There seem to be a tremendous number of providers with implants. While sometimes they can look quite nice, to me at least, usually they don't and never feel good to the touch. But maybe that's just me, but I have read a number of reviews where hobbyists also write something negative about the provider's implants or that in general they usually don't like them. There are also of course other reviews where they have marveled at the provider's breasts.

So I'm wondering why so many women get them done. Is it in belief that many hobbyists prefer the larger augmented breasts and it will therefore increase their client base, or instead that they do it for themselves and expect to feel better about their own bodies with the enhancements?

And for those that have had it done for whatever reason, are you happy with the decision today?

It's hard to say whether it's because most hobbyists like larger breasts, and don't care if they're natural, or whether the "pro-implant" voices are just louder, creating the perception that they represent the majority.

I love natural myself. I'd rather see natural and flat-chested, than fake and huge.  Hell, I'd rather see a woman without make-up but I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority there.

Do providers see an increase in business after implants?

When I was in my last year of high school, all of a sudden I got these huge boobs.  I hated them.  I was only 4'11 when I graduated and I felt like a weeble...anytime I talked to anyone, their eyes never rose above my chest.  

By my 10 year reunion, I had lost almost a cup size.  I was extatic!  Everyone was wondering where they went..lol  My 20 year reunion, after 2 kids, they were were they are now.  Of course, everyone thought I had a reduction.  

I have thought about getting "something" done, but my fear is I will have the ever so popular "grapefruits in a sock" look, or worse..the "3 inch cleavage with grapefruits in a sock" look....no thank you!  I would love to have the natural "fullness" back on top so I didnt have to wear a bra all the time...but I refuse to have those hard lines seperated by 3 inches that is SO freakin unnatural looking.  Ill take my little titties anyday.

And quite honestly...I have been told by at least 85% of my clients L O V E natural.  No matter how small...they say sucking on a natural tit is more pleasurable that sucking on a hard ball.........!!  And they thank me for leaving them as they are.

I know it is a "confidence" booster for womem who have lost theirs...but believe me, the guys like natural many times over the Pamela "makes me wanna dry heave" look.

Theres just something about laying down, and have your tits stand straight up...hell, when I was 22 and had rock hard tits...they still fell to the side when I laid down....pu - leeez!  LOL

I think women in general would be surprised at how many guys prefer the natural look, whatever that look is.

I have implants. I didn't get them done for anyone else but me. I certainly wouldn't do it for anyone else and it would never be with a thought of getting them to please hobbyists. That's just silly. I wouldn't undergo major surgery for any hobbyist.

Before I got them done, my friends with implants always said that it was the best thing they ever did for themselves and I had no idea what they were talking about until I got them done.

Not all implants are hard and funny looking. Mine are quite soft and natural looking. In fact, if I didn't tell people, they wouldn't know they were fake. I've had civvies blissfully unaware that they were fake until I mentioned something.

I have a favorite whom I would never have guessed had implants until I saw a picture of her taken before hand.  

There is another favorite whom I was quite certain had implants but they are so natural feeling that they are very hard to detect.

I think the bottom line is whether the woman herself feels good about them.  If so, then they are a good idea.

It's about self confidence and self image. You have to have known a woman who was self concious about her own body image go through the transformation into a self confidant woman after the implants. It is a wonderful thing. If you have small boobs and are happy, more power to you, but I'm all for big, soft, happy boobs. Yeah Boobs!

NSF

I have my own opinion why women get them, especially when they say "I did it just for me", but it is only an opinion, so how would I know?

However, I completely agree...I would rather see natural and flat chested than fake and huge or not huge...as well as I would rather see women without make up (but yes, we are in the minority...but not as much of a minority as you might think).

The "I did it just for me" line is very valid. I got mine before I engaged in this extra curricular activity and my bf at the time didn't care whether my boobs were big or not. I would honestly never get them for anyone else but me because I have to live with them and I have to undergo the surgery, not anyone I felt was judging me.

However, as someone who has a large group of friends with implants, here's a list of a variety of the actual reasons that led some of us girls to get them...

to fix a slight abberation (one larger, malformed, really saggy, whatever...)
cancerous lump found and implants to rebuild the former glorious breasts
improve self esteem, feel better in clothes
severe car accident
like the look of big tits on a small frame
to restore her boobs after childbirth and nursing deflated them
felt insecure and thought that it would help her with a modeling career


The reality is, unless you ask the lady yourself you really won't have any clue as to why she got them. There are so many reasons that people do things and this is something many women do for themselves, for their own body image, self esteem, etc...

I don't have implants myself and never considered them, but I think a woman should make a decision about implants based on how SHE feels about them, not how men perceive them.  After all, the only person a woman has to please looks back at her in the mirror.

I discussed getting implants with a number of clients and nearly all of them encouraged me not to do it. My SO at the time didn't want me to do it either. I had children early and never got to enjoy my large, perky breasts. So I had surgery to help out with the "larger" aspect at least. I had some extra skin and tissue there from having gone from a D to an A cup over time and was thus a good candidate. They look quite natural and aren't nearly the hard-as-rocks kind. I still have natural tissue all around them which helps out.

And I DO feel better about myself- I love them. I didn't expect perfection going in- I knew they'd never be perky again and I knew that my surgeon could only work with what was given. Hell, even large youthful breasts end up with some effects of gravity. I enjoy being able to fill out a bra and I enjoy the cleavage. I like having larger breasts.

I mentioned in a post below that I also knew going in that I could lose a lot of feeling- and I did. On the one hand, I do miss the sensations I got before, but on the other- I better appreciate the sensations I have left! That part of my surgery is definitely taking some getting used to- but I find it fun and interesting to have to try new, different techniques of playing with them.

One of the downsides to going to a D is finding nice bras that fit well. The Victoria's Secrets I go to never have my size in stock- and I hate ordering most clothes online. It's a little more difficult, but I manage

In all, I know I disappointed some people, but like I said, I got them for MYSELF and don't really care what others think about them, so long as I'm happy (and I am).

You seem skeptical that a woman would get them for herself- how come?

...is intended to impress other women, not men, so the reality of it is that fake breasts simply need to look good under clothing. She doesn't give a rats ass how they look or feel to you -- all she cares about is making other women envious.

Tell her they look marvelous. A happy provider is a good provider.

I specifically said "...so how would I know?" because I didn't want anyone to think I was overstepping my bounds on this subject, as I am not a woman.  

It isn't that I can't see that a woman would do this "for herself", as AWLNO wondered.  Items #1, 2, 4, 6 above are "understandable" reasons for this, although they are mostly related to vanity, as they don't change the "biological functionability" of the breasts (as opposed to something like Viagra, for example...or KY jelly).

My point is that almost all the women I have known who augmented their breasts did so exactly because of your point #3 (or #5...or #7), which you reiterated at the end by saying "for their own body image, self esteem, etc".  To me, this is like wearing a toupee, which is almost universally disdained.  The main difference is that large breasts get noticed, and anything less than attractive breasts are looked down upon in our super-vain society.  It isn't that they make their actual biological function any better...if anything, it is often worse, because of the impact of unnatural weight/size on the woman's frame. It is that as breasts are viewed by western culture as such a visually erotic part of the body (as opposed to most aboriginal cultures, for example), they come under scrutiny as something that can make you look "better" or "worse", and once the possibility of implants appeared, there it went.

I have a big problem with adding something to your body that is fake. It is holistic sacrilage.  It's one thing to exercise and work with what you have (although that can easily be taken to extremes), and obviously, it is anyone's right to do so if that's what they want, but I see very little difference between breast augmentation for "self esteem" or "body image" reasons and wearing a toupee.  

Just my opinion...

I went from an Acup to a Ccup and a year later went to a DDcup. It was worth the pain and the money and I would encourage anyone to get them...but ONLY if SHE wants them.

I was a dancer when I first got them. I was pleased that my money DOUBLED immediately afterwards but that was not the reason I did it.  I LOVE my new titties!



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I understand that there can be many circumstances that would prompt a woman to get implants.  However, I'm skeptical about self-esteem as a conclusive answer.

We tend to treat individuals as if we got our sense of value and self-worth all on our own; as if we self-contained individuals not affected by the values of our larger culture.

Imagine if we lived in a culture with different values.  A culture where women with smaller breasts were considered much more desirable than women with larger breasts.  In this culture, flat-chested women are considered the hottest women around.  How many women would still get breast enlargements "for themselves?"

We don't acquire our values by having someone tell us what to do.  We acquire them through unconscious assimilation.  No one has to tell you what kind of look counts as beautiful and what doesn't.  From infancy on, we are bombarded with images and people's reactions to them.  It's not a 100% process, we all have different combinations of ideas, but there are general tendencies that are pervasive.  If you ask most people why they believe what they believe about certain topics many will say they don't know.  Some will say "I was brought up that way" which amounts to the same thing -  they've never thought about it.   Ask why people think certain things are beautiful and certain ones are not and you'll get those kind of answers.

We largely create our self-images through our interactions with others, even if we're not aware of it.  We like to believe that our ideas are completely unique and self-generated but that's not possible if we want to live in society.  A large degree of acculturation is necessary and the less we think about it the more successful it is.

Why don't you post w/o your alias, chicken shit?

I'm getting mine NEXT WEEK!!!

In answer to the original posters question.  

We get them because we want bigger boobs... duh.  Giggle  

I'm a large B and I mainly want a fuller shape.  I'll probably end up a large C or small D.  And for those who don't know, I'm a TS but it's the same thing.

The one thing I DON'T want is the kind where people see you and say, "Wow - what a great boob job..."

I want them to say, "What?  You have implants?"

And as for hobbyists - I did a national poll on here and other sites and probably 90% of the guys who'd seen me or my videos said "don't do it."

But it's for me.  I want bigger boobies!

Giggle,
TS Jamie

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anybody likes boobs that will eventually sag.  I'd rather have a perky bee sting, than a saggy C cup.  I  ain't fucking her nipples.

alias thing. And it appears to be the same on this board as it is on others. You could be a well respected reviewer or provider and spew whatever crap you want and still maintain your so-called respectable status by the use of an alias. Shameful. -e

"I have a big problem with adding something to your body that is fake. It is holistic sacrilage."

I feel the same way about clothes! And I take it that you don't like piercings or tattoos either? As I said, I had children early- too early. So the way that I see it is that they aren't so much "fake" as the way they should have been in the first place!

Joking aside, it seems like anything could fit into what you are saying above. There isn't much in our lives that ISN'T fake- the fact that you're here on this site communicating is evidence of that. You're here debating. Wouldn't you say that the essential reason for your doing so is for "self esteem"? (Something like the "selfish gene" theory- anything we do is to "better" ourselves [or feel better about ourselves?] and thus be more likely to pass on "successful" genes.)(At least I think that's what that theory says...)

EDIT: Isn't positive self-esteem "sacred"? At least to those of us who may have had no self-esteem in the past, I think it is.


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Unless a woman has only nipples, whatever she has WILL SAG no matter what! I see 20yr old girls with long saggy tits! That is another advantage with implants....they will eventually settle into the pocket and look and feel natural (read my reviews, mine are that way after my last surgery 6mos ago) and even when I am in my 70's and 80's, they will still be 'perky'.

They only feel hard and unnatural when a girl/woman decides to go cheap with her plastic surgeon. The saying 'you get what you pay for' applies to implants too.

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I have said this a few times to different women in my life. Tits are wonderful and beautiful no matter what size. What makes anyones tits great is if they let me touch them or not.

No matter what the size, tits are always better if I can touch them. When anyone gets any kind of alteration to their body it is totally up to them and no one else's business.

b-

Draw whatever conclusion you want, but think that says it all.

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As far as boobs go, I screen out fake boobs when I do a search most of the time.  I HATE them.  

When they are used just to increase size, they tend to be hard and I don't care to pay to fondle a ball of plastic.  Just my preference.

Now possibly modern medicine has improved in the last 20 years so that this is not as much a problem as it was.  Or in cases like after childbirth and the skin is such that it can handle the increased size without stretching the skin too much, that might work.  I usually don't want to risk the money to find out when big boobs is not what I want.

Now as to makeup... Overly made up is definitely not good, however I like pretty faces and if makeup can help, that's a good thing.

I don't much care as long as it's a tasteful job, and matches the woman's frame. The problem is you get these 'spinners' trying to get double DD's, and that's a problem. As long as it makes sense , I have no issue. If your 5'2 103, with an F cup, maybe that would get in the way, though I'd still fight through it

-M

YEP

I can't understand why anyone would want to alter their body just so it can look good.

Do providers see an increase in business after implants? I wouldn't know because I'm all natural and vehemently against plastic surgery.

Every instance of breast reduction surgery I know about is motivated by physical discomfort.  The woman suffers back pain due to very large breasts and needs a reduction for relief.  I have not yet heard of a woman who underwent this procedure just for the emotional satisfaction of feeling good about themselves.

Why would they?  Our culture is one that considers size to be a measure of value.  Even though many women say they don't like guys with huge cocks, we still like assert how big our cocks are.

My point in bringing this up is to show that our motivations are strongly influenced by social norms.  Those of you who got implants even when those closest around you argued against it say that it is proof that you weren't motivated by outside opinions. But I think you partially were.  You did it for society-wide approval.  Those who love you will learn to accept it and you will get positive attention from everyone else.

Those with naturally large breasts already know that getting a reduction will not make guys' heads turn.

That I prefer natural A cups....I also like tummies with a little curve, nice butts, soft shoulders and big brown eyes but none of this matters if the lady who owns these assets doesn't know how to turn me on.  Sexiness comes from within. If implants will give a gal more self esteem and confidence so be it.

I frankly find it comical that any male would pretend to know how a woman feels about her own self-image. Please stop kidding yourselves guys, we all have no clue...For the record, most women don't give a rats ass about how much hair we have on our heads but some off us spend thousands on any manner of hair replacement...why?

I've actually known very few escorts with bolt-ons but it's never been a deal breaker for me. When I choose a lady it's based on what is written about her and on a vibe I get from her site, her pics, or whatever other info is available. One of my favorite ladies, now retired, had implants but her profile stated that she didn't. I shudder to think about all the great times I would have missed with a truly great lady if her profile had been accurate and I had passed on her simply because I prefer natural breasts.

I have my preferences, obviously we all do. I prefer not to get hung-up on judging the ladies based on individual physical characteristics but I know that many men do. As with many things in this hobby I guess it comes down to weather you view it as paying for sex or compensating a beautiful woman for her time...




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Although I was referring to women in this case, I was making a larger point about how we all form self-images.  Anyone who thinks that their ideas about anything, even themselves, is completely internally generated is mistaken.

You raise the question: "For the record, most women don't give a rats ass about how much hair we have on our heads but some off us spend thousands on any manner of hair replacement...why?" [btw, I think its comical that you say that we have no clue know how women feel and then proceed to tell us how women feel].  Exactly my point.  We don't always know why we do what we do so we go for the easy out and tell ourselves "because I like it".  It doesn't answer the question but it's lot easier than reflecting on the sources of our beliefs and our attachments to them.

I'm not saying the psychological effects of getting implants aren't real, that women don't actually feel better about themselves.  But the issue of motivation did come up and I for one think it's more comlipcated and interesting than expressing a set of preferences.

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use of aliases! I love it. I hope you won't mind but I'll be quoting you in future discussions when it seems appropriate. Thanks!

My statement about most women not caring about how much hair we have on our heads is based on what real live women have said to me over the years. It is not my opinion of what they may or may not be thinking.

I don't think anyone here is saying that any person's self image is completely internally generated....at least I'm not.  What I am saying is that a man can not realistically put himself in a woman's shoes when it comes to knowing what her opinion of herself is.

Chat boards are a wonderful thing DF, you can post about what you find "interesting" and so can I.

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Some women just don't have good breasts. I've seen irregular breasts, scrawny breasts - and even though I don't like false breasts as much as real ones, my current lady has breasts I paid for and I like them much better than before!

Yes false tits aren't the best, but if a lady hasn't got good ones they're the best alternative.

The best provider with natural breasts I've (we've) seen is Leah Ireland. Gorgeous big handfuls!

but she was just a civilian who wasn't in the adult industry, so she only had her own opinion to contend with.

Well, for the record, no, in general I don't like piercings or tattoos...and I also feel the same way about clothes.  The difference is that implants can't just be taken off and put back on like these things...when you take off everything , they are still there, unless you have them surgically removed.  Big difference.

It's none of my business what anyone chooses to do to make your body look however they want. It is just my personal preference, and if I was your husband/BF/father of your kids/whatever, I wouldn't have cared about the "battle scars" from early child rearing... but again, it's your body, and that's just how *I* feel.  I know many men would feel differently.

I went through something similar with my ex-GF of nine years, as she who seldom wore makeup and often didn't shave anywhere on her body for months at a time all of the sudden decided while we were apart late in the relationship and trying to decide what we were going to finally do, decided (to my consternation but reluctant acceptance) that she was going to get implants because she felt her breasts sagged too much because she didn't wear bras enough when she was young.  When she had it done, they turned out bigger than she had hoped they would be, and the difference was pronounced from how she had been to what she was, and her self esteem actually went DOWN, along with my a chunk of my attraction to her.

As for my communicating here being "fake", I don't follow you.  These are my true thoughts and feelings, and no, I am not venting them to come away feeling sanctimonious.  What I say here will make little difference here, if any.  It is just an exchange of thoughts, and if we are honest about our views, I don't see how that is being "fake".

I do agree with the selfish gene theory, but is anything that increases positive self-esteem sacred?  Well, that's up to the person, but in my book, not if something that was indigenous to the person/world has to be destroyed in the process.  

Again, though...just my opinion...

Also, I have heard, or read, women say that it improved their self-image.

Size does matter.

I once explained this theory to a man who couldn't fathom why women would get their nails done, etc... to impress other women. It's cool that it's something you get. To add to that, though, it's not the main reason, but it's a reason in the back of some women's minds just the same.

Katie

Even as someone in the adult industry, my opinion is the only one I contend with. I could care less if 1 million hobbyists told me what I should do or shouldn't do with my body. It's my body and ultimately, I'm going to do what I want with it and no one else has a say. End of story.

Katie

I know if I were to get implants my business would decrease.  Guys tell me all the time half the reason they see me is because I have the small, natural breast, which are hard to find anymore.  Everyone gets implants for their own reasons, and I even tried to once.  Paid for them and all, day of surgery I walked out lol.  I am so glad now, that I was scared.

Tasha

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"Just for me" seems,the best reason.  Example from my experience:  Beautiful lady, perfect breasts with initial implants.  Then she got a second set from C to double D.  IMHO the originals were best.  I asked her why, and she said "bigger is better."  The twister for me was that she saved the original set.

Is that for other women too?

The bigger the tits, the bigger the tips.

I could be wrong of course, but I would be very surprised if the primary motivator for almost all women working in the sex industry wasn't money. It's an investment. Improved self esteem is a side benefit for some.

Don't think I'm talking about the motivations of every woman, or every sex worker. I'm not saying that commercial motivations are paramount in every woman. It does stand to reason, though, that if you like the way you look with larger breasts, more than likely clients do too.

For many sex workers, though, it is just business. They sometimes get rather poor enhancements. Like Jenna Jameson retiring and immediately getting her enhancements removed. She definitely did not look better with those enhancements, and they evidently did nothing for her self-image.

and articles they write, and IM's, and PM's-- different women, BTW. Not to mention women I've dated who've commented about it. That tends to sway my judgment and causes me to pass on what I've been able to gather about it. Whether you find it believable or not, I think my posts about it are pretty well informed.

If someone has plastic surgery under ANY motivation other than her own peace of mind and sense of self, then it is usually messed up...........

It doesn't apply to everything. I don't like hair (other than what's on my head.) I don't like the feel of it, so I wax or shave. Either way, it's for me and for good hygeine reasons, but there are some things that women do to keep up with other women, impress other women, etc... Peer pressure is a bitch.

Katie

I like this topic. I will say that most hobbyists would NOT Want implants because I think in general we are more open minded people that also have multiple options. If we are choosing a specific provider, it's because we like them the way they presented themselves. As you said, society itself, perfers that a woman has a bigger chest. The 'benefits' the girls keep speaking of here is anything from, more pay at work, to better looking and richer SO's, to more money for tips and services. There are really no 'cons' from their perspective. I am really neutral on the whole thing, if they are tastefully done, that is fine. I can think of at least 20 adult actresses that ruined themselves with them though, most of them petite spinners.

-m

Katie, we love a clean-shaven woman too ya know. You're supposed to have soft silky skin (it's in those unwritten rules somewhere). That's why we love running our hands all over you.