Civvy = lack luster performance, too needy, drama... most of the time much more costly.

Hobby gives variety without much of the baggage.  plus it is always exciting to meet new ladies,  it is like going on that first or second date every time.

That isn't to say I'm against civvy dating.
I think it is the natural course of progression when two people hit it off well. civvy or in the hobby.

and I'm more than satisfied with that.

I tried a civie relationship with an old flame about 1-2 years ago, and it was a disaster.

I got married because of what providers COULDN'T offer lol.

I'm retiring shortly due to health reasons BUT my experiences even after marriage don't come close to what i'm rewarded at home. I got bored with the games and narcissism the P4P arena embraces.

This really doesn't apply to me but it will if my wife ever catches me (and doesn't kill me):

Do you use the hobby to supplement your dating life, or have you just given up on dating and trying to pick up civvies because they just can't offer what the beautiful provider ladies do?

but i still receive that and more at home. My wife is a twelve and her friend is a 11 3/4(at her request). My reasons are highly personal but she ok's every date.

that a civy flirtation becomes interesting. last time was almost 3 years ago. i'm spoiled and just won't adapt to accepting that with a rare exception, the civy ladies i meet do not hold my interest. when they do it is often very dramatic. in the link below about lady cannibals i was actually thinking about a civy encounter before i entered hobbyland.

in terms of companionship i'm really not a white picket fence suburban guy. i am not much attracted by white picket fence suburban gals. my civy SOs have all had a certain edge to them that i find appealing and interesting. that edginess is easier to find in this biz.

i may occasionally complain about this or that unsatisfactory hobby experience but the ladies here have been pretty great on the whole. i've become more realistic but not yet jaded or cynical.

so no, i haven't given up on civy dating. it is just that in a risk/reward sense the provider ladies rock.

and in the midst of my second divorce.  I started as a monger between marriages and also dated civvies back then.  At this point I have no interest in civvy dating or in any LTR.  I am exclusively seeing providers whenever I can.

it was supplementary.

It helped because it made me more independent.  I was never too desperate to get laid because I knew it was always just a phone call away.  My girlfriends rarely matched my libido or sexual adventurousness either, so it filled in those gaps as well.  

On the flip side, I could feel free to behave differently with a provider in ways that I might not want to risk with a girlfriend.

but looking back, I'd have been so much better off to have hobbied than gotten into my first disasterous marriage.  
I never hobbied until 15 years into marriage #2, when sex left the menu.
skb

You pay us to cum and go but that's just the beginning . The more you see a gentleman the more you relax and can enjoy more than just sex. Friendship is easy when a man is single and free at times when a married man might not be available. I find things to be more casual and get lost with good conversation when i'm in the company of a man I see on a regular basis. My rates change for those who really do enjoy spending time with me over and above the physical. No, it's not quite that, the rate stays the same but coffee or wine, a bite to eat somewhere close and small talk are usually on me. For some men this is a bonus and very enjoyable.

Kisses Haley

When it's good it's fucking great, but that is way tougher to find than almost anything.  I won't give up on it, but in the meantime, this is simply awesome.

I've been told by many woman that if i wasn't so dense i'd be somewhat of a good dating material... but since i'am so inconsiderate and blunt.... lifes not fair... ALSO i would love a beautiful latina wife.... but we all can't have wat we want

Why did you continue to see providers after you got married then? Sounds like you had a pretty good 5 hour romp this month with a provider.

I go out on dates here and there and occasionally the wine and dine translates into "Playtime".

I like the hobby because it's so easy to say, yes, I want her and I'm going to have her. Sure there is a donation required to enjoy her to the fullest, but it's so worth it when the lady delivers as advertised!

Playing the dating game in the civvie world is a pain in the ass!  Been there, done that many times, with varying success.  Since I have limited personal time between juggling work and other responsibilities, the hobby seems to fit well into my current lifestyle (I enjoy being single!).  Perhaps someday, I'll meet the right lady and get married, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Plus, I love fresh pussy mucho much. I am single with no intention to date or marry. The hobby meets my needs to a T. Now, I leave you as I finish working through my young, hot blonde appointments for this week. The lady last night was a stunner, two fresh hotties to come before I'm done for the week.

and I would completely give up dating if I had more money.  

The hobby allows me a wide choice of ladies that I can see, and be friends with, rather than the take what you can get on an exclusive basis in civvie life.  Once you are beyond a certain age, your choices in the dating/relationship game start to become limited, and most of the ladies that are available have baggage (ex's, kids) that you don't have to deal with in the hobby.  

This isn't to say that I have given up on dating, just that hobbying is a better fit with my lifestyle, needs, and desires at this time.  I am happily single, thank you, and probably will remain so for the time being.  While I would give this (and the hobby) up in a heartbeat if the right lady came along, I am no longer expending maximum effort in seeking out yet another civvie relationship that heretofore has always eventually ended in a way that left me less than pleased.  See the first sentence of this paragraph...

the hobby is my dating life.  In civvie life you don't know when, or if, you are going to get laid by your date.  In the hobby, it's a given every time, plus getting a bj and doing some daty.  How many civvie girls are gonna do all that the first time you take them out to dinner and a movie?????  My guess is, not too many.  Plus, how many of us old fuckers are going to get a date with a hottie that is 20, 30, or even 40 years younger than we are?  For the most part, that ain't gonna EVER happen!!!  If they were not providers, many of the ones we visit would not give us the time of day in the civvie world, much less go out with us and have sex on the first date.

I don't remember the numbers, but it's been floating around for years, a cost comparison of civvie dating vs.  hobby dating.  Hobby wins hands down.

Swim

I see no reason to ever return to it.