We met at his place near twilight and drank a glass of wine overlooking a lovely wooded creek, then went to see his art gallery installation and charmingly hob-knobbed a good sale and another prospect.  Afterwards, we walked down the street and had a marvelous indian meal (under $30, so I let him catch the tab), then meandered over to a divey bar and I bought him a drink.
We retired back to his place for an amazing evening and just as nice a morning - toys, towels, and a shared shower were required.  We split ways after going to a bakery coffee shop and reading the newspaper together.

Do any of you gents enjoy such evenings with companions?
; )

With companions as in providers?  Nope.  Sounds lovely though!
With companions as in civies?  Nope.  Sounds lovely though!

Was this a first date?

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..NO, I can only afford 1 hour dates!!

yes, if you can afford the donation and the time, it is the most satisfying experience possible.

of course, there are "different strokes for different folks;" but in my (limited) experience the woman of ter have a lot more to offer then good sex.  i have been truly fortunate to have spent a night and a morning (and then some) with a few.

Perhaps an evening like this would have been more fun than the gas station (as mentioned in the thread below on civi dates)!

With an escort, waste of time and money.

The date you describe has real connection. A date with an escort doesn't. I'm not paying you to read the paper.

so a civie means a real date with no donations?  Man... what did the guy do to obtain such honor?  Where can I get my freebie?  Do providers look for civis?

I once met a provider friend to loan her something one day.  We met at a restaurant for breakfast at 10.  By 12, we went outside, heading towards the parking lot.  But there was a bench out there, so we sat down again and continued our conversation.  At 4:00 p.m. we realized that the day was shot and I was a horn dog, having been with this beautiful lady all day, that we decided to find a room and have a real session!  Not all providers will do this obviously, but it does happen.  But these providers are in a class of their own.  And real friendships can develop from this hobby.  Life is beautiful...

Whether it's your intent or not, you come across as one bitter man.

I don't mean this to be condecending, I really have a hard time envisioning your view of this business.  Do you look for the quickest, hardest physical ride at the lowest price?

It's obviously not what you are looking for, but maybe if you LET a connection happen you might find it does sometimes.  Or is a past instance of this what is behind your mood?  And even if the Lady drifts away at the end, maybe it would make it a more plesant time when she was there.

Life doesn't get much better than this.
I have a very special ATF who before we started to see each other professionally we enjoyed a picture perfect "Civi" first date together. We still enjoy BOTH civi and hobby dates together and the "lines" that are so often spoke of here have yet to blur.

  FR.

I am not looking for a girlfriend here, I am looking for a GFE.

The sitting and reading the paper, casually looking longingly into each others eyes, is completely ridiculous to me if done with an escort. I have that in my civie life and don't need or want it here.

If it works for you, go for it. Be careful though, and don't buy into the fantasy as real.

No hard feelings.

I still struggle with knowing where to draw the line and would be curious to know how you two are able to make it work.