There are times when your date does something subtle, but is a complete turn off. So much so, you would never have a second date.

I will never see someone for a second date if he's rude or dismissive of wait/service staff - or if he grossly under tips them.  It doesn't matter how wonderful he is to me. It's a hard way to earn a living, and doesn't particularly pay well. As long as they've done a good job, I feel there is no reason to treat them poorly.  I also feel that it's a pretty good sign that one day, he'll be terrible to me as well.

I have met quite a few ladies who said the same thing.  Dining at a fabulous restaurant last night, my gentlemen friend expressed feeling the same about providers: if she's rude to waiters, there will never be a second date, even if she blows his mind in the bedroom.  I have to admit, he looked all the more attractive in my eyes when he said it.

I wonder if other people feel the same, or if you have your own line in the sand?

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that was not the only reason we were divorced more than 20 years ago. Don't get me started. lol

But without fail no matter how many times we would go out to dinner when it came time for the tip to the wait staff, she would tell me THAT IS TOO MUCH.

WTF, I am doing 20% the standard fare. She is like wanting to do 10% or less a total slap in the face. We argued about this at least 100 time before I stopped showing her what was being placed down for a tip. Then she would be like "how much is in the envelope?", to which I finally started replying "it's none of your fucking business". Oh those were some fantastic drives home!!

Then the dinners stopped altogether. I would take someone else out, like a HOOKER!!! Lmfao

Anyone who wants to Hook up will never get a first date...

Also the sloppy ocotpus that wants his hour to the second and then some and only grunts when spoken too..

Pest.... Please don't be a pest. No, you can not meet my kids or know where I live..

Treating the help poorly is a sign of poor character, in my opinion. Some people make a reasonable income, but the majority are part of what is called the "working poor," so I see no need to denigrate someone even further. Some of that poor behavior, and/or low tipping is cultural. A friend of mine owns a restaurant, and tells me what nationality of tourists she dreads to see coming in the door.

Bad tipping and mistreatment of servers are intolerable, and likely to kill the deal. Dinner at a fine restaurant puts all sorts of social skills and attitudes to the test, and some of my companions have failed. OTOH, someone who not only knows how to conduct herself, but enjoys and appreciates the subtleties of the experience, takes my own enjoyment of the experience to a whole other level.

you will often not learn this by how they treat you. Providers and clients of any merit are on their best behavior "in session".

They real clues as to what kind of a human being you are dealing with, are seen in how they deal with others, whom they are not trying to impress.

or as the old saying goes, he/she who is rude to the wait staff is probably not a good person

If a provider compromises her discretionary respect for other clients, she's down the road. I would expect the same from her if I compromise other ladies.

Talking about other 'hook-ups' is a big no-no.

The tipping part annoys me to no end and usually if it happens, I politely pick up the tip myself.

But my biggest pet peeve is:

What is the deal with damn near CHEWING ON PUSSY!!!! Or if she is pierced down there playing with the ring between their teeth, then pulling it...hey THAT HURTS! What is that all about? How bout I run my teeth up and down your cock....or chew on your dick like it is a piece of corn on the cob?

Treating waitstaff as anything less than equal is not acceptable, in my opinion. I'm no better than them, I'm no better than anyone. The only person that I need to be better than, is the person that I am right now.

Never look down at anyone, unless you're helping him up.

Dear Ms. Summerhill:
Predicated on the aforementioned statement above, how important is character to you in a hobbyist? Would you rate it maybe slightly lower than what you would seek in a civilian date? Also would it be more important than the libidinal activities that would follow as well. Please articulate and elaborate on this one quality sense you said that the tipping would be a deal breaker in you seeing a person again.

Yeah, I have to admit, that truly sucks, and will probably mean a second date isn't going to happen.

I actually like a little pain, but our lady bits are so sensitive that grazing teeth is momentary AGONY!

Ick...

The good part is I have quite a collection of jewelry at home now.

I waiting for the price of gold to go up.

A most wonderful twist on the subject.

Why on earth would I feel that my patron is beneath me, when we're playing the same game?  I don't believe they are any less deserving of dignity and respect then the men I meet in the civilian world.

I have made quite the effort to contact older providers who have been in the business for 10+ years.  When I was just getting started a lady told me:

Treat your men like Johns, and they have every right to treat you like a Whore. Another common saying amongst Courtesans is: "Treat them like an ATM machine, and he'll treat you like a cum receptacle".

I strongly depend on Long Term Arrangements and Mistress Agreements for my provider income.  If I want him to take care of me, I have to take care of him.

That means that from the very first date, it is essential that I treat him as an equal, that I am sincere, and that I don't fill his head with insincere compliments or a fake persona.

Frankly, my opinion is that if a provider looks down on her patrons as "beneath" her, she should quit and get a mainstream job.  Too many men justify their poor opinion of Providers because a woman treated them poorly - so in effect, they're creating bad clients for other women.  I can't stand victimlology from women who entered by free choice.  If they're unhappy they only need to apply themselves to an education and career to earn an equal if not better income.

I also feel ladies have the option to refuse the money and the date if a man is treating them poorly.  It's better to walk out empty handed, cut him off and have you self esteem intact.  No one has to put up with that.

hear what she would say if she were liberal and
knew about the industry tips ;;;;wink

you're ALL-IN!!! LMAO

I am only interested in equals.

Luckily, I've never been with a provider who was rude to anyone we've encountered while we were dining or out in any public venue.

Personally, I feel that being discrete when you're out in public together is very important.  If a provider does something that get us into a compromising situation, I won't see her again.

Well, glad I'm doing it right, without teeth. I'm always invited to come back.

trash talking other providers...

One lovely lady said if I liked her... and suggested others at her Agency I might like.

Very nice and not possessive, she got bonus points.

Mr. Romeo come on now....if I were talking about you...you would have a huge bruise on your back from me throwing you off me....my legs are pretty strong. I would have NEVER agreed to see you again, or spent another minute with you after you chewed my who who.

Your DATY skills and everything else about you are GREAT!!! nevermind the fact that you are a very cool dude and a very nice man.....I took a licking and you went to sticking!

Here are your review scores from Allure`

10/10+

You mean to tell me that ol' bagga shit does better than me?!

Oh yeah! it's ONNN Romeo!!!

Yes I've heard many gentlemen say this behaviour will end any possibilities of future dates.

I hear it happens quite often, that's just too bad. I still don't understand how women can justify mistreating or looking down on each other.

Yes and also talking negatively about other gentlemen they've seen.  Actually any form of stirring up drama or gossip will prevent me from making a repeat performance.