your time.

Maybe see more PSE ladies who will attack you from the start then save your chit chat for when you have to take a break. Believe me, you'll be ready for a shower and need at least ten minutes to get yourself back together.

I am more on the upper average to high end. So I can be more generous with my time.

I also do not waste a lot of time. An hour goes by quickly so learn how to have the fun you need in 50 minutes and you can have a warm and friendly goodbye and leave in about an hour.

Maybe you should also learn to negotiate. Try to find a win-win between your desires and her schedule.

It is hard to work out of a hotel in the first place.

You guys get worked up about "clock watching".
Watching the clock let's you figure out what you can still fit in or maybe a little back rub and or shower if your almost out of time.

You should consider language barriers as well.

I let people know how the time is going throughout the session so they won't end up disappointed. They get a chance to voice what they really wanted to achieve during our visit before time runs out.


Many guys want us to make all sorts of predictions about your wants and desires.

You want younger ladies and then complain when we are inexperienced or missed something but you didn't open your mouth during the visit.

Please excuse me if some of my statements were a little harsh sounding.
I am blunt but very sincere and kind hearted.I'm just inexperienced in communicating over the net and English is my second language.
I think I'll use an alias since I really feel the board is hot anyway.

that's why I have an "atomic" powered watch that receives the NIST Time signal, so there are never any question as to which time is the most accurate.  as long as you arrive on the appted time, you will never lose track of what time it is, as the time on my watch is always the correct one.  or you can always search reviews of ladies who do not clock watch.

I'm mean, you're only basking in the afterglow for that last 57 minutes anyhow.

I don't know how you define high end vs low budget, but I'm not seeing $200 ladies. Typical is $300-350, which for my area at least, puts in on the upper end but certainly not the very top. I do not consider myself petty or demanding but I suppose that is the provider's call not mine. And yes, I've always been on time. As I said there is a difference between the clock and my watch, so its not a matter of when I arrived.

If an hour really is only 50 minutes, then fine, be upfront and honest about it---tell me an hour is 50 minutes, but don't do it sneaky by purposely moving the clock ahead so that you appear to give me 60 minutes when you are not.

And I do not plan to negotiate. I don't see why negotiating over time is any less tacky then negotiating over rate. It amounts to the same thing. I'll accept the provider's set rates and times as long as I know what they are when I book the appointment.

Trust me-we providers don't have the time or the inclination to change every clock in our hotel rooms every time we check in.  I notice that clocks are almost always off when I visit new hotels-this isn't by my doing, but a maid's or whoever is supposed to update those things.

Okay, I should have said my experience is that cheap guys are demanding and petty.

Learning to negotiate means that you can open your mouth and see what is up with the time.

I usually cannot remember when we started anyway so I look in my phone to check when you called me and try to honestly guess when we really started.

I always advertise that I give the full time.

Your original post was one big and negative assumption.
You can learn to ask for the whole hour or check up front or let her know you don't need a lot of time to get ready to leave or you can just complain and try to make yourself a victim.

Negotiating means getting what you need and deserve without intruding on her schedule.

Basically life is one long negotiation and it looks like you need some communicating skills.
I just mean this is just something we all go through.

I would try not to make assumptions and assume a dubious motive.
Try this: " I thought we still had ten more minutes.
She might say "Oh ,Ok. You want a backrub?"
or "I have another client so we can we finish up in ten minutes", or "ok but you will have to leave quickly because I have someone after you and I need to clean up."
If she doesn't sound like she wants too give you the time just nicely say that for that rate you were hoping for the full time.  
We deal with businessmen and you should know that we have to deal with the way corporate business is. You kinda have to make people give you what your entitled too.
We see you guys in the corporate world and your ways rub off on us because that is what we see.
Our higher end clients forget that we have to get ready and really want a shower.
They will overstay for 20 minutes so she might have been just giving you plenty of time to leave.

You see ,they start getting ready ten minutes early and leave ten minutes late.

The same men who are keeping you on the long conference calls and meeting...these are the types we see too.

They are probably the ones who take 20 minute showers and I have to give my room # to the next guy so he will jump out and leave. LoL!

I frequently am the party who gets the room, so I notice this when I check in.

I think the hotels do this on purpose to get people out of the room faster.  I just go ahead and reset them anyways.

The gals don't deserve a black eye over this.

This is why I specifically offer "sessions" that can and do range from between 1.5 to 2.5 hours. You pay my higher end donation, and we get to spend a wonderful interlude with no regard for time. It's dependent upon the client's schedule, not mine. Of course, if I was booking clients back to back I would worry about the 10 minutes (oh, my)!

I doubt that the hotels have any ulterior motive - afterall, we all now have cell phones, pda's and computers to tell us the proper time.

The real fun is when they forget to adjust the clocks for DST. Doh! -e

So I take it setting a kitchen timer isn't good? Just kidding!

Hey, it's better than a stop watch! -e

The time with the lady was so timeless and moved so fast that an hour after checkout time the hotel wanted the room for the next guest...

Crap!

Would you be asking this question if you were always noticing that the clocks always seemed to be ten minutes slow and your watch showed 1:10 as you are getting dressed?

I keep my own clocks 5-10 minutes fast.  You'd be amazed how many friends think 5-10 till the hour is up is the perfect time to try one more round.  This way, I'm always game, and they hit the shower at about the time their hour is up.  They still tend to leave 10 minutes AFTER the hour is over, if not even later.

.02 from a non-clock watching lady who still has a healthy respect for keeping the boundaries of our agreement fairly clear.

LoL

That's a slick trick. If I was a man-whore, I'd certainly keep that one in mind (deuce deuce Bigalow...party people!!!).

Another trick they could do would be set it 30 minutes ahead, but give you the 'extra' 'phantom' 30 minutes and say they are giving you more time, when in reality you are not (good way to get stunning reviews!!!)

LOL. Ok let me stop giving them ideas. I'm always afraid to wear my submariner (saved up forever for that thing..)..; any watch that isn't nice I can't stand having on cause its tacky...and you can't really look at your cellphone, so I set a cell phone alarm before entering an incall or recieving an outcall. The alarm is 10 minutes past the paid for time...Though I don't always remember to do it. I could have been bamboozled actually in retro-spect, buf if the session is going well, you could be punked. But if it so good your losing track of time to you really lose?

-M

This is a good post, and where the heck are your reviews, you sound like a winner... There is some great advice here from the provider-perspective, I learned a few things!

-M

Dude that f'in blows.

-M

are the ones I usually try to avoid. No worries. It's their perogative AND mine. If proper research let's one slip through then I typically won't repeat. There are always exceptions though.

I never intentionly go over time and try to be out the door in HER time frame not mine.

About being reminded of the time, the only thing worse that I can hear is, "Are you going to come pretty soon?"

Well letting them know how much time is left is for them to choose what they can enjoy. If they say nothing I always give a backrub.
At the close of the appointment I used to go and run the shower for them.
You always make it about them.

It is also good to help keep the guys on track. My clients squeeze me in between meetings and have needed to get back to work so I ask them what they want and we discuss the time.

I always try to get them to stay but my job is to watch the clock so they can completely unwind.
We don't ALWAYS want you to leave

I've been seeing this one gal for about 18 months now and she just mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she sets the clock ahead in her room by about ten minutes. I see her once or twice a month and I had never noticed this before. She has her reasons and they have nothing to do with trying to rip guys off for ten minutes of their time. It is a simple but effective method of remaining on schedule and being ready for clients when the phone rings.

I always book two hours once I get to know a lady so as to avoid the whole clock watching issue but the reality is this: One hour means One hour. If you have booked an hour that means you should plan on being out the door when sixty minutes is up...not starting to get dressed or asking to take a quick shower.  As is often said, we are ultimately paying for a lady's time. Taking advantage of that time is just plain rude.

As I mentioned, I never noticed that my gal's clock was set ahead. In my mind, if I'm having a good time and being treated fairly the last thing I'm looking at is the alarm clock.

To be sure there are girls who will scam you. As always the reviews here are a great way to help separate the scam artists from the hard working ladies we all want to see.

Mine is actually set for 7 minutes ahead and I call it my snooze time.  I have some clients that take forever to shower and put on their clothes and even with the extra 7 minutes are leaving 10 minutes past the hour.  In all fairness though, when guys ask the time I do tell them the true time, and if they say something about the 7 minutes I tell them it's my snooze time.

I have one client who really is a nice guy but getting him out the door is damn near impossible.  If it werem't for that snooze time he'd be leaving half an hour after he was supposed to.  He scheduled a 90 minute appointment one day and 85 minutes into the appointment (according to my clock) he asked for another round.  I said I'm very sorry but there isn't time for another round plus your shower (he takes hella long showers).  He actually had the nerve to walk into the bathroom and look at his watch and say well I almost got my 90 minutes.  After he left, I sent him a text to check his watch and let me know how much time he had actually been there. He sent me an email later apologizing for overstaying but he still does it every time!

Even with my built in snooze time the majority of my clients end up there for 5 - 10 minutes over anyway.  I just like to make sure it isn't 12 - 17, lol.

I wasn't criticizing you. I made it clear that running things your way was fine. I simply implied that you and I would probably never meet (at least not twice).

It's OK for you to run the session as you see fit, I'm guessing (only guessing 'cause we don't know who you are, and that's probably wise) that many of your clients (repeat ones anyway) appreciate your style.

But it's ALSO OK for me to choose ladies that have a style that "I" appreciate. I think it's as simple as. . . I prefer to see woman that aren't as busy as you seem to be.

I suspect many of your clients will be disturbed to learn that you keep your clocks 5-10 min fast.  At best it belies the claim you are a “non-clock watching lady”.  At worst it is deceptive especially for lady who advertise “ I  believe in Karma, what I give comes back” The friends that want to try one more late round are probably the exception and not the rule.  Why punish the many because of the inconsideration of the few? What has happen to the art of good customer service? In old days you go to butcher he add a few extra ounce of meat, head of garlic, and parsley and not charge you knowing that you will more likely repeat customer and spend more money.  The same can go for this hobby. A lady that may allow a 5- to 10 min overtime will be more likely get a bigger tipped and gain a repeat customer.  A lady that short a customer in time will not get many repeats and lose repeat clients if the customer realized this is occurring. As an example let me relate this recent experience with a lady I have been seeing for several years.  I always schedule 2 hours or longer appointment and at my age I am at most 1 or 2 shot guy. Without my glasses I am blind as bat and depend on the lady to keep the time and usually if I suspect I near the end I will asked the lady if my time is up and when she say times is up I do not linger.  I have never tried for a late one more round! Always I am out the door within 15 min after times is up.  In consideration I always leave at least a 25% tip and as much as a 50% tip. Well the last time I visit this lady the 2 hour appointment was for 10:30 AM to 12:30 PM and I left leaving a 40% tip when she said time was up. When I went to my car and use my cell phone I realized it was only 12:15 PM.  Should I give her consideration for all the times I stay 5 to 10 min overtime? I wonder if she would give me consideration if I did not tip her and shorter her 50% of the donation the next time?  I am at quandary of whether to see this lady again who I know is undergoing some difficult times.  I also have my self respect an know there are many ladies who would be more considerate of a long-term client who is in turn considerate of the time spent and any little extra time he may receive.

I used to be one of those providers for whom an hour date meant an hour and fifteen to twenty minutes. But I stopped that because I kept getting taken advantage of. As the lady above mentioned, you would not believe how many men try to start another round five or ten minutes before the hour is up. Also, an hour-plus-a-little should be taken as an extra little gift or bonus, not something to be expected each and every time, as also came to be the case. And then there are also those for whom it's like pulling teeth trying to get them out the door, even ten minutes past the hour that they had scheduled.

Of course we will all do things to our preference. For me personally, I will not be taken advantage of like I was at the beginning of my venture into this. For those who want longer than an hour, they can book an hour and a half with me. It has nothing to do with being "busy" (I'm an extremely low-volume provider and usually take one date at most in a day, if that's what you're hinting at). No, it has to do with respect.

Yes, I do see staying over your allotted time as taking advantage of the lady- no matter how much the two of you might be truly getting along and enjoying one another's company. Oh, what, you appreciate her generosity? Return it with your own.

(EDIT: Note that I'm not saying that I'm going to stress over an extra five or ten minutes every now and then, not at all. You also aren't going to see me constantly looking at my watch- you probably won't catch me looking at it or the clock at all. I'm talking those cases where ten minutes or more is the norm- every single time, or for those who always start getting ready five minutes before their time is up, but it always takes them fifteen minutes or longer to get ready.)

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and you will never find me on your list of men that try to "take advantage". Actually, I'm usually out the door ahead schedule. It's just my personal preference that any hint of "clock watching" is a turn off, even if it is supposedly to my benefit.

Are the friends that want to try one more round in the last few minutes or are constantly leaving late, the exception or the rule? If not the latter why punish (short the time) of the many because of the inconsideration of the few?  Why short the time of any client who is generally prompt in leaving on time even if the majority is not? Are you not now taking advantage of clients who are generally prompt in leaving on time? Do you give any consideration to a client who tips well because recognized he sometimes leaves 5-10 min late. Your post as well as Sola, and Trophy Wife post makes you all appear as calculating and cold to me.

You consider it "punishment" for me to post my rate for an hour, and actually stick to that as being my rate for an hour?

How am I "taking advantage" of giving someone an hour when they book with me for just that- an hour?

Who said I shorted any client on time? At no point did I say anything about my moving the time on clocks. I rarely even make note of what time my room's clock says when I come in, and when I do it's often way off. An hour = an hour, no matter what timepiece one is going by.

I return generosity like-for-like. Do you?

It's "calculating and cold" for us to post an hourly rate and expect to receive that as an hourly rate (and like I said, a few minutes here and there are ok, but not every single time), but I'll bet when your doctor, accountant or lawyer does the same, it's "professional" and "business-like" behavior, huh?

(EDIT: Re-reading your above post, you must be confusing me with those who do set their clocks fast and short clients time. I am not one of these ladies. I don't short anyone time, but I do expect you to recognize that one hour means one hour. Maybe my own post above got a little off topic and led to the confusion, sorry.)

-- Modified on 1/8/2008 5:50:22 PM

So you know that this lady has been going through some rough times, you paid her for a full two hours plus a big tip and you believe she shorted you... have you thought to ASK her about your latest visit and what happened? Have you given her the chance to explain herself and make things right? Or did you assume that she knew exactly what she had done and was deliberately trying to cheat a long-term client out of time that he'd paid for?

-- Modified on 1/8/2008 6:22:41 PM

Even with my clocks set 5-10 minutes fast, I have NEVER had a client leave early who didn't insist due to time constraints on their end.  You make a very big and very incorrect assumption that my practice has ever shorted anyone ANY time.

As it is, most friends leave about 15 minutes after.  That would be 20-25 minuts AFTER their session if I didn't have the clock bumped to try to offset that time of getting moving, getting showered (where I often join my friends for a last little grope) and getting dressed, often with a bit of additional chat at the door for that last hug and a kiss.  

"I suspect many of your clients will be disturbed to learn that you keep your clocks 5-10 min fast."
I would imagine that those who bother to check would be surprised at how LATE they are leaving my door.    

"At best it belies the claim you are a “non-clock watching lady”."
Trying to keep the overages to a reasonable amount of time is nowhere near the same as clock watching.  I'm a bit tired of hearing guys complain that a lady is clock watching when he (heaven forbid!) ONLY gets the time that he pays for. Not clock watching means that you will not know I am even aware of the time, and ideally, you will not be either.  It does NOT mean that you have as much time as you would like, regardless of what you schedule.

"The friends that want to try one more late round are probably the exception and not the rule."
Sweetie, I am *sure* that you are a very considerate gentelman.  And I will assure you that you are off on the odds.  They may not be the rule, they are far from the exception.
; )

"Why punish the many because of the inconsideration of the few?"
Five years now - I'd love to hear from any gentleman who will step forward to say that they feel I have punished them or shorted them time.  Anyone?  Anyone?  C'mon, we can find even ONE can't we?  Three pages of reviews here as well as on many other boards... just one?!

"What has happen to the art of good customer service? In old days you go to butcher he add a few extra ounce of meat, head of garlic, and parsley and not charge you knowing that you will more likely repeat customer and spend more money."

When I give extra time it's because I am enjoying myself so much that it rolls into extra time, because I don't want to interrupt your shower to tell you that you've been in there for over 20 minutes and have to leave, or for a variety of odd and end reasons.  It is not because I feel it is necessary for good customer service.  

AND this rant coming from the man (if you are who I believe you to be) who has REFUSED to accept extra time I've offered on birthdays and other special occassions?  What bug is up your ass tonight?  Contact me directly if you don't like my post.  I've been waiting to hear from you anyways!


-- Modified on 1/8/2008 7:10:43 PM

“(EDIT: Re-reading your above post, you must be confusing me with those who do set their clocks fast and short clients time. I am not one of these ladies. I don't short anyone time, but I do expect you to recognize that one hour means one hour. Maybe my own post above got a little off topic and led to the confusion, sorry.)”

Sorry, I was referring to ladies who set their clocks ahead to deceive their client when the time is actually up.  How many very considerate clients looking at the ladies clock wrongly conclude their time is nearly up, shower and leave 10 min short?  I am strong believer that I am just buying a slot of time in your life.  If, I am 15 min late to an appointment I insist it be subtracted from my time.

“I return generosity like-for-like. Do you?”

I suspect most of my lady friend know I am considerate, trusting and generous.  How many of your client tip you 25 to 45% and is also very punctual in arriving and leaving?

“It's "calculating and cold" for us to post an hourly rate and expect to receive that as an hourly rate (and like I said, a few minutes here and there are ok, but not every single time), but I'll bet when your doctor, accountant or lawyer does the same, it's "professional" and "business-like" behavior, huh?”

It is calculating and cold for a provider to set a clock ahead to deceive a client.  It is a frequent use logical fallacy to compare the profession of Provider with that of a Doctor, Lawyer or Accountant.  With a provider you are contracting for a preset time slot in her life, not so for the other professions. Lawyers, Doctors or Accountants do not deliberately set their clock ahead.  Yes I would consider it unprofessional for an Accountant or Lawyer to charge me for a 50 min hour

Don’t worry this Grinch won’t be back next Christmas

Because I know it would degenerate in to a response like that of Sola below.  The ladies attention to her practice has degenerated as a result of other problems in her life and being over extended. Subtle attempts by me and others to inform her have been rebuffed and her being very defensive and it none of your business response. She needs to get back to what made her a great provider.  I like to attribute what she done or lack of doing to negligence and not to a deliberate attempt to cheat.  The net result is the same.  The shorting of time is the symptom of the major problem of negligence.  The best thing I can now do for her is to move on and perhaps she will realized what negligence has a cost for both of us.

Your attitude and business model is exactly what I look for.

-- Modified on 1/9/2008 1:18:38 AM

"The ladies attention to her practice has degenerated as a result of other problems in her life and being over extended."

Let's see - You say you want to watch porn during a session so I go out and buy no less than six videos as options for our time together.  You mention on a discussion board conversation that you like a particular outfit in one of a ladies photo shoots, so I do my best to match it when we meet.  You tell me that I go too far out of my way preparing our dinners and you have always been too generous with your tips, as I've mentioned more than once.  Regardless of what my clock has said, other than a misunderstanding with Devie, I can guarantee you have never been shorted time.  My own house rules say that when the clock says your time is up (if I happen to notice!) that is when I slowly start to wrap things up and get the shower started.  We mutually agreed that even when I changed my in-studio dinner dates to three hours, we kept yours at four.  We've had pleasant little exchanges via email aside of our face-time, and not a single hint that you have ever been dissatisfied.  All of that covers the four sessions we had since I've become "overextended." My attention has disentigrated?!  Thanks for letting me know.  

"Subtle attempts by me and others to inform her have been rebuffed"
Such as?  This is not defensive, this is certainly curiosity as I'm getting nothing but fantastic email feedback from all of my friends and have heard nothing of the sort from you.  Hell, I had to even *guess* that it was YOU posting here until the email - which is where I think any other discussion should be, unless you'd care to leave an honest review.  I do take feedback well, I do not respond to attacks so freely.

"The shorting of time is the symptom of the major problem of negligence."
Again, you seem to be hung up on a scheduling confusion from October that has nothing to do with shorting of time, something I've *never* done.

"The best thing I can now do for her is to move on"
No, the best thing YOU can do is be honest with your friends vs. telling them you had a wonderful time to their face, and then steaming for two months over a simple misunderstanding.  Perhaps your ladies would go out of their way to take care of your concerns, IF they had any way of knowing.

I do believe that I agree fully with your assessment.  If after four years you don't feel you can talk to ME... well, then there really isn't even a reasonable professional relationship in the works.

-- Modified on 1/9/2008 1:19:23 AM

Next time, please post something that I can disagree with

So what if she sets her clock ahead? She has credibly explained why she does this. It’s not about trying to deceive anyone, nor is this a “symptom of the major problem of negligence” (which is a pretty strong accusation).

Clearly there has been some kind of misunderstanding here. But that’s something  to (at least attempt) to get resolved with her in private. How could she possibly have made whatever it was right? You never told her you were upset. You stewed about it, and then out of the blue, blasted her on a public forum. (and while, no, you didn’t name her by name in your post, anyone who knows her would have to be pretty thick not to have picked up on it since you quoted her website). Not Nice.

I highly encourage you to take this issue up with her in private, and allow her an opportunity to address your concern; assuming she even still considers this an option.

I assure you  Sola is anything but a clock watcher. I have enjoyed her company many times, and it is MUCH more often the case  that I realize, after the fact, that we have run longer than our scheduled time. Once or twice ( I think) we’ve wrapped up right *on time*.  But NEVER once has the time difference EVER tipped in HER favor.

And if I ever thought it had? I certainly wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that she was trying to pull one over on me. Why would she do that?

Sola is a good egg---what up?

You say an hour is really only 50 minutes.  Ok..lets see why....

You book an hour at 1:00.  You arrive at 1:00, talk and gt aquainted (10-15 min) Its now 1:15 roughly.  You do the do (whihc sounds to me like you want 59 minutes) So youdo the do.  Its now roughly 2:15 (already over the H O U R you scheduled)  Now comes the part where you have to dress and leave.  You want a shower?  Add another 10 minutes or so. You get dressed, another 5-10 minutes.   It's now around 2:30.  You say your goodbye's and out the door you go.  It's now 2:35-2:40 roughly.

Now.  Provider has another appointment at 3:00.  
Where in turn the provider has to clean the room, check her email,check her voice mail, get cleaned up (makeup, hair, hygiene etc), communicate with other clients (including her 3:00) and bring herself back down to level so that when she opens the door at 3:00 after having 30 minutes or les to get ready and prepare, she is a dishoveld mess and the 3:00 appointment doesnt get the attention, nor the personal level she would normally give because she has less than 30 f****ing muinutes to prepare.

Not all providers like to be on their backs all day in between appointments.  Might be difficult to imagine but providers have real lives and between those appointments is when we take care of those real lives. Including setting up appointments for hobbyist, such as yourself.

My one hour appts always go at least 1.5.  Do I expect to be paid for that last 30 minutes?  No.  Why?  Because those extra 30 minutes are for the getting to know each other, cleaning up, dressing, etc.  Very rarely will I have a client in and out the door at the 60 minute mark.  

You wanna do it for 59 minutes?  No problem.  Find a provider that will agree to be undressed, in bed, have her leave the door open and just come on in and get right to it.  Im sure you can find someone willing to do so....try CL, their are smothered with them.

I actually happy that Sola has her supporters and hope you will all support her more concretely with your continued business.  Since you also have indicated you have enjoyed her company I suggest a submitted review by you, which you have not yet done, would be more helpful to her than your current post.  I have submitted several very positive accurate reviews of Sola/Devie in the past. My review on this board is under a different moniker and I am sure she will vouch such a review exist.

I do take objection to you implication that I identify Sola as the lady who shorted me time. If you careful read my post the quote from her website was in relation to her admitting to setting her clocks ahead only.  

"I do take objection to you implication that I identify Sola as the lady who shorted me time. If you careful read my post the quote from her website was in relation to her admitting to setting her clocks ahead only."

You are correct in that I drew a spurious connection regarding your reference to her website---I should be more careful.

However,  looking at the overall ‘spirit’ of the thread, ….it does become fairly clear who the lady in question is. And once that connection is made, it is difficult not to view most, if not all of your statements as being thinly veiled commentary on Sola. And that is where the ire rises: “Cold and calculating”, “negligent”, “over extended”,   etcetera…....now we’re talking fightin’ words. I hope you get the point I’m trying to make here.

This board is a place to exchange ideas and opinions---and, as is quite evident, these exchanges can often become very heated. Unfortunately, this thread stopped being an exchange of ideas/opinions and veered a little off the reservation into personal territory.

And regardless of your intent  (which, I’m assuming was not to be slanderous and, also recognizing that these kinds of threads can evolve in unexpected ways), the end net result was that a provider (a person) was put in the position of defending herself on a personal level,  on a public forum.

And that was my main point, really. Sola certainly does not need me to defend her ‘honor’, if you will;  she is quite capable of managing that herself.  Whatever transpired to create this situation is a personal matter between  the two of you. That’s all I’m sayin’ .

And I sincerely hope you’re both able to find a resolution that allows your friendship to continue, as it would be a shame for it to sour permanently over what may be a simple misunderstanding.

Re: a review? That is also a personal matter between myself and Sola (Devie).

When I said an hour ended up being only 50 minutes, it was when I checked my watch after getting dressed. That means at the door at 1:00, and now dressed and ready to go at 1:50. 50 minutes time spent in the room total. How in the world did you give me 1 hour 40 minutes there?