I just got verified on P411 as it seems many providers accept it and makes the screening process easy.  Any tips on using  the site.  It’s seems there are a lot of girls on it, but no reviews here.  They have OKs. I understand some ladies may not want to be in here.  Is that a red flag? Do I trust the provider verification from P411 and the OKs?

I would always read the providers website prior to contacting them directly. I do not trust anyone’s okays. I do not use p411 to screen potential clients. P411 is very specific they do not offer criminal background checks. I would never trust anyone to do my vetting.

Some providers I want to see appear to accept it by itself.

We have to submit personal information to prove who we are and that we are over the age of 18 to be on P411.  If a provider scams a client or forges OKs they can be kicked off the platform.  To be approved by P411 a provider has to have reviews somewhere on some review site. I just checked my P411 account and it is linked to TER for my reviews. I am not aware of any process of a provider being approved for P411 without having published reviews.

A provider can also be approved to join P411 if several P411 client members 'vouch' for her.

They sent an email to work email with a code, which I had to send back through my personal/hobby email. It looked like a spam email, so very under the radar.  

Miss Scarlet, you are right, I remember needing a certain amount of published review history before I could get accepted on P411.   The only way I can see a P411 provider not having reviews is if they delisted or had their information removed from review sites after their accounts were established.  

Here is the actual wording they have posted on the P411 website (copy and paste).  I am not able to locate anything saying they will approve accounts without reviews.

First, welcome to P411. I've been a member here for quite a while. It's my understanding, that sometimes gentlemen can receive invitations and don't have to give personal info to become a member.

I had to give some personal info and work verification.  I also had a TER handle / history as well as a P411 reference.

I was a member of P411 for a couple of years and accumulated nearly a dozen okays. After they changed ownership and raised rates, I reflected that I wasn't getting that much benefit from being a member. Pivoting, I became a member of a half-dozen agencies in my area, which worked out well for me, since I get variety without the hassle of repeated screening. P411 mainly deals with independents and most of them won't accept P411 okays alone for vetting.

Now I see where you mentioned that further up this thread.  I think you'll find it useful.  It's not as popular as it used to be. I still recommend it so enjoy what it brings to the table.

I wish P411 did do more in depth screening, or at the very least offered a tiered option so a gal could choose if they are OK seeing a client with the lower screening level.

They should lose their P411 account if they feel the need to do that.

One added bonus with p411. Every now and then a UTR will list herself. Typically she used to work for an agency and thus had reviews but now only lists on P411 - no website, Tryst or other web presence. Of course she would now have a no review policy.

I solely  use p411. I would never send out my personal info to a provider. Not safe!

Are you doing criminal background checks? 😱

I've read multiple posts from people on here that say they were approved for P411 without giving a shred of personal information - only based on references from providers.

Reading this thread, I think it’s important to clarify that P411 makes screening easier, not optional.

Yeah, if p411 doesn’t satisfy a provider. Then it’s not meant to be. They only look at it from the risk they take.

Thank you Paige for once again explaining in the most up front, impartial fashion!!

If a lady is on P411 I wouldn't consider her UTR.

You made a great point that people seem to forget - aside from safety, thorough screening also helps us ensure that our lives don't intersect in ways neither of us would feel comfortable with. Screening with ID can avoid that.

It cuts both ways…..Last year I visited a resort in Cabo….booked with provider 3 weeks before who I found on P411. She required a deposit that I had to send to her friend since she claimed she did not have a Venmo account.  Long story short I got stiffed.  I was embarrassed and reported this experience to p411 and as far as I know she is still listed on P411.  I reviewed her on TER and again reported I was ripped off.  My review was accepted but much to my amazement when I clicked on her TER ID #, she delisted herself on TER. I contacted TER and all I was told was that the Provider is no longer listed on TER.  Last time I checked, she had a profile on Tryst.link.  I will not disclose her name here but will provide her name if you send me a private message.  I feel that she conned TER administrators with a bogus story, and they took her word over mine as well as p411 administrators

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QB has said in the past that she does a criminal background check and to be honest its not that hard. Sex offender registries are easy to search as well. I'll let QB answer for herself but I think she can handle doing a few searches on a couple of websites.

P411 is only intended to be used as one tool in the verification process. We do not offer criminal background checks on applicants for either companions or admirers.

If you have two references (vouches) from verified P411 Companions, you can use them instead of providing personal information. New applicants with these two P411 Companion references qualify for a free 3-month trial membership.

To verify a non-P411 companion, we accept vouches from P411 Admirers in good standing with 5 or more Okays.

You don't want to list her name here, so someone else can get screwed? If you're not going to name her publicly, then don't bring it up.

Hi Angel4Life, I sent you a private message for more info about this incident.

With RWI it's pretty trivial. Court records are generally public information and there are services out there like Intelius and TruthFinder that include criminal convictions in a person check.

second this opinion. I think it is a good strategy for providers to list occasionally on P411 to get a new client or two while remaining otherwise UTR. Especially useful if they are not touring and not high volume but basing their business on small number of long-term clients. Personally met a wonderful someone just this way.

I’m a VET. I have been around, since yellow pages ads. After being assaulted, and attempted rape by crazy clients it’s in my best interest to do criminal background checks on all potentially new friends. This industry is hard, and I have an entire family that relies on me. Sharing your energy is not something I want to do with just anyone who inquires.

Yup and don’t do deposits 😂

From Nicole on another post several years ago:

Gina was running the show then and was a total pro. I took her at her word that the info I provided would be destroyed once I was approved and I have never had any reason to doubt that was done.
I understand why some girls need additional screening and that's fine. I generally would take a pass on them, but all's fair.

When I joined in 2017 it was using a referral from a single provider. I never provided any personal information whatsoever.

I have had clients state they use their buddies account to book dates. I see how this is totally unsafe. Any provider can lie to get anyone access. No real verification it’s not a screening website. Yes it costs to advertise & we are sharing our clients by giving okays. Trusting people you don’t know to be honest. 🤔  

P411 did not require ID from providers until Sesta/Fosta.

People who do that are very stupid and should lose their p411 credentials, imo. I also think you should report guys who tell you this to help ensure the integrity of the system.  I also think that would be extremely rare.  Personally, I have never even told anyone in my real life that I hobby, let alone that I have a p411 id.  The only way to keep a secret is never tell anyone, and even then you have to be very careful.  

Yes, I am a P411 Admin and have been with P411 since its inception 20 years ago. You may reach me directly at: [email protected] or [email protected]

Yes, Meena, this is correct.

Hi QueenBia, we require recent ID verification for our companion members. [email protected]

of course! many of us do!

and many clients share accounts.. I dont take ok's only for screening.

check out their page @preferred411

What's the point? All the pictures are of the same woman.

Rose Gold that’s amazing looking at your review history.  I would have expected top tier TER reviews here. I looked up ig @ preferred411 all the photos per to be you is that true?  Odd.

I know this is a fact. Providers who have been booked by a husband & serviced a couple. I think 🤔 me personally I like to verify whom I share my energy with my risk my personal safety. Providers okays and you believe someone you don’t know has your best interests at hand. I used to meet everyone who utilized my personal vouch for using my escort agency in person to verify with real life ID.

For all the nay sayer's  take a minute and breathe.  P411 is not perfect but the hobby would be much worse off without it.
X, Instagram and Tryst are full of mostly scammers.  In comparison p-411 looks like a public library !  I am a long time member and will continue to pay for the service and appreciate it. Like many have said its a tool, and a damn good one for me. For those who don't like it for whatever reason, just simply state on your sight you don't use p-411 and don't nock it here. Many providers to there advantage have p-411 preferred on there sight or p-411 number. I for one will visit those ladies first.        

I’ve only had one bad experience on p411. It’s a great tool in my book,.

+1

I personally have just done my #’s this year & it’s not in my best interest to continue to support sites that I do not get bookings. Nothing personal it’s just business. I went through the money spent this year paying to advertise on all platforms it’s not beneficial for me personally. I paid way to much for top placement, gif flashing thumbnails, visiting ads, premium it’s not work it because I get solid bookings without the bullshit from TER & X for less time and money wasted. Value. OF is a bonus. Let’s also add virtual fun that’s a huge percentage of my monthly income. Multiple streams…

Why does QueenBia have such a problem with P-411 ? Lots of supporters of P-411 on TER and only one (QB) who truly slams it every chance she gets. I wonder if she receives money, endorsements other other free services for bad mouthing P-411 ?  I have no idea but it does seem strange she would devote so much time to  badmouthing p-411 on this post and has for for years on TER.  LETS DO A POLL ON WHO LIKES P-411  ????  
 I suspect it might be 50 to 1 with QB being on the lower side ?