When I see this in an ad alarm clocks go off in my head because I see this as a dine and ditch set up. Like you pay for two hours and they sprint after 45 minutes because they can. However this only happened to me once and it was several years ago when I was new to this thing. Just curious what other people's impression is when they see this. Maybe times have changed.

I think to myself "this is a girl who doesn't fuck enough guys to justify an incall"

Some people might even take that as a 'good thing" to me it doesn't matter much, I am what most people would call a "high volume" guy myself, trying to see only "low volume' girls seems like it would be rather hypocritical on my part.

You do realize this is a review board I hope, if these women are doing "dine and ditch" as you like to call it, the reviews should say so. If these women don't have reviews, than someone like you shouldn't be seeing them in the first place.

Well that's the thing. I also notice girls that do this also tend not to have reviews or few of them.

I am in Vegas which is more of a traveler's/tourist city where guys already have hotel rooms.
A couple of rare times I did offer incall in my homebase but my preference is outcall.
If you see outcall only in a provider's ad or website it should not be cause for alarm if she is well-reviewed with a great history.I don't know who you saw many years ago that would make you form an opinion that outcall only means dine and ditch.
I show up on time stay the entire time I am paid for and quite a few times left way past appt time but then that is where reviews come into play.So please don't lump us all outcall only providers in to the same bunch.
Some cities are more outcall than incall.The times I do tour I offer incall.

...or maybe I've just been lucky. The only thing I think when I see this is she'd rather come to me and doesn't want to go thru the hassle and expense of setting up an incall. When I've had them come to me, I've never had one dash. In fact, it's usually the opposite, they don't seem in a hurry to leave and I'm not about to kick them out...😎

I know she might have a driver, but...mostly I bask in the comforting thought that she's not going to be drunk.

Never made sense to me. No room to book. Seems like almost all orofit other than drive time. Unless uts uber.

When I'm visiting a city I prefer incall. When I do incall locally I have the added expense of paying for a place to host. And if I'm dining out, I find myself thinking about BCD dessert way too much to ditch my date!

Hopefully this doesn't alarm anyone, lol.

Steph xox

We have never considered that not having an incall would make something think of bad things. We have found that most hobbiests when traveling prefer to 'host' us. It is easier for them since they don't have to worry about transportation. While we often 'host' while traveling, we don't see enough people in our home city (by design due to needing to maintain a low profile locally) to warrant a Phx-based incall.  

Jaydalee is spot on! Please don't lump us all together. It is worth the effort to check out the reason why some of us don't offer incall in certain situations.

Tori & Nick

I choose to live 1+ hours away from my main market because I love nature and the countryside. While I enjoy the city, I always say that I love to visit... and then I love to leave. The days I'd envision myself as a full-time city resident are long past (although I do keep toying w/the idea of living there for the most unpleasant winter months).  

But, the reason I'd do incall isn't to be more busy. I was so busy for half of July and all of August that I honestly felt that I had no summer. Same for Jan-March this past winter... I'd do incall to cut down on my travel time, and to make my schedule more stable/controllable. Like, theoretically, maybe I could work for 1 month and take 2 weeks off. Or work steadily during the wintertime, and take the entire summer off. But I know it doesn't really work that way.  

When I worked incall in NYC, I had people emailing me ALL THE TIME. It was hard to plan ahead, because I never knew when work might pop up. I once had a client text me, saying that he was on my corner... and was I available? I was out food shopping. I told him I could see him in 20 minutes. He told me he found someone else who could see him sooner. Because I feared missing work, I never really felt comfortable taking classes, having family visit, or planning social obligations. I honestly had no life besides being at the beck and call of clients. (My rent in NYC ranged from 2.5k-4.4k per month, so it was hard to say no to bookings). It's also a lot harder to save money in the city.

Doing outcalls, I totally have the flexibility to tell a guy like the one who parked on my corner, to plan ahead, or f*** off. I don't want to see mean or unreasonable people because I feel pressure to pay 3k+ per month for rent (or, save it for next month if I'm currently ahead). I also don't want to feel reluctant to sign up for classes, or commit to other work or social/family obligations.

The great thing about having 0 overhead expenses (minus ad costs) is that I can refuse any appointments that interfere with the life I want to live. Or, that don't feel right to me (which has brought me greater peace of mind than I've ever known as a provider).  

Also, I do mostly longer dates... when a date is 3+ hours, it's no big deal for me to get a hotel room. I still come away with a hefty profit.  

When I do book incall, I treat it like a vacation. I'll find a park or museum nearby, and make a day trip of it.  

Most people who see me think that I 'never work.' Which, in terms of marketing, can definitely be a plus

Especially where it comes to high volume providers, they can book an appointment every hour plus a little time to 'freshen up" between sessions. An outcall provider, especially in a big city where traffic is an issue is almost forced to be "low volume

When at home, I only see one gentleman a day. I used to offer incall, but a lot of guys would cancel at the last minute or no show, and then I'm out the cost of the hotel room.  

Also, at incalls, some guys try to stay way over the agreed upon time and take advantage. When this happens during an outcall, we can just leave. But at an incall, some guys have tried to stay for 90 minutes to 2 hours for the price as one, and it's hard to say "Hey, it's time for you to leave now." lol
 
I always do give the agreed upon time and have sometimes gone over.

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With in-calls I can base my appointments around my schedule which means I can still stay low volume. If I am someone from 10/1 - 10/4  I can see two guys a day and still make profit. It depends on what you consider low volume by the way.

Also when it comes to incall I set the mood and the tone. Going to someone's place that I do not know makes me feel worried because they are in control, anyone can pop up or be inside and it was one time I was recorded. When I'm in a hotel providing a in-call there are other people on the hallway, a front desk staff and cameras.. plus my screening  is safe so I feel secure. Now once the client has seen me a few times I am more than happy to do a outcall to him but not on the first meeting.

 

 

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Steph baby, I was just wondering if some of the good women of Research Triangle Park have ever thought of pooling their resources together and getting a place that they could use for incall.  Then at the end of the year you guys could use it as a tax write off.  Provided that you guys where professional and got along I think it would be a win win for all parties involved.  Also since you guys would have certain things in common it should work out if no one falls out.  Not that I am trying to tell you anything but its just a thought.  

....unless she's only listed on a bottom feeder type site, none of which shall be named here.

If it weren't for the high likelihood that she'll cancel or pull a NCNS (recent experience) I'd prefer outcall ladies.

I've met very few women that show up on time for anything, even if they're going to get some money.

I love women who would come to me.  My apartment was great, large, duplex, right on the water  I was comfortable and happy in my place and loved to share it.
Now that I aback at home with my family, I can not host, but I do still like to stay overnight at a favorite hotel near work, I aways take a certain king sized suite with plenty of room and I love to entertain there.  
In a strange city in a hotel I like to host.
So in the most perfect world I would always be able to host and prefer to do that.
Now some providers have great in call set ups and I have gotten fond of those special ones.
In the end (no pun intended) it is the lady not the place

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in the state and not staying overnight. Back when I traveled for work, I preferred outcall because I didn't have the headache of driving on unfamiliar roads and being challenged by traffic.

I agree! I am also based in Vegas and I do not offer a regular incall, but would get a hotel room if needed, but most gentlemen here host. It hasn't been an issue with me yet.

Although, I don't see "outcall only" providers  exclusively, I am outcall only as a client. I've never had a "dine and ditch" experience in several years of doing outcalls. Luck? Perhaps, but I'm very particular where I "shop". The "outcall only" ads do make me think of other ad sites that are  exactly as Lopaw describes in her post and they are not on my "approved shopping" list. I use TER and 411 exclusively and I "screen" providers by checking reviews, board posts, and using Google for telephone numbers and working names. That process is time consuming, but it has saved my ass more than once and is  absolutely necessary IMO.

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I don't know if I speak for the rest of the guys but I miss your original writing style.

Main reason for providing outcall only is simply a privacy matter.,,, NOt all girl like to rent hotel room, and welcoming in private housing can be really boggus. Especially when living in condo. Neighbors, condo staff, etc.....as well as security matter ...

and have seen some pretty amazing places throughout the country. While I do prefer outcall for the ease, certainly incall has it's perks too, especially during the colder months and when travel is involved.  

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I'm sure in the Raleigh area have it. I've heard of it I other cities. For me my biggest concern for me would be too much traffic in and out of a static location shared by several ladies, plus if one lady gets in "trouble" it puts the other ladies at risk. I've hard of this kind of set up working and I've heard of complete disasters.

It just isn't worth it to me.

Steph xoxo

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Samantha and jaydalee.... that would be an amazing threesome ...
with moi of course.

Speaking of RIP, lets let his "original writing style" do just that, RIP

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Thank you!

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I agree it primarily depends on location and what the provider(s) feels comfortable with. Before I was a provider I lived underneath a young lady that the grounds maitence team knew was a provider. People are inclined to a certain level of curiosity and with the constant comings and going of primarily men it's not hard to figure out what's going on.  From my experience most professional bussiness men visiting aren't looking to drive all over the town and like the convince of the provider coming to them.  

You can't just make simple judgements. It's more about the type of bussiness you are running and your target clientele. Simply I means perhaps that's not the entertainer for you.

Dear ZD & GA,

i thought this was a fairly narrow view of a very much larger picture... and granted of course, obviously you had some negative experiences which formed some of your opinions on this.... so all i can tell you is this - not everyone fits in the same mold, and here's some more food for thought on this topic....

I have also become mainly an outcall-only or "outcalls preferred" provider as well in the last year, but for exactly *none* of the assumed/presumed reasons you (and others now below) have also stated or presumed....  

So, to all that responded favorably in agreement with the initial thread posts being "right on spot" sort of thing... consider these additional factors, *before* you make snap judgements.....

 
1.) The provider may have a home or discretion situation that simply does not allow for a lot of in-call traffic... and also they may be a newer provider and just trying to get started and may not have reviews yet, but may need one, either good or bad.    ....In my case, i left a very nice apartment/condo close to the city last year, and moved out into the countryside to a much nicer home, but - it's also much further out from the main city center, and in a nicer neighborhood, so i am not as comfortable now with having as many people here on a regular basis for a variety of personal and professional reasons....  i used to see a *Lot* of people at my place, but that has changed, and so therefore have my personal standards and practices - for the better, i might add.... and now seeing even more high quality of people, than i was before...

2.) The provider may actually prefer out-calls, as they typically reward higher, and often involve a more mature & executive type of potential client, than the million requests we may get from everyone else that might be seeking a quick and cheap session or rushed session, especially if you are a more executive or real GFE type companion, and would wish to screen out more/most of that kind of traffic & inquiry... Also i have found that many of the highest quality people i have ever connected with on out-calls, may also wish to plan ahead, and may make inquiries days, or even weeks or months ahead of arriving here in the DC/MD/Va area, which is *Really* great for a whole variety of reasons, including future scheduling, and planning time in the city with friends or family i might not have otherwise had, unless i was already there...

3.) It may also denote that the provider has a higher self-confidence/looks/ability to be discreet level,  and would never worry about walking into an upscale hotel...and - wouldn't that be preferable to *most* of you fellows out there on travel that require real discretion sometimes, and would also prefer a more professional & confident girl to arrive at your hotel or suite door instead of someone that maybe stands out like a sore thumb ?

4.)  The provider may have a variety of "normal" mainstream jobs and interests in a specific region or area close to the highest concentration of hotels and businesses, and that may also make it easier for them to reach you, when you try to set a date or appointment, especially on short/no-notice....     for me, this also works, as i live and often work my corporate job in the DC area, but i live pretty far outside the main city areas, out in the countryside - which on both accounts, may make it easier to book dates as opposed to losing them,...... because someone is say, only in town for a day or two, doesn't have a rental car, and doesn't want to deal with a taxi or uber for a couple hours drive, or a longer round trip, especially in DC traffic (some of the worst in the entire country)...  

5.) Nicer Hotels also mean more (mature) people are around in general, and this goes directly to safety and comfort issues... lots of other people can be reached more quickly (security, other hotel guests, etc) should anything go horribly wrong for some reason....
 
6.) and everyone is different.... some may even just simply prefer the greater adventure of out-calls, especially to the nicer more upscale hotels, especially if you like to travel (which i do)... i typically drive a luxury sedan or nicer suv, *and* i love to drive, so that's not an issue for me either.... sometimes it is also a very considerate thing to do for someone - it makes it so much easier for a potentially good/executive/corporate kind of person/client, to simply not have to worry about taking a bus, or train, cab, or uber to god knows where in the city, as opposed to being able to stay in the comfort of their room and have the fun & companionship come to them....    

....Other valid reasons for being totally ok with mainly out-calls only, girls?

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