Charge for my time.  Period.  Whether we are out eating dinner, watching a movie, being intimate, taking a bath together, or playing checkers, I want the same amount.  I dont particularly want to spend my free time hanging out with my clients, so even if our activities are purely platonic, I am compensated as normal.

Why someone would advertise that she charges for sex is beyond me.  Seems foolish.  If I were a man, I think I'd skip those ladies and stick with those who err on the side of caution and advertise companionship and friendship only.

In Francais: Ne confondez pas le prix avec la valeur de la chose. Don't confuse the price with the value of a thing. It's not up to us to make a valuation on the person, you do that based on the service. Providers say all manner of things to get you excited from pictures to racy videos. It's a sucker's bet that you chase them based on the illusion that she is this or that. Then, there are some guys that pay top dollar because that's how they perceive value. Don't go down this road. You won't get a kind ear here. Let a lady charge what she wishes. If you return, there is value there for you. If you do not, it's likely because her sense of value doesn't meet yours. That's the fun with this world, you can get it all price points, but value is between your ears.

ya I wuz guna say that sept it wasint guna sownd all smart an fancy lyke that.

The concept of what constitutes "value" and "worth" is interesting. We constantly hear ladies touting their worth and how valuable their time is.

The question is, how valuable is sex with these girls?

Here's the very unofficial, only remotely related to scientific research.

I started thinking about this when I saw a girl advertise she had a jacuzzi suite. I thought that sounded like fun, but wasn't really in the mood for a session. I PM her and ask what she would charge for an hour of her and me sitting in the jacuzzi, no services. Her regular rate was $220. She came back with $200. hmm . . . so her time is very valuable at $200 an hour, but sex is worth only $20? Who wants $20 sex? (Kidding. I'm sure she's great)

Other girls will charge full rate for a lunch date (so the sex would be free, take it or leave it). One girl charged nothing for lunch. We had a great time and Dave & Busters.

One girl at $300/hr advertised a lunch date for $100. That's $200 sex! Must be good stuff. (Although the difference between a date and a session is more than sex, we do see the difference between "time" and "physicality.")

Some girls have "massage" and "escort" menus, but usually the massage isn't a "date," so there's more than just sex separating the two services, but again we see how they value themselves unintentionally. Usually the differential is between $50-$100.

Another girl offers several menu options, one option offers everything but FS for $250/hr or $400/hr for FS thrown in. Some good $150 sex.

Of course there's another girl whose menu looks more like a spreadsheet with all the options. It was almost like ordering ala carte! FS? Sub? Dom? CBJ? BBJ? CIM? Basically her upcharge for FS came to $40.

Anyways, an interesting if mostly useless comparison of what girls are *really* charging for sex. Are they valuing their time or their bodies more? Not sure what any of this means (if anything) but there you go. The price of sex ranges from free to $200.

-tessen

In this Hobby, there is a price to be paid for admission or an "entrance" fee, if you will. The final tally of this price of admission is calculated upon a sequential tabulation and it is not based on a consequential matrix. In your argument of value vs worth, you must consider that the price of admission is basically for their time only. If sexual liaisons follow from there on as a consequence of your time being together, you got the sex for free. Remember this statement if you ever get busted by uncLE LEo, your defense shall always be  that THE SEX WAS FOR FREE!!!

Just wishing to make matters more complicated or simpler

Cost = The Provider's (referring to Hobby) price/rate by time allocation, i.e, 1 Hr costs $Xxx.

Value = This is a subjective $um when it comes to the Hobby. How can one put a numeric price on something which can not be accurately measured in empirical/metric terms? I often think that Value and Worth are easily confused in the Hobby!

Worth = There has to be some objectivity in here! For instance, I personally may think that diamonds are worth CRAP (say for ethical reasons) and I will not waste my $money$ on buying a 1 carat "F-VVS1" rock, but my objective side tells me that since there is much demand for that CRAP, they are definitely worth something and I would not toss one out of my car's window like yesterday's gum! When one Hobbys for pus*y then one is entitled to ask, "was that pus*y worth it"? Well, since you paid the cost you certainly can judge. Doesn't our review process reflect our "worth" evaluation? Certainly you agree and engage in that hour of activity hoping that it is certainly "worth" the hour of your life, all the planning and all the ancillary stuff, plus the $cost$ associated with the Provider's time, no?!

Deal = One's own conclusion of Worth/Cost matrix, hopefully after a thorough, honest and conscious evaluation effort.

-- Modified on 11/19/2010 2:06:28 PM

I can bring home flowers and candy, go to a good dinner and take in a movie spending 150 to 200 and not get laid  and definatly not blown.  Occasionally I get laid for no aparent reason so I cant put a real value on it.  Now in the hobby based on what I read, I have seen 200 8 and 9 sesions.  and 300 4 and 5 sessons.  So again I cant put a dollar cost to it.  I have a problem dropping 300 for an hour but when I see girld asking 1000 for an hour I cant imagine that it could be 5 times better than a 200 dollar 9 or 10. Bottom line is they charge what they want if its to much dont go.  I like Louis the 13th congac I bought a shot once at disney. It was 4 weeks into the food and wine festival and I was the first person to by one, It was really good.  I watched a bottle sit on the shelf for 10 years at the local liquor store for 1900.00 while in i bought bottle after bottle of 50 60 120 a bottle stuff and still enjoyed it immensely.  It really comes down to what you are willing to spend.

I do wonder at the price spreads (lol) among providers.  All I have to go on is the pix but in many cases you see providers who charge 800 or 1K who don't look any better than the 300-400 girls.  Of course, some of the pix are doctored or fake but I think the disparity still exists.  For example, I saw a 300 girl last night and she was amazing.  As good as, or better than, her pix and totally lived up to reviews.  For the life of me I can't imagine how a girl charging two or three times as much could provide that incremental value.
Another thought re this string.  I began to imagine doing a deal to take this gal on a trip with me.  But if she was on the clock the whole (hole?) time I couldn't afford it.  But maybe she'd agree to be on the clock only when we were having sex?  The rest of the time all she'd be doing is eating great food and being a tourist somewhere exotic.  Is there a model for this or something similar? I totally get the earlier poster's point about her time being her time no matter what she was doing, but we're talking about days here, not hours, so I assume there might be some flexibility.

In theory it sounds nice to ask a provider to go on a fabulous trip with you.  According to you, she gets wined and dined, and you get a hot chick on your arm, great sex, and you only have pay for an hour of her time as if you were back home.  Win/Win right?

Well... Some ladies dont want to hang out off the clock.  As great a client as you are, she can afford her own vacation and may rather go with her friends or a boyfriend.  So... as a provider I am just throwing out the other perspective.  She probably recieves the same proposition a few times a month and will likely only take you up on the offer if you make it worth her time financially (as lovely as the trip may be).

Or wait to ask her after you've seen her several times.  She may be more willing to make a deal with you at that point.

This is purely intended to help you stay in good standing with her.  Some ladies get offended by these offers even when you have good intentiions.

If you paid $300 for sex with lady X, then sex with her worth $300 to you.  If girl Y advertise 1/2 hour sex for $150, but you think she is just another CL girl, then she is worth nothing.

really?

Are providers valuing their time, or their bodies more?

Really?

You know you’re not buying an appliance. The value on p4p is what you place on it. Number ratings, reviews, comparisons, other’s opinions are irrelevant. Maybe a more valuable expenditure of your mental maturbation on this subjuct would be to contemplate why providers “menus” are so widely varied.

Thanks, HP, I had no intention of asking her anything of the kind for a while.  I am not quite as big an idiot as I apparantly sound!  I really do get what you're saying and am under no, repeat no, illusions.  Actually, she said a few things that sounded like a suggestion, but I could be wrong.  It is soooo theoretical at this point anyway.  That's why I wanted a little feedback.

You are right most providers will never took such offers, that's why they have weekend or weekly rates on their sites.

Price (for whatever) is set by the lady. Value is judged by the gentleman. If I pay $300 for a lady's companionship, then the value, to me, is $300. If I pay $750, the value is $750. Itemization & comparison are both worthless. You don't get what you pay for - you get what you FEEL you pay for. YMMV is not only an issue of chemistry between you and a companion - it's also an issue between you and your wallet.

We all have what I would call a "value equation" in our mind. If we see a provider a second time at her rate, we believe she delivered value equal to or greater than she charged.

Ahhh. The Bottom Line.

That and some providers can really fuck and love it.

You set your range, stick to it and don't bitch about what others charge or are willing to pay. As the saying goes, "your junk may be someone else's treasure"!

I want some chick to treasure my junk!