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Cdickens16 2 Reviews 3132 reads
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1 / 33

I'm trying to arrange some events while i'm in vegas, and a few of the services have asked for verification via a selfie and my drivers license.  I'm very much not comfortable with this for fear of id fraud or extorsion.  

Am I crazy?  Is this standard practice?

hljockey 2 Reviews 76 reads
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2 / 33

I wouldn't provide either one of those to anybody and I can't imagine why anyone would do it.  

I don't think it's standard practice but I've been seeing it a lot lately and I always decline.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 97 reads
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3 / 33

asking for copies of DL.  I have been asked several times, and I redact my license number, my birth date, expiration date (also the same as my birth date but different year) and my address.  Pretty hard to steal your ID without these three items.  75% don't have a problem with it, because they are mainly trying to filter out LE trying to set up a bust.  Once they see I have a CA license, I can't possibly be a local LEO.  Add this to my two excellent references of other providers and it's been a go three fourths of the time.  For the other 25%, I just move on.  

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 93 reads
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4 / 33

I have been a provider for 11 years and have always required this info. Sorry but very unlikely any reputable independent ladies or agencies will book with you without this screening info. Just an FYI, sex work is *illegal* in Vegas. (it is legal in outlying counties in NV). I feel like a broken record here, but police will not ask for any screening info when placing ads to ensnare and arrest as many men as possible. If you go to a legal brothel your ID will still be required to verify you are at least the age of 21, but they do not do any screening. Please also be prepared to pay about twice as much at a legal brothel than you would booking an independent.

followme 75 reads
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5 / 33

My advice/opinion DO NOT do it  

 
2023 = 28

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 85 reads
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6 / 33

Are you speaking about Vegas specifically?

 
I've seen plenty of ladies who screen without a driver's license or personal information.

porterhouse 95 reads
posted
7 / 33

then...

Who did you see that did not ask for ID.

This is what this site is for I thought.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 72 reads
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8 / 33

and it sure is not standard practice in Vegas or anywhere else, on the whole.

 
Some companions will demand it... I simply avoid them and move on to those who accept my P-411 okays, references, etc.

 
It really is a rather small group of gals who are leading a charge for RWI. I personally do not believe that the practice has made anyone safer than the tried and true reference system.  

 
Some will tell you it is for your own safety - total horse manure.  

 
IMO, creating a paper trail of RWI does nothing but put guys at risk, and does not help companions remain safe.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 83 reads
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9 / 33

Just an FYI, we are not asking for your ID to verify if you are LE. I have several clients that are LE and they submit their screening info just like everyone else. We do it to verify who you say you are (be honest!) and also to run a background check. This information is public and free and can be accessed on anyone by anyone. And I also do tell gents to black out all of the info you said as well. The current societal shift is that all sex workers are being trafficked (we aren't) so stings are no longer being targeted at providers, they are now focusing on clients. I can only post so much of this stuff to warn you guys so many times. Use the big head, not the little one. No reputable provider is going to scam you with your name and photo. That is just silliness. All those providers that don't ask for any screening info? Shockingly the vast majority are *not* providers...they are either LE or they are scammers that are going to collect at many gift cards that you yahoos keep sending. Let's work together to keep this industry safe and successful!!!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 84 reads
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10 / 33

You wrote: "Vegas is famous for asking for copies of DL."  Your knowledge is limited to K-girl agencies.  You have no frame of reference for what other Las Vegas agencies require.  Your posts should have a disclaimer that your knowledge is limited to K-girl agencies ONLY.

WICardinalfan 37 Reviews 96 reads
posted
11 / 33

Try paying 3X the indy rate at a brothel.  I got started in the hobby in one years ago.  I still feel like a sap for paying what I did.

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 80 reads
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12 / 33

Look at my reviews and pick any one. None have asked for ID.

 
P411 works wonders and when it doesn't then I've simply used very recent references.

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 98 reads
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13 / 33

Even if a lady has my RWI I can still do her harm. RWI says nothing about the type of person I am. I would think that references, especially recent ones, would provide a higher degree of certainty, although I realize that nothing is 100% perfect.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 75 reads
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14 / 33


END OF MESSAGE

PorkPies 103 reads
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15 / 33

DON'T DO IT. Your real name, where you work, your real age, etc (all the things btw providers won't share with us, but expect us to give to them) has no bearing on how you will conduct yourself when you are all alone with her in a hotel room...references from another provider who has spent time with you will let her know how you behave in such a setting. That is all she needs. If she requires more, she enjoys the thrill of making you chase her and watching you jump through hoops to win her approval.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 97 reads
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16 / 33

But it could happen that you'll get nowhere without it, so it's up to you to make a decision.

 
To me, it's never worth it. My pii stays with me at all times. I'm not disclosing my name, where I live, etc etc to a entity that can extort and blackmail me over an illegal service.

snafu929 20 Reviews 98 reads
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17 / 33

...could you please tell us how you protect clients' information?  What kind of steps do you take to make sure your laptop, tablet or phone aren't compromised with malware or other bugs to gather info as you type it in?  I'm aware of/use bg check platforms for work when hiring and to my knowledge, none have ever taken the steps to ensure me that they've got any kind of in-depth security.    THE difference, my prospective emps are not attempting to engage in any activity that would put them in harms way for future extortion where your clients are doing just the opposite.  

Then, could you tell me what steps all other "reputable providers" who use schedulers, drivers, roommates, boyfriends, pimps, handlers et al have in place for safely aborting all client data???  

If I were a hacker who wanted easy and lucrative prey, I'd stay hidden in every possible traveling or high profile provider's system as long as possible and watch my revenue streams book sessions in live format.  Ride that strategy out for a few months and day dream about the millions in future earnings...

Remember, hitting the delete button only removes the info from your screen.  Personal Info is like water, you just can't destroy it after you use it.  

trimming 35 Reviews 95 reads
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18 / 33

You give me a person's real name and state, I guarantee that I can find other personal information about them!

You just don't give Providers real life information or deposits!

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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19 / 33

If your not sharing your ID how can I verify you are who you say you are?

The truth is guys use other friends accounts to book providers. Anyone can use your TER, P411, and utilize your private residence to see a provider. When I was in College I worked for an Escort Agency & was attacked by a male who was using the bachelor’s hotel room. He was not who he claimed to be. I had to fight to get out of the room. The lady who booked the call was blinded by greed. She does not book for my safety. This is why I do my own homework & require a vetted tribute to safety check. My life is priceless.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 89 reads
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20 / 33

someone who steals your ID can then use your private residence to see a provider?  That sounds hard to believe.  Breaking into someone's home is a good way to get shot.  

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 93 reads
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21 / 33

But how does having a guy's driver's license help you? Do you run a criminal history on them? Even if you do somehow, that's not a guarantee of anything.

 
Every lady has to do what makes her feel comfortable - and so does every client, but I'm a bit mystified at how knowing who the person is keeps you safe. Even if you pass the info onto a friend in case you meet with a sudden end at the client's hands, that doesn't protect you but it would get you some justice.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 97 reads
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22 / 33

if your name is uncommon, but if you have a name where there are thousands of other people with the same name, just narrowing it down to the a state is not going to get you anywhere.  If you redact the city, then it's a fool errant to try to "guess" which hit is the one you are looking for.  If your name is Sylvester Rubelinsky, then don't give your ID, but if it's Joe Jones, you have no worries unless you give your city, too.  In my case, there are over 6000 men who have my same first and last name just in California alone.  How are you going to narrow it down without the city?  That's why I said careful redaction is the key to giving an ID to someone for verification.  For the 25% I have encountered in Vegas who won't allow it, I just move on.

Roman_Bath 6 Reviews 90 reads
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23 / 33

I block out my address. Maybe I should block out my license # and birthdate too. I totally get that ladies need a certain level of reassurance that they will be safe before they meet. I also do my due diligence on the provider too—I don’t just give my info out to anyone. I’m pretty confident they are a legit provider who will provide good service before we meet and I give them any info. Everyone has different tolerances for risk and different ways of evaluating that risk.  Theoretically there could be extortion attempts or certain law enforcement setting up a sting, it’s extremely rare. Personally I am not too worried about someone having my real name or other info—it proves nothing about what happened together, or even that you met at all.

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 85 reads
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24 / 33

You'd be surprised how much info you can get with just a name and state.

snafu929 20 Reviews 93 reads
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25 / 33

Explain to me how you are certain that the provider you have "vetted" is the one getting your info?  You may be relying on her credibility but also a booker, scheduler, boyfriend, roommate etc...but let's not forget the hacker that lives invisibly in her hard drive gathering up revenue streams.

J0e_Fella 35 Reviews 91 reads
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26 / 33

Well, I will throw a challenge flag on this one. Unless the name is so unique, a common name and state alone ain't sufficed. Do a search on John Smith in Maryland. Go!

 
There will be hundreds of results but so what if there were no other details? How would one know that particular John Smith?  

 
Now, if a real phone number and name are being searched, the owner's privacy is now at risk. Yes, privacy info, including the current residence location, can be found most of the time for $0.99 in less than 5 minutes. Lastly, a careless monger, who has everything to lose, using a frequent-used email alone can be detrimental if exposed.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 77 reads
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27 / 33

Your comment is fair, but also pretty far fetched. Of course your personal info is like water, but for you to be 100% completely safe from no one ever getting access to any of your data you would have to live in a cave and never interact with any other human, which I am assuming you don't want to do. I am very open to new ways of screening that would allow me to view prospective client's legal background arrest/warrant/jail time history for my safety, but you are not giving any actual solutions to this dilemma. I want this industry to be fair, transparent, enjoyable, and safe for all parties involved. Please feel free to indicate in detail how you feel this can be achieved.

Devin_D See my TER Reviews 104 reads
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28 / 33

Having reviews and/or verifying through username on TER etc… along w basic info upon first message makes it much much easier to verify. From a providers perspective, it is also rude and inappropriate to refuse to verify your info so that we feel safe just like we all want to. It’s frustrating how many guys think it’s ok NOT to do so and therefore send requests to meet without saying anything to verify or able to,  such as “what are your rates?” Or “are you available?” It happens all the time. The more info upon first text/msg the better.  You’re lucky to get even a response if not respectful enough to do that much, imo.

-- Modified on 3/12/2023 2:42:18 AM

georgebensen 101 Reviews 90 reads
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29 / 33
Devin_D See my TER Reviews 111 reads
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30 / 33

It’s really not that much money and not that hard to have a TER handle or P 4 11 as well therefore you get to bypass being questioned for ID, Etc

anony3274931 76 reads
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31 / 33

Not worth it. Plenty of hot reliable ladies that don’t need deposits your DL or your first born. They can fuck off .

DonDosEquis 13 Reviews 106 reads
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32 / 33

I've seen almost 100 providers and never given my real life info.  I've even seen some who claim in this thread they always require it, but never asked me for it.  I've also never had a provider give me her real name on purpose, but one did text me from a new iphone once and it gave me her real name.  I contacted her immediately and told her about it, then tried to forget her name.  Unsuccessfully, as it's an unusual name, but I never have nor never will tell anyone who she is.

In the last 3-4 years I've had fewer than 10 require real life info to see them, so I didn't see them if they persisted.  It's not because I think they'd reveal it on purpose, but once it's out there it only takes one slip and my life would turn to shit.  Which is not worth it, regardless of how hot she is, imo.  I do find it odd that if they insist on it they don't post it on their p411 listing in big, bold letters.  It would save them, and guys like me, a lot of time and wasted effort.  I guess maybe they think they'll damage interest in them if they are completely up front about it.

3579655 3 Reviews 103 reads
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33 / 33

This topic never seems to go away.

Just move on if asked for real personal information, you're not taking out a mortgage.  

I have known real personal info of providers after seeing them for some time, but it was their choice. Some have known mine as well after a while. Trust is earned.

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