I always drop my donation, keys, cell phone on the counter where it is visible and excuse myself to the bathroom.

This gives the provider chance to count the donation and put it away.  Been doing it for over 10 years...

it puts the escort at ease. Then depending on the circumstances, either a quick shower or freshening up so the provider can check the  donation if she wants to.   I do remember one thread where a certain well known  "hobbyist" mentioned he gives the donation at the end. His reply led to one fo the classic threads on TER.

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with repeat meetings, I go old school...  after...  it helps the gentle illusion.   I'll use my Favs as an example.  She'll place chair beside her dresser to recieve my clothes.  Just as I would at home, I like to remove my pocket junk which goes neatly on the dresser.  I have the correct donation in a paper clip in my pocket.  So it goes on the dresser under my stuff.  When I redress, it is silently left behind.  
Some ladies will invisibly pocket it in the back & forth of dressing & bathroom while others will leave it in place until I've gone.   One young provider (apparently had been burned) swooped in conspiciously to pick it up...  rather off putting.

But I am never offended if those providers ask for the donation upfront.

It's just good business.

my keys and cell phone on top of the envelope. When I leave, I pick up the keys and cell phone.

If a lady is coming to my hotel room, the envelope is usually leaning against the ice bucket unless she requests the envelope be left in the restroom.

After an intense session I'm likely to forget! I think it also might make the provider more relaxed if everything is up front.

Yes, I present the donation before.  If business is done and out of the way the provider doesn't have to worry about this.  Not withstanding if I have seen the lady a few times and trust is built up enough, sometimes the fun starts too quickly and business gets taken care of at the end.  Usually generously.

... visits with the providers I have seen, I was never given an opportunity to lay down the donation.

Both times, as soon the door was closed behind me, the provider promptly started doing the DFK and next thing we knew, we were on the bed. I never had a chance to get the donation out of my coat.

So... if you are one of those ladies that likes to start kissing even before the guy gets a chance to take off his coat... don't worry... you'll get your donation.

It's not intentional, it happens that way.

In my 12 years of hobbying, I always given the ladies the donation, it's irrelevant if it's before or after.

Serpius

I usually set it down in an obvious place, often when she can see me doing it.  If she is in a hotel room and has her computer set up, I will put it on the computer or near it.  If it's a first visit to a provider, I do not want her wondering if I'm going to not leave it and be worried about that all the time I'm there.  It's better if she is relaxed, and I let her do her thing to relax me.....LOL

Swim

Before.  Unless the lady's site says to do it differently, I place it in an unsealed plain white envelope in plain view on the dresser.

And while we're on the subject, isn't it a tad ludicrous that in a nation which is supposedly built on freedom that consenting adults who want to have sex have to hide behind euphemisms and go through so much nonsense simply because one party is pay... uh, excuse me... donating for it?

Seems like it to me.

No need to be even asked. I want to concentrate on the beautiful lady in front of me, and I want her to be focused on me.

when he puts down the envelope...most guys here have common courtesy. As far as newbies go, they pay upfront, or will be shown the door. Do you really want a gal thinking the entire time "Is he going to short me or rip me off?" Well, that is why most guys with common sense pay before they pump. It is a bit hard to be relaxed and giving 100 percent, when you don't know if you're even going to be paid for the job you just did. Homey don't play that.

I prefer that they have it at the beginning of our time together. Not necessarily hand it to me but to know it is there on a table is always a nice touch. Or in the bathroom for me when I go to freshen up. It makes things less ackward and it needs not even be discussed.

However, once I know someone I have waited until after. It all depends on the circumstances.

I got home and I realized the envelope was in my back pocket. I was totally panicked as I was a newbie at the time. I called/texted/emailed her and she was very nice about. We met for lunch the next day and took care of it. WE even met for lunch again.

You are the one who posted before (on more than one occasion) that you ALWAYS pay after.
And from things I have read elsewhere, seems like you "forgot" to pay at all a few times.

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Or this one for that matter....He is after all blockymcdouchbag now...

Because he wants us to think he is ignoring us, but I don't believe he is really ignoring us. He craves the attention, and I think he HAS to read our posts. In any case, it doesn't matter. I don't care if he reads it. The OP of the thread and others can read my post and decide for themselves what to think about serptard. If I was really concerned about him reading it, I would have posted it using an alias, since he can't ignore aliases.

You sir, always seem to have a great perspective on things being discussed here and I always appreciate your post.  But please don't take issue with the young lady for being inconspicuous with the donation.  I've also seen mention of this in reviews (guys not appreciating the lady swooping/counting donation in their presence). If every guy handled things like Curly, it would be awesome. There was a girl ripped off recently in my area and when it was all said and done, she was at fault because she didn't want to upset her client by checking the envelope. She spent hours with the guy only to be robbed. As someone fairly new to this, I need to be certain I'm taken care of so that I can focus on my guy. I mean really its hard to be sexy and worried at the same time. And honestly, bs and stress would affect my performance and arousal.  Just because you are a gentleman doesn't mean all or most guys are. I  know a  girl who completed a date and the guy forcefully took his money back smh. Basically, I second Ms.Mocha's sentiment there will be no action until I've secured my donation.

A few weeks into my providing experience, I met with a polite, articulate, friendly, man for a multi-hour session. He initially requested Outcall, since he'd loaned his truck to someone, who was now a few hundred miles away.  I was given his home address and he later shared a great deal of info. about the company where he was a partner too.

My car decided to give me trouble that night, but he conveniently found keys to "truck-borrower's" car. When he arrived at my upscale hotel location, he enjoyed a lovely buffet I setup for him and polished off a bottle of my wine too.

At the end of our visit(almost sunup), he acted quite agitated while poking his hand in and out of his backpack. No effort was made to actually look inside or better yet, empty the contents to locate....you guessed it, his WALLET. "OMG! I can't believe I forgot to take my wallet out of my truck"! Facepalm.

Of course, he had very important business meetings scheduled all day and had to get going immediately. Mm-hmm. I almost laughed out loud when he promised to call by mid-morning, dash to the bank and arrange to get the donation to me. I'd like to know which bank hands over cash to customers with no identification or ATM card in their possession. The International Bank of BS, perhaps?

First, shame on me for not using common sense. This is MY business and I take full responsibility for the outcome.

Bottom line though, this man had no fear of behaving in such a despicable manner, despite the fact I had an enormous amount of his personal information. All of it was easily verifiable too.  

Okay, that was someone I'd never seen before. Not long after, that someone I liked and had met with previously, shorted me in a sealed envelope, which he pulled out at the end while saying, "I don't know how much to give you. Is "X" amount okay?"  WHAT?

Those of you who are respectful enough to discreetly take care of this issue at the beginning of your visit, are true gems. It is awkward to request anyone take care of this or have it in the back of my mind when I'd prefer to focus on making our time together a very special experience.  It's even worse, when you realize you've given your all to someone who has so little respect for you.
             
(HH, I'd like to read that thread you mentioned.  Any hint on where I could find it or even keyword suggestions to search? )

I want the lady to feel completely at ease and comfortable. One way I know to do so is to take care of the donation imediately. When I'm at an incall, after the greeting I drop the donation and then visit the shower. On an outcall I always leave it on the bathroom sink, all ladies I've seen for outcalls visit the restroom after the greeting.

she was very classy and actually took me out for lunch later.

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I got home and I realized the envelope was in my back pocket. I was totally panicked as I was a newbie at the time. I called/texted/emailed her and she was very nice about. We met for lunch the next day and took care of it. WE even met for lunch again.

That was nice of her.