I was wondering when an older man marries a younger woman, what maximum age difference do you think would be the norm?  In the U.S. many American women thinks that the age difference should be no more than 5 years.  In other countries like those in South America and Eastern Europe, women would go for a man as much as 30 years older than them.  American women would think that that is crazy.  What does the creator (God or Mother Nature) of human beings think?  According to the creator, maybe he thinks it is OK for a man to get involved with a woman 30 years his junior ?  Think about the following reasoning:  A 65 year old man can still produce babies.  If according to American women's mindset, he should not marry a woman younger than 60 years old. But a 60 year old woman cannot produce babies.  The aging rate of the reproductive system between a man and a woman is vastly different. But if you bring in a woman who is age 35 and unite her with the 65 year old man, babies can still be produced.  So with this reasoning, doesn't it make sense that an older man with a much younger woman is normal?  If that was not meant to be, and a man should be involved with a woman no more than 5 years younger than him, then shouldn't their reproductive system age the same rate?  A man's reproductive system works as old as past 80.  But a woman's reproductive system work up until mid 40s / early 50s.  Anyone would like to comment?

if yes, then the younger the eggs, the more likely they will develop upon fertilization.  
If not, then who gives a shit? Get the CUT, move on.

Who cares about what the norm should be?  Do you think hobbying is the norm? It is for us, but it's not for majority of the population.  

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My grandfather was thirty years older than my grandmother, and that worked out horribly, they had 8 kids and stayed together over fifty years until he died well into his 80's

Almost all the women I see in P4P are around thirty years younger than me, and most of the Civvies. It's rare that I am attracted to a woman any older than about twenty years my junior.

Other than that, I fuck who I am attracted to, and for right now at least, I tend to be attracted to twenty somethings, I am 55, fucking sue me already.

then whatever the age difference is, is what it should be.

Sure, it could be a mistake, but I'd rather regret something I did rather than something I didn't.

age is just a number. some of the best sex I've ever had was with a woman 30 years older than me. I was 30 and she was 60.  gal could fuck and suck all night long.  even after a couple of kids, she had a tight pussy and firm natural tits.

I just talked to God yesterday about this. He said that as long as she's old enough to give a good BJ and he's young enough to get a hard-on, everything is good.

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and continue to do so despite the age difference -   they seem to like me well enough :p   I think that it's not a matter of "daddy issues" as some would suppose, but rather that they've had a rough go or two with younger less mature or stable men and are looking more for stability and gentlemanly qualities at that point in life (certainly not speaking of all women in that age bracket).....

While I'll have sex with an 18 - 23 year old (who wouldn't?) I could never see myself with anyone under 23.  She's old enough to have finished college (or be mostly through) so she has something to say, and has a bit of a clue to the world around her.  Likewise she's old enough to have a drink at a bar with no worries.  As far as reproducing, who gives a shit, I've got a vasectomy.  I've been with providers of all ages from 18 to 55.  I find that I enjoy the slim suppleness of 20 something's, but love the experience of late twenties through early forties better.  Past 45 or so there seems to be a sharp decline physically.  Again, this is on a case by case basis.  Some 20 year olds look and perform worse than some 50 year olds.  Some 50 year olds are tigresses in bed and others aren't.  But those are providers.  For civvie gals, if I was going to be in a long term relationship (I'm in my mid forties now) I'd go for a mid to late 20's gal, so by the time I'm 70 she'll still be a sexy 50 something.  If I live longer than that (doubtful with my high blood pressure and lifestyle) everything will be gravy anyway.

Now I am that "older man" and I am getting my revenge. It does help that I don't act or look anywhere near my real age, nor do I look or feel awkward around younger women, and I think that is the real key. I don't feel the slightest bit out of place with a lady on my arm that is twenty-thirty years younger than me. I guess maybe because I don't feel awkward, neither do they.

There simply isn't a normal. Be who you are, like you you want(as long as she's of legal age), laugh when something is funny, cry when something makes you sad. You only get one go around (I'm not a man of faith so I believe when you're done it's over). Be kind to people and animals, even when it's not cool to do so. Respect others view points and feelings, even if they differ from yours. Do what makes you happy, as long as it's not something that hurts others. And most importantly in my mind, do not care what other people think about you, it's a monumental waste of time and energy.

You see, when YOU reach the age of reason and puberty, that will help diminish your juvenile thoughts of extracting revenge on a girl, stalking her from fake email addy's and thinking of ways to hack into her website for the "crime" of not showing up for a date.

.... What age your grandmother was when she married.  

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Then I am guessing I won't either.  These are market driven decisions, not emotionally driven or god help us, procreatively driven.   A woman can post an age range on her site, a man looks at her site and decides if she seems right for him.  As long as everyone fits within each other's parameters, nothing else matters

because it makes about as much sense, all I can do is claim "PUI" lol

I don't remember the exact age or even date when they married, but I posted mistakenly. They were together well over "thirty" years, not fifty. My bad. lol

just so - I do not feel at all awkward with younger and very beautiful women - I've had plenty of them so I'm not tripping on my tongue or letting my pecker do my thinking for me - I think that is hugely attractive to younger women -  poise, confidence and a certain sense that you have a lot of carnal knowledge -

I know you've been here long enough to know my meaning, but for those that are new here. OTHFBC stands for "Over The Hill Fat Broad Club" and I can see them seething over the fact that some young hottie has "stolen their prey" lmao

Truth be told, I would be likely to start  second guessing my taste in women if I ever STOPPED getting those looks. lol

If I do that, I get 38.5 years. I prefer one-third my age plus 0.

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Dude, it's a business, it's their lively hood, you've never seen the "real" them.

to talk about marriage!!!

because if I were to follow it, my "minimum age" would also be well into her thirties, right about where my "maximum age" is by my own tastes.

I like your minimum age much better, as it puts me right at the legal age, but as I get older I may have a change of heart, so lets either put this on a sliding scale or simply set a static number like "100" I can confidently make the pledge that I will NEVER see a woman more than 100 years younger than me.

Well, unless there are some huge steps made in medical science, and then all bets are off. lol

I know that I'm vulnerable to getting attached to someone, civvie or pro.  If I see someone who's 35-40 years younger than me, even in my most illogical state (sex throws logic out the window) I know with 100% certainty that there's not a chance in hell. If I were to see someone in her late thirties or early forties, well, that's not an impossible age gap to bridge. My brother did it. Then it would become dangerous.

I was doing the same math as DA, actually had to break out my scientific calculator to check said math. I applied, trig and calc, then went back to simple math and I was very confused. But it all makes sense now, you put an incorrect variable in the word problem (of fuck what a damn nerd I am), scratch that, pretend I never even typed that.

busted out laughing right in their faces -  or made a show of their affection to enflame their rage -  it's all good sport :p

We are almost exactly thirty years apart age wise. We were at a restaurant that we used to go to on a rather regular basis and there was another couple that looked like a rather obvious P4P situation, he was old and white, she was young and black and looked right off of BP, and they were all over each other.

AAR my friend started making comments about the "old man and the young woman" and I had to remind her about "our" age difference. Her only comment was that "we were different" I guess it's tough to argue with logic like that.

That is some great useless information, very interesting. The Civil War intrigues me.

I had a wonderful young lady go to a Vegas show with me, in between fun, and although I knew I wouldn't feel awkward I suggested to her that if she did then we could just pretend we were Father Daughter when in public so of course no PDA. Now here's how awesome this 24 year old woman is, she said I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks, you are my man for the next 7 hours and I might just be playfully affectionate with you in public on purpose just to get those assholes talking. What a gem of a young lady, and she rocked my world before and after the show, there's an experience that is indelibly printed in my memory bank. We had bought her a new evening gown, which she definitely rocked, so people definitely noticed us and she playfully flirted with me the entire time we were in public together. Ohhhh!!! What a woman.

I'd just spend the rest of my life jacking off to porn, it's what gets me through from one appointment to the next anyway. Lucky for me, I don't have to settle.  

The greater the age difference, between client and provider, does that equate to more bang for your buck?

I find myself in casual relationships from time to time which don't cause me to quit doing this. It's only when you make a promise of exclusivity that it becomes cheating to see hookers.

As for your rep, you better be careful, if they never see you with a woman they might start thinking that you are gay. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but do you really want to have guys showing up unexpectedly at your door? lol

So, I thought the same thing you did about the cheating. I probably will ask her out. But I'm kinda afraid that I will like her and if we were to at some point reach the exclusivity plane then I'd have to give up this life that I love so much. Oh well she'll probably annoy me with the bullshit long before we ever get to that point anyway so what the Hell. I'd really like to see that little body with no clothes on, it looks really nice with clothes on, and she seems to be really cool, but we all know that may not be her true colors. As I was always taught and have lived by these 50 years, nothing ventured nothing gained.

He has introduced me to some mighty fine women. And you  know the saying "if you love something set it free, if it comes back to you it's yours, if it doesn't it never was". Well I keep setting Ben and his twin brothers free and they keep coming back, so the fondness seems to be mutual.

You remember when we didn't have automobiles? Shit there must be dirt out there younger than you.

And you're right, that's me. Hey, you want to play some poker? Because you know those with aspergers don't pick up on subtle signs and gestures, which is so very true with me. I'll give you first deal.

and I am pretty damned sure that I didn't have any relatives on either side of that war, but I've been called a Yankee on more than a couple of occasions.

What I find just as ironic are all the Civil War reenactments done in the South, the losing side. Sorry, but I am one of those people who really doesn't need to be reminded of the ass whippings I have received in my life, much less want to relive a fucking war that my side lost. I just don't get it, but they seem to go on forever.

I used to have fwb until I discovered p4p. It was so much work finding and maintaining hot ones with a 20 yr age difference ... But one time I did, I took the young nurse to a hip restaurant club. Something perversely invigorating about arm candy... Two aging hipster tycoons were "high fiving" me at the bar...but she was terrible in the sack. I'd trade that for good p4p anyday...

That said, it's not strictly true that all re-enactments are in the South.  Gettysburg, PA, being the biggest example.  As the largest and perhaps most important battle in the war it also has hosted the largest re-enactments. I'd also include Maryland, which was a so-called "border state" during the war but never seceded.  They fought a little battle there called Antietam (or, as the Rebs called it, Sharpsburg).  Bloodiest single day action of the war and led to the Emancipation Proclamation, so a pretty big deal.

I would not take the chance. The risks of genetic diseases in the offspring grows dramatically after 45 (dad being 45 or older). Actually it has been proven that most of the crap happening in kids from couples over 35 results from his age, not hers.
Advice to the ladies: if you are with an old man, get pregnant from the personal trainer instead. You are doing your man a favor (just being sarcastic but hey)

There definitely is the "age" thing.
I mean I really like her. And this is very difficult.
But , I understand and hope she does as well......
   
    In a few years , she will be too old for me !!!

Oh well, there are good and bad people everywhere, most of them say Yankee and don't mean much by it, and then some, well you know it's not a term of endearment coming from them. It really pisses some of them off when you come down here and you're their boss, ohh that smarts. Oh well, you gotta take it with a grain of salt, because at the end of the day, it just doesn't matter.

Jesus man, after the revenge bit the better move would have been to lay low for awhile, not look for peer review on your 9th grade term paper.

...that in European wars prior to our Civil War, the victor took control of the conquered. Often plundering the wealth and ravaging the land and its people. Our Civil War ended differently. The South was welcomed back into the Union, rebuilt, and the States given equal footing with those in the North.

it's geography plain and simple, everything else political is pure emotional attachment to ideals.

So we don't really have to treat Southern rednecks as citizens? That's a relief!

Even though my ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with the war.   Not many are that dumb and most southerners are in fact very very friendly... but there certainly are some worthy of a "dumbest southerner of the year" trophy pointing out the north thing to an Asian man.  Rofl