Ladies I was thinking about paying and becoming a P 411 member in order to expedite the reference issues does his help?  If so can I ask why some ladies ask for p 411 AND 2 recent references?

The lady I was very interested in meeting wanted more info even though I used that site. Her request was for data I wasn't comfortable giving.

A verification site like P411 is an invaluable screening tool. However, it is not all that many providers will require for screening.  

I have to jump through a LOT of hoops to get people to spend money with me, I REFUSE to be the one jumping through hoops when I am the one spending the money.

Are not "Okays" automatically references?  I mean a reference is as good as anyone willing to respond.  So giving reference names could still result in no response.  So shouldn't a list of okays be adequate?  They may or may not respond either to explicit reference requests.

It keeps both sides of this equation in check. Either party can and has a right to notify the site of problems during a meeting. That's how I view it.  

but some women, quite a few if you listen to the women who post on this board, but very few to hear the experiences of most men, ask for either more information, or for guys to provide "references" just like they ask from guys who are not P 411 members.

An OK doesn't exactly contain a plethora of info. It's generic. It's like, 'He paid, and I did not die.'  

I will not do so with any of the ad sites like Eros.

I recently had a lady who called my last 15 OK's on P411 when I requested an appointment.  Several of my OK's contacted me to make sure this lady was legit as she was asking a lot of questions.  One of my OK's told me that she only gives an OK if the person was someone she would see again.  Back to the lady with whom I requested an appointment, it turned out I was her first P411 OK so she was nervously going through the verification process.
Most ladies look at the OK's and pick a few to contact and some just go by gut feeling for the guy.
I've had two ladies on P411 ask for my real name, work info and address.  I respectfully declined and went on to someone else.  I choose not to provide that info.  No worries, we all do what we feel keeps us safe.
I use TER and P411 extensively to select new companions for relaxation and fun.  So I would recommend joining both.

Are you asking why some ladies on P411 list that they'll only see clients with basic +2 meaning a P411 member with 2 okays or are you asking about ladies who are asking for additional references outside of P411?  

I have a number of OK's and a couple of white lists, but since I have been seeing the same one or two providers regularly for the past year I can see this becoming a problem as my references recede into the past.  I really am not a high volume guy.  Once a month (if that).  So unless I branch out and see different women soon I fear my references may "expire" in the eyes of some.  I have been on TER since 2012 and been with p411 at least 3-4 years.  It's kind of disheartening that to remain "current" we need to constantly see new people even when we are pretty content the way things are.  Yet keeping options open has to be there in case the current one (s) retire or move, etc.  Ah dilemnas!

When contacting a new lady for the first time I include my handle from TER and p411 and tell them if they want more references I will be happy to provide them.  I would say it has been about ten new ladies since one has wanted more references.  So in my opinion it makes getting approved much easier.  But I also have 13 white lists on TER and I believe 31 OK's on p411.   bigdell

If one of the women you've been seeing regularly is on p411, you can request she update her okay. For those who only see someone once every year or two, they often have to go through a little more screening since their references are old (or see a newbie-friendly woman).

I don't think you will find a real unknown lady on P411 but the vouch could be by a provider. Services wise still will be unknown for the gentlemen. I guess it goes both ways

Hookers and Johns alike need "someone" to vouch for them before becoming P 411 members, but that doesn't mean a provider will necessarily have reviews to check out when first starting out on P 411. This will require a certain leap of faith to book with such a woman, just like booking with a guy that has no okays is riskier than a guy with a couple of dozen of them.  

so I have not been active in about ten years as I was focused on a new career. Non of my past "friends" are around.  I am fine with sharing and p411 but that does not seem to be enough.  And I'm not interested in BP as that looks like trouble. I was trying figure out how I can have a regular and what verifying system can help me obtain that.

I looked around and saw a number of providers before I started seeing a few ladies regularly.  You'll have to find someone (s) you like and that might take some time, effort and  cash.  When you find someone you like and want to repeat with, who likes you as well, then you are on your way to being a "regular" until then you are a "one hit wonder", lol.