It has been quite a number of years since I was in the hobby, and I am getting my feet wet again.  I am finding something that I have not seen when I was last active 5-10 years ago.  A lot of women are asking for pre-payment in the form of paypal or gift cards.  I have refused all of them thinking that it is a scam, but it is so prevalent that  I wanted to ask.  I am sorry if this is an old topic, but I could not find any discussion when I did a quick search.  Are these all scams, or is this the new way of doing business?  I have an appointment tomorrow with a provider who did not ask for anything like this, which leads me to believe that pre-payment is a scam, but I wanted to ask.

I think we've always prepaid at time of service. Money up front.

There are lots of scam artists who do this but also some really reputable providers requiring deposits, and occasionally, full prepayment these days.  Some accept these payments via CashApp, Venmo or cryptocurrency while others only use gift cards.  Again, it varies.  

Until you get a couple of current refs, but there are plenty of ladies that will take a booking without a deposit.  If you are going to pay a deposit to ease back into the scene, make sure its a well reviewed provider that would be concerned about her reputation from a bad review.  Forget about girls with a "no-reviews" policy.  That is a scam waiting to happen.  Personally, I would never pay a deposit unless I was booking more than 3 hours.  But that is party because I always have two recent references I can use.

Don’t do it. You put yourself at risk and so many ways. I would handicap the providers that will scam you, blackmail you, any kind of negative action at over 50%. If they want a deposit I don’t bother

The problem for clients is that while more and more providers demand prepayment, those not doing so may see an increase in honest clients, but also an increase in dishonest clients, making them more motivated to also demand prepayment. A vicious spiral.

If NO ONE would pre pay then women would get the hint and stop asking/demanding. The more guys that lack the stones to stand their ground, the more emboldened the Twatter crowd will be to continue to demand pre payment. THAT is the vicious spiral, and every guy who has ever sent a deposit can blame himself in part for the growing number of women that now demand prepayment.  

...and don't intend to do so.

nonsense, ask nice and many if not most will see you
nothing wrong with asking
if not, see somebody else
it is not at all SOP

I respect your deposit requirement, but your last statement is completely false.  I've never paid a deposit and have seen many providers who 'require' them.  I've only had an issue with a provider holding firm once.  I politely moved on.

And that is EXACTLY the problem with the way many hookers choose to do business. EVERYTHING is slanted in their favor and there is zero recourse for the customer in case of a dispute or even outright fraud.  

Simple don’t see those who want deposits. Plenty of high quality ones who don’t.

Will never again after doing so with 25% of fee. Her cancelling with excuse after excuse promising to refund the amount and nothing. To those who do so good for you yet I will never again to do.

I agree with GG, I did a deposit once, and even though I got my deposit back after she was a nc/ns ,it took awhile, I don’t need the stress in my life, not to mention she tried to gave me a lecture about the hobby and how the providers have so much more to lose then the client s ,but like a couple of guys have said on here ,if guys would stop paying deposits, then providers would stop asking, we do have the power to change the way providers do business!

I don't like dealing with deposits your accounts and money are always at risk of being shut down due to using them for SW but atleast with deposits you're never at a loss for the cost of your hotel room or travel due to clients canceling or nc/ns. Blame the fellows that ruin it for everyone not the providers.

Bullshit.  Probably less than 5% of providers request a deposit.  Many providers that claim to always require one do not or waive the requirement.  

I have never done one, but I am thinking about a meet with the notorious “Cat” from OC who will meet near LAX if I make a c-note deposit! She has 68 reviews, and she seems very reliable - not to mention extremely hot! Is it crazy to guarantee a spot with her for a meet?

If you want this trend of Hookers DEMANDING prepayment that is.

Besides the obvious danger of getting ripped off, I don't need the added anxiety of having to worry about it all the way up to the session.

feel free to share your real name if an alias bothers you so
the man is right, there is never a need to pay a deposit

Yes, a lot of people try using that argument when they are losing the debate.

seems to me that you are showing your ass
like a lot of dumb ladies on Twitter

So many hookers like yourself try to convince clients, both experienced and new, that Deposits are somehow the "industry standard" and that if they plan on seeing hookers that they should get used to it. And quite frankly that is complete and total BULLSHIT. I have NEVER sent a deposit and most smart mongers have never done so either, you claiming it's now SOP doesn't make it so. You get to have your say and we get to have our say and the mongering community can make up their own mind whether to give in to the demands of hookers like you or not.

when it comes to deposits. . . . .

Most experienced hobbyists will never pay a deposit. Most professional providers know that experienced hobbyists will not pay a deposit and don't require one.  A provider is free to ask for a deposit, but will be excluding many experienced hobbyists.

Honestly I don't have problems getting deposits, My deposits basically covers the price of getting a place to host. I don't ask for full payment or half of the total date up front but I support the ladies that do because  everyone runs their own biz.  

I agree good biz practice helps the bottom line. However even providers who don't  set out to cheat may have procrastination issues or a distaste for the biz that make them likely to flake at the last minute.

First: As usual, Steph, I agree with everything you said.  

For guys who only know the "woke hooker" Twatter crowd it must really seem like ALL hookers demand deposits, OTOH someone like me who books 99% of my hooker dates through P 411 I run into it so rarely it hardly makes a blip on my radar and about the only time I notice it is when someone comes on this board to whine about it. lol

Gaga just FINALLY admitted that he would pay a deposit when he’s always been preaching and lecturing that he would NEVER EVER pay a deposit.

Respectfully, while I would not pay a deposit under any circumstances, sending a deposit to a provider who is "too broke and can't afford a room" is a risky scenario.

I clearly stated that it would have to be a provider that I both knew and trusted.

A guy in a Carolinas got ripped and the gal asked for a sm deposit. All I had to do was to check her website. She was newish at the time. Not sure if her site is still up.  

I can simply leave a 20 and say I don’t feel well vs sending someone a deposit that looks nothing like they are advertising and be out that money plus blue balls.  

Let me ask you something Mister Stalker, do you EVER plan on simply leaving Deb alone?

Gambler always had an equal concomitant of street smarts.  He knows when game recognizes game.

I experienced this first hand. This one girl I used to see way back in the day would ask for deposits, and then the day of the date if she didn’t have enough additional clients to justify renting a room she would reschedule my session for another day, and would not give me back my money. I learned to stop doing that after the second time.  

A well known Adult Star, Karen Fisher, asked for a $100 deposit when she toured my area.  I didn't end up seeing her since the days didn't work for me but I trusted her that I would have sent it vs. some random lady on Eros.  
Another PS that wanted deposits was Ayana Angel.  And if she didn't get enough pre-bookings she would cancel her trip and refund you.  She is one woman I was hoping to meet.  

Amen  
   I never give upfront money, use gift cards or make deposits. I came close until I realized I was being scammed. Chances are you bit on a stolen picture in the ad and are texting some hood rat or a half educated idiot.

The scammers have the same lame reasons for demanding pre payment;; ---Counterfeit money , preventing client from not showing up, proof that that client is not LE, and the provider's safety and security. They probably attended the same fraud and scam seminar.

You continue to dredge up this unfounded lie from a delusional hooker. You like to turn my replies into being about Deb when they’re not. Just like the one you replied to here. Let it go dude. You sound like an extremely jealous new boyfriend. You're completely delusional. Go over it already.  

Pathetic, truly pathetic.

Ummm "delusional hooker" is about Deb, and her name appears in the post.  Kind of a cheap shot.  

Ahhh .....we have a disagreement.  I posted about 5 min ago suggesting that folks keep these kind of issues private or post in the review of the lady in question.  If the lady is new, does not have an established rep and is not in the TER review pool, yes call her out.

Same thing happened to me with Layla Hayek