If you want to travel with a provider you should expect to pay all of her traveling expenses and also for her time.  For sure some ladies will negotiate and attractive rate for the right customer but you are not going to get the goods without paying for them!

may be spending a week on an island jerking off.

Many providers will negotiate a package deal, but  expect them to be greedy.

If you don't know or have seen a provider multiple times, I would just as soon look for a civie where the sex will be free and the gratitude will be there.
 

either as a BF with all the requisite strings attached, or pay the girl for her time.

If you really think you are that big a catch and she should go with you for free, just try attracting civvie  girls to go with you. That will determine in a hurry just how "in demand" you really are. lol

Or to phrase it another way, why shouldn't a thousand dollar an hour girl agree to go to a five hundred dollar dinner with you. Off the clock of course. are you really that stupid??? lol

But I'll just keep that thought to myself. lmao

How well do you know this person and are you sure you can stand a week with her?

My guess is that if you are asking this question, you don't know her all that well and that could spell out a lot of trouble.

I would suggest at a minimum an overnight, and then maybe a weekend.

If all goes well then sure, if you have the piggy bank, go for it.

You can negotiate on the level of expenditure that you are looking at here, and I hope that you are close and conpatible enogh for that.

Remember, even thought this seems like a steal for her, this is not for her enjoyment, it is for yours.  She will have to be "on" the whole time and that can extract quite a toll on a person, luxury digs and meals notwithstanding.

Keep this in mind at all times.

Let us know how it turns out.

Do a search of his posts. He is the guy who has fallen for his ATF and can't get up. He is also under the self delusion that he 'has it in check.'

He is obviously  thinking of asking this woman on the cruise and is afraid that she'll expect pay, and therefore burst his bubble of delusion that he thinks he isn't in.

Yes, Tony, you have to pay. She is just not that into you or she would have stopped taking the envelope. Just because she may enjoy you as a client doesn't mean she wants to take it off the clock.

Some of these girls could afford to pay for that stupid lousy cruise for the entire season if they wanted to.  

Why the heck would she want to throw away good income just to go on a boat ride with some dude she hardly even knows or feel any attraction towards?

Actually, a girl did take me on a vacation on her own dime. It's probably on the rare side that this ever happens, but it happens if the girl knows you personally and things seem to click beyond the session. Maybe it's because I look innocent and cute when I'm drunk. lmao who knows

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So if I were to book an all expense paid trip, let's say a week long cruise to Bermuda, does that cover the provider's fees or do they require an additional donation.  I mean it's a free trip!!!

If you provided with her own private first class suite, and told her to book as many other clients she wanted to.

You might try that.


HH

Any decent provider can afford her own week long cruise to anywhere and would probably rather go with her friends or family than go with a client who is not paying her.

Unless the girl just adores you and is dying to go on vacation.

But Im sure if youre reasonably cool to be around, she will give you some sort of discount for the week long trip being that it is to a beautiful location.

Have you ever seen her donation/rates area that said NO CHARGE for extended travel.  Are you really that cheap?  You pay for everything including the ladies time.

you will pay all expenses and a fee for her time.  

The only time I did not pay for time was on a trip to Europe when I paid all expenses and a fee for time on a 10 day business/pleasure trip due to end in Paris on a Wednesday or Thursday.  We were having a lovely time, she was wonderful company.  As we arrived in Paris she said she had never seen London and asked if we could extend the trip and spend a long weekend in London.  I was delighted and made the arrangement.  I naturally paid for all expenses, but was not expected to pay a fee for her time on that side trip which was at her request.  (I did pay for a fairly lavish shopping spree in London and gave her a nice gift at the end of the trip.) Ah, those were the days.

We can go on an all expense paid trip with any knob we meet at a nice bar, but this is our job and you aren't that knob! You might be able to find a "classy gal" who will go with you for cheap. Have a look around.

As you said, you will pay all of her expenses as well.

Find out where she would like to go. This gives her another incentive to work with you on her fee. As long as you want to go there. Bottom line though is that you will pay her.

Remember to give her some time on her own.
It will help keep her happy, which will make you happy on a long trip.

Balboa

Believe me I am no Prince Charming, just an average guy.  But I will have to say I have had the occasion 3 different times to be asked by a provider to go on full week's vacation, the place was her choosing, without me paying a fee.  Yes I did pay for basically all of the expenses but once the provider friend even paid for her own plane ticket with airline bonus points she had.  And believe it or not, on one trip the friend decided she wanted BOTH of us to have spa treatments and SHE PAID FOR BOTH OF US.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions let me state I had seen all of these providers multiple times over several years and all had given me time off the clock for dinner dates and one even for a weekend together.

Guess I am one of the lucky ones.  And for the record I just spent 45 hrs this past week with a provider and the only thing it cost me was for the meals and my gas as well as a night on the town.  She even provided the location without charging me.  I did give her $500 which she needed for some bills she had but she never asked for it, my tip for her excellent attitude and friendship....my total cost, including the tip, was around $800-900.

Treat the ladies right and they WILL reward you for it sometimes.

It's not that hard to find a provider to go on your free trip with you. All that needs to be true is:

1) She really wants to go on a cruise
2) She's met you at least once, and at least sort-of likes you (most providers won't book a week with a total stranger)
3) Her business is slow (otherwise she can afford her own cruise)
4) She doesn't have any friends (otherwise, she'd go with one of them - wouldn't she?)
5) She's not smart enough to figure out that while she's cruising with you, she's not earning any money to pay her bills, and she just wasted her vacation time in a cramped cabin getting screwed by a dork.

'course, she could get screwed worse:

I doubt that any provider who is doing a good business would take you up on your offer as they would be effectively losing a week's worth of pay.

I like to think of a provider as a professional athlete. In their prime they can command their top salary, so they need to make the most of their time in order to make the money for a good life after providing.

I would think that many of the gals here on TER are smart as they are in all essence independent businesswomen. Unless the provider is already seeing you OTC, I don't think you will get any takers.

I'll add that because you are paying for her flight/cruise, then you will need to know her RL name in order to get her on the flight/boat as you will likely be present at boarding together and be privy to her passport. Doesn't seem like such a great deal for her IMO.

If you just want to have fun and companionship, why not try dangling the offer to a civvie. If you are fairly decent looking and otherwise normal, it might not be too difficult.

Post an add on CL and see if you get any takers. You probably will and I would meet the finalists for dinner to decide to take.

** Hint - Don't go by looks alone as you will need to see if you can stand each other for a solid week.

Hell I might even try it myself. If I do, I'll let you know how it worked out!

Just my 2 cents, but you probably should not have kept your thoughts to yourself.  
This really is the dumbest question I've ever seen on this board.

You are the Albert Schweitzer/Mother Theresa of the Board.  I have an image of you looking like a combination of Bob Newhart and Yoda, with a dash of Arnold Stang thrown in.  Perhaps we will meet some day and my hopes will not be dashed.

Unless you're extremely tight with the lady, and she needs a vacation, I doubt you will get away with just 'paying her way'. The week she would spend with you, for 'free', would mean that's a week she doesn't have to make money. Know what I'm sayin'?

Unless you're her sugar-daddy, and/or have a previous arrangement you're not sharing with us, I doubt a lady will take a week off just to have in the sun with your ass unless she's getting compensated some how.

Unless you're me, of course...

I didn't have the patience last night to lay it all out the way you did you your points are, to me, the most important part of the equation.

Booking a trip with a total stranger is asking for trouble.  Booking with a gal you know well can, on the other hand, reap huge benefits.  I go on trips regularly with my ATF and pay her the same rate for a day that I do for a two hour appointment. Only the sex is on the clock.

The key, as you said, is never to forget that it's fun for us and a business for her.  This mean that it can't be a fun business but we should never lose sight of what her priorities are.

I don't think he has any idea how long seven days trapped on a boat with someone he's not compatible with can be. It can be an eternity even with someone you know, much less a complete stranger.

I have taken a few cruises in my lifetime, but I doubt that I will ever take another without at least three or four couple going together, there is definitely such a thing as too much togetherness. lol

If I were a provider, I would insist on triple my going rate, plus specific allowances for "me time" before even considering being locked up with a compete stranger for an entire week.

Yes, they remember; that's why he's getting the answers he's getting. He hasn't yet let the truth of the matter get in his way, so he's asking us to find out if there is one among you fellows who's had a different outlook.

Now that he knows that one of the posters HAS gotten OTC treatment, Tony will do what he wants to do anyway.

First, it is a very big risk to even THINK about such a trip with someone you have not seen a few times, preferrably for several hour dates.  You are not going to spend 24/7 in bed and it can get very boaring if you have nothing else in common.

Assuming you do know her to some degree and you are confident you will enjoy each other's company in and out of bed, then talk.  Clearly.  Because there is no right or standard answer.

Almost always she will expect to be paid--this is her livelyhood and you are taking up a week of her time.  "How much" is the big question, and it varies tremendously with how badly she wants to go to that location/cruise/etc., and how much she enjoys being with you or not.

Most ladies who have been through this have a comment on their web site saying "call for longer appointments".  Strongly suggest that is what you need to do.

I find questions like these are often best answered if put into one's own situation.

Let's say you like your job and your employer. Your employer likes the work you do, and compensates you decently for it. Your company then asks you to travel on business to Bermuda. Since it's a nice exotic place, and you might have a little time to see some sites, your company thinks they shouldn't have to pay you.

Sounds ridiculous, right? It's still an all-paid trip! The fact that you'll be *working* during some of it, even if you like the work, doesn't mean you'll just work for free.

No matter how much my ATF may like me (and it is irrelevant, really), it still is work. I'm sure she'd rather be there with someone else. I don't take offense to that; it's the truth.

So I think the answer is, yes, she should get paid on top of the free trip. Your company wouldn't do that to you, and you shouldn't do that to her. A "free trip" doesn't put food on the table.

I would modify working "some of the time" to "being on all of the time." Even when a lady's alter ego isn't really different from her regular personality, a week is a long time to keep in perspective that "the camera's are rolling," ie-this is your patron, and if you want to keep him where the spotlight should be must be kept in strict perspective.

I just got back at the end of June from a week in the islands on a diving trip. A patron wanted to pop my diving cherry. Good fun was had by all, but when I arrived home, I promptly checked out for 4 days with a video game and lovely solitude.

Not every lady can, or wants to handle such long encounters. Her rates give you an idea not just of how much she would like to make or how many people she would prefer to see a month, but also what her ideal encounter length is. If a lady prefers shorter encounters, trying to spend a full week together may spell disaster, even when the full rate is paid.