I know this is divided. Those who would NEVER take an escort to dinner vs. those who frequently do so.

Whether or not you have sex.  Most gals will probably not give you a big discount.  Especially since now you want them to act like they care about you and be interesting.  (Have you seen what good actresses make these days?)

Id be happy to chat via PM

I guess you want to be given the wrong information about this. HA!!!

If the former, then any number of gals would be more than happy to take you money for dinner, drinks, and staring into your eyes.  You might get some consideration on the rate, especially if this becomes a regular thing, but don't count on it.  Don't even think of developing a SO relationship from this, however.

If the latter, then go out and do things in places where you can meet gals.  Dance classes, book clubs, church functions (Yes, they do work!), and if all else fails, the neighborhood bar.

It's slow and fraught with problems, but you can't argue with price, at first, anyways.

This is borderline. Why not try a dating site...Plenty of Fish or Match or something. To pay someone a grand for dinner and conversation, unless it's pocket lint (and it doesn't sound like it if you're even mentioning it), that seems like the wrong investment.

Have you considered trying the SB route?  I notice some providers here offer non-exclusive SB arrangements.  You could also try a SB hookup site, but you're talking big bucks there.

Makes you happy. In the past with certain ladies many different arrangements can be made. LTR can offer many varied options. Generally you won't find it written in a review or on her website, it really depends on her needs and the chemistry and connection.Lunch or dinner dates are always very stimulating and build anticipation and passion.
  Many mature and UTR ladies who are established are more inclined, however I did enjoy many clock free adventures with a twenty something who was far more mature than her years.
  Keep in mind in the long run, they knew they were being taken care of in kind...

If we were TER wouldn't exist as it wouldn't matter how well she fucked and sucked.

Now SOME people are only seeking companionship, and wherever there is a market, there is someone waiting to fill it.

MANY women will be willing to do this type of thing, and there is no reason to pay hooker rates for non hooker services. First off, there are many actual hookers that will do these kind of dates at a reduced rate, but secondly there are tons of women who will do these kind of dates who would never dream of doing actual P4P.

...have ultimately been a satisying experience that met their needs.  Ladies can't answer that question, which is why we come to TER In the first place!

And pay full price to watch someone eat and not be genuinely interested in you. Hey no sweat off my back. I was offering the OP possible solutions and ways around someone raping his wallet because he just wanted to spend "time" but if my input is not appreciated due to the fact I have a vagina so be it. You guys like playing with each other too much anyways.  

Either dig around for someone who specifically lists that option, or ask about it (but don't mention sex, just ask if her if she offers a different rate to accompany you to dinner/movie/show/etc. only). Ladies who already list a varied assortment of service offerings will more likely be open to your request.

that make easier for both of us.  
regardless... I am offering only time and companionship. :

I am just taking all the opinions here. Great to hear from guys and gals alike!

Trying to test the water here and get some perspectives that I am missing. Keep them coming please

Have you yourself 'tried' any of those ridiculous so-called dating sites you are putting him onto? Hmmm I wonder.  

You are neither a preppie nor a kid. Simply a board troll, I did give you a straight answer in the interest of furthering conversation, but you are in fact the first Prepkid old enough to be an AARP member. Give us a fucking break.

But keep trolling if you so choose. We have to talk about something I suppose, and your drivel is a slight improvement over the dumb OPs from yesterday.

actually do have social rates posted. Or a meet & greet rate for shy new clients. You could see if she'd be willing to extend to a dinner date with appropriate compensation.  

I read a post like this with incredulity. Seriously, every one is different...blah blah blah....but paying someone for a warmup? Good lord people. I just don't get it. Sorry. Here's a stack of 100's so I can TALK to you ? That is weird to me. And the comment that there are certain women willing to do this makes me laugh. Ya think!??!  

I personally have never requested that type of "service" from a provider, but a few have asked to meet me for dinner or drinks prior to a date to see if we were compatible. Those encounters were very enjoyable on their own merits, but since I was in for the full experience, it was like a foreplay before the main event. But to each her/his own

(which is clearly evident) then don't comment. Seems simple enough to me. There are plenty of players who play with eyes wide open here and understand it all too well.  

I am hardly the only person here who knows that you are full of shit. I just feel the board deserves to know before investing a lot of energy in answering your OP.

Obviously I don't understand it when I admit as much. I don't think that disqualifies me from having an opinion on it. I don't understand what it's like to be a black person, since I'm white, but that doesn't mean I don't, or can't, have an opinion on racism (to make a comparison).

...that guys could have valuable input on this!  That is what I was responding to Jaye.  My reply had nothing to do with the business side of things.  I'm glad you offer good deals, and normally enjoy your posts.  But again, other guys (or yes, client ladies too!) are best able to answer the question about satisfaction.

we should just drop everything we're doing (schoolwork, real work), find a babysitter for kids, cancel all plans, make excuses to friends/boyfriend/family/coworkers? Then we should drive to wherever he wants to meet (might be 1 hour + travel time) and spend an entire evening flirting with him and making him feel like a king for 5 hours (geez...what time am I even getting home?)...for free?  

If you're not a hooker? yeah...the idea is he finds you on a dating site....you email, maybe talk on the phone...and arrange a date. And all he pays for is the cost of the dinner for you....like regular folk. The only plausible explanation to me is...I'm extremely lacking in self confidence...and/or not a good looking guy...and I would like to be in the company of a really good looking woman...who would never go on a date with me in real life, even through a dating service. So, in order to fulfill THAT innocent fantasy...being with a great looking woman...it will cost XXX. That I get. If that's his situation, ok...understood

He wants some guarantee that an attractive girl will sit there, drink with him, gaze into his eyes, and flirt with him for 5 hours straight. And he doesn't necessarily want or need to see her again.  

Except that, a lot of good-looking, self-assured guys do ask girls on paid social (or mixed social and playtime) dates.  

Yes, this world is privy to many differentiating opinions from anyone who roams this earth. But differentiating opinions do bring about many colorful debates. Don't they? Or what's the point.  

One review in three years, three years ago and coinciding with your first post, of an agency girl with pages and pages of them. And weren't you trolling for kink advice not too long ago?

You are in LaLa Land I'm afraid LOL. Why in the fuck do you think there are so many escorts in the world????

So let's see...you were maybe 18 when you wrote that post (in 2012)...makes you around 21 now  LOL

But since you have some time on your hands...go and read some of his "old" nonsense.

Posted By: _Taylor_

Posted By: Dr Who revived

I see you've garnered some interest from the "older" hookers here...lucky you       I'm sure they have an ability to converse with 21 y/o's on a variety of topics.  And you will love chatting about the 70's and 80's...it'll be a history lesson for you  LOL  
   

   
 LOL. He is lucky. Much better to hear from the "older" hookers than the "elderly" johns. Good lord.  
   
 Just sayin'  
   
 xx kisses

You? LOL  

The BS on the dating sites is a big reason I'm over here now as well.  The mind games and mixed messages are greatly reduced in this world.  

I fucked them.  

and I bet you he would even give you a discount off of his normal rates.

I would even be willing to meet you, and all it would cost you is the price of a few drinks, but I warn you, I don't drink the cheap stuff.

As for preppie, his game was old before you even got here, and he's even too lazy to rebrand himself.

I really stopped caring about them while back. I forgot how to use the block feature.

That's the reason. We also hobby to step up out of our league. In this case, wayyy out of league, for me personally. Anyhow, I will hit you up next time I am in NoVa. I used to live in fairfax county while back.

read his one review. I think you'll find it, um, interesting to say the least.

Of course you forgot how to use the "ignore" button.

virtually all the money wagered except Tardy's has gone on the "over"

Do you think that maybe I set the line too low? lol

My goodness. Leave him be.  

I'd give the civvie guys a chance at buying me that steak again lol.  

Thank you =) Though let it be noted that I am a sapiosexual; if you can talk intelligently about assorted things, you'll have my unfeigned attention.

Can I put you back on my 'list?' xoxo

its a service we are providing and no your trying get more !!! when it ever enough !!

and no, not ever.  

I certainly wouldn't want to be judged by my first few...or any, for that matter. No, it's the review itself I find highly suspect...awful lot of kink for an 18 yo's first time out. And if the review is bs, well...

I will take that as a compliment. I can be.. well.. kinky.

and it's possible that a provider in her mid/late 30s would be more than happy to pee on an 18 year old man-boy and give him a hickey. Strains credulity, though.

is DEFF much more into kink and exploring other things than anyone of the older generations. That shouldn't be a shock to you lol. Isn't that why the older guys here seek out the much younger girl??? Besides the obvious of course. And maybe why the older ladies seek out younger guys?? Go figure I guess lol.  

Oh I'm sure you're on your knees sobbing away lol.

Has that cow bitten his tongue again? LOL

and it's usually pretty accurate

I'll leave it to others to opine on whether he's yanking it in his mom's basement or his own.

says your scale is a lil off on this one lol. He's most deff not one'of'em that's for sure and mine is usually pretty accurate.  

But he's still 55.

Cut it.  

Id say talk to her and get a feeling. From the first minute on the phone you can tell if you will click or not. Most girls love to go to just dinner and drinks, it's stress free, fun and relaxing. I'd say meet at the restaurant. I don't know about other providers but I would be open to a special rate for just dinner and drinks and I know a few of my girlfriends have.

From the one on the receiving end of the cash transaction...

NO, I am every bit as confident that when I pay a hooker I am going to get laid as I am that when I go to a restaurant I am going to get fed. Please save that bullshit about "this is NOT an offer of prostitution, time and companionship ONLY" for someone who hasn't been doing this for decades. It's bullshit created by someone who watched a couple of episodes of Law and Order and decided he/she was now a lawyer.

There are MANY women who would be thrilled to get paid even a hundred bucks an hour to be wined and dined, not necessarily hookers used to five times that amount for their "time", but plenty of other women would be thrilled. AND as you can see, there are plenty of hookers more than happy to discount their rates for "non sex" dates.

Yes, "companionship" means many things to many people, but it also carries very different price tags.

Was flatline supposed to mean something?

Posted By: _Taylor_

Cut it.  
   
 xoxo crap doesn't work on a woman like me lol.  
   
   
   
 T

I'm not honestly not sure what you're getting at...like what are you comparing a dating site to in the context of taking a woman out to dinner just to talk and be with an attractive woman? An escort is better? Because...why? Let's first agree not to debate one is less expensive, considerably, than the other. Fair?

Because it costs a fucking grand to do it??? The guy mentioned the price....and was wondering if he could barter her down...to make it affordable based on his notion of what that's 'worth'.  Seems like the cost is an issue. And he is wondering if it's worth it....ie soliciting opinions....I say TALKING to a woman and paying for the privilege of doing so...if you have any game or confidence...is a weird waste of money. Just because you're an escort doesn't guarantee you are going to trip his trigger...on a intellectual level. The guy wants dinner and conversation, remember? You can't tickle his cock with your big toe under the table....that's cheating

There are sites that are dedicated to renting a friend  LOL

She fucks and sucks as well as her reviews suggest.  Whether you have sex with her or not is up to you really.  As far as there being women who will do a "date" the way the OP described for less money, judging from the responses I will admit that I am wrong, but you still are "renting" time by the hour/date for time (see that word) and her companionship (meaning whatever the fuck you contract her to do with or for you).  Now if that "companionship" is a platonic dinner date it is no less a "companionship" than a wild GFE/PSE fuck and suck session.  Companionship can mean many things to many people.

Escorts chiming in about whether a guy should pay for a dinner date is comical. Like you're gonna say 'no'??!?!

It's just a protection reply....someone wants to pay someone something that never should be paid for.

You mean avoiding the pre-date rigamarole that you have to go through when finding an escort? The vetting, the verification, the review process, the correspondence....and the date ending at EXACTLY the agreed upon time that you go through with an escort? Yeah, I see how different they are. Not.

Xoxo

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For legal reasons, for reasons of personal safety, and for reasons of personal enjoyment, the only way I will see someone new is with a dinner date.

And civvies can always run off, saying "Sorry, I don't think this is going to work," or "OMG!! I just forgot I left dinner on the stove." Or, they can roll their eyes and look at their nails the whole time.  

I read these in reverse order, so I'm responding to this out of order..

Posted By: _Taylor_

Have you yourself 'tried' any of those ridiculous so-called dating sites you are putting him onto? Hmmm I wonder.  
   
 I did. It  took less than six months of bullshit for me to join this world. Simple as that.  
   
 'Those' gentlemen you speak of are only looking to 'bone' a woman from word one no different than you. They just don't want to pay for it. Clearly NOT PK. And please, don't even mention dinner. That's non-existent. 99.9% of guys there think pussy is owed to them with whatever 'twisted' reason they've conjured up in their wonderfully 'twisted' minds. Who are you kidding. Could you imagine if they actually buckled up like a real man and treated a woman to a god damn steak without expecting anything in return...whoa, I'd personally fall off my chair with steak on fork lol.  
   
 PK is in the right place to explore what he's looking for minus the bullshit of that world that is present on both sides of the equation... for both men and women. My ass is here for that very reason. End of story.    
   
   
 xx kisses  
   
 Don't get me started Mr. T lol. You will lose this debate by a landslide I'm afraid and I'm fired up today lol. I certainly didn't expect him to get the warm and fuzzy reaction from the guys who post here on the GD board, that's for sure, and I sure hope PK didn't as well. I'll look forward to speaking to him in 'real' time off the boards with those who actually play in the world he seeks, not from those who clearly don't  
   
 Btw, did you know 1+1=3  
   
 Bring it...............Ima waitin'.....

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It's a proven, time-honored, efficient way of planning a date, and he's at least guaranteed a partner who's happy to be there...besides, it's what he *wants* to do. Whether it's a waste of time or money for you, is irrelevant...HE sees value in it.  

Notta I'm afraid lol  

that's a skimmer I'm afraid. I'm incapable of reading all of that. Don't take this so seriously handsome. But I see it's gotten under your skin a teeny tiny bit. I would hate to do that

Who's "they're" lol. Are you speaking in absolutes again Who boy.  

know or understand women very well Mr. T. It's ok, you're not alone by any means lol.  

nope lol. May work on 114 other women, but not this chica my friend lol.  

You know I adore you. However, you can't even 'comprehend' the notion of taking a woman out to dinner in this world. So....I'm afraid this conversation is indeed over.  

I adore you too. Literally.

I take exception to the notion that it's a guarantee of what he wants. That's my biggest point of contention. It's not. Like IRL, escorts can't guarantee chemistry or fulfilling expectations. On paper, yes. IRL..not.

lol...best post so far.

OMG..all he wants is a few hours companionship! You are turning this into way more than the premise of the post. He didn't say he wanted to find a gf.

We are! It's only a matter of how one defines 'soon'.  

But since you're too lazy to do a search..."they're" suggests posters on this thread.  Had it been an absolute it would have been ALL of the hookers in the entire universe.  That would be an absolute  LOL

Posted By: _Taylor_

Who's "they're" lol. Are you speaking in absolutes again Who boy.  
   
 I would bank on it, you've had quite a few drinks with p4p "gals" here in your lifetime and not ALL OTC, no matter how much you claim to.  
   
 So....that begs me to ask the question...does that mean you "lack in self-esteem" yourself?  
   
 Well now, that'd be an interesting twist of events, wouldn't it.  
   
 xx luv ya

See...there you go again with those nasty "absolutes"  LOL

Posted By: _Taylor_

Notta I'm afraid lol  
   
 I post when I feel like it being entertained, just like you. However, there is one BIG difference...  
   
 Women who ''CHOOSE' to actually post as part of this insane asylum don't sit here with their finger in their belly buttons pulling out a piece of lint from 1965, waiting for their posts to post. Believe it or not, we can actually shovel the driveway, build a snowman, fuck a client, make dinner, pay the bills, start a blog and post on TER in the same amount of time you post a one liner to our original post lol.  
   
 We multitask instead of staring at the screen hahahahahaha. I am funny, huh.  
   
 I don't know, does ___________ mean something to you????  
   
   
   
 xx

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'That' camp. So you'll fit in just fine here lol But 'we' won't be meeting anytime soon I'm afraid. Good luck to you Mr T. I have a feeling you're gonna need it lol. There's only ever one world when discussing 'this world'........

He isn't guaranteed a fulfilling experience, no matter what route he takes. BUT, with p4p, he is at least guaranteed that the girl will stick around and flirt with him for the entire date.

who looks for a 'few hours companionship' on a dating site? Most seem to be trying to find a partner, or a hookup...usually, something other than a five-hour dinner date, lol.  

Can't I have another shot? Pretty Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee???? I promise you won't regret it....................xoxo

Sometimes all is not as it seems

We are all fully aware of what this biz is, and what we are paying for - so we don't need to pretend here on TER and potentially confuse newbies!  I mean, we don't have abbreviations like, WOAAI (went out and ate Italian), or TALDATC (took a lovely drive along the coast) now do we lol!  Also, if this magically became legal tomorrow, that phony little disclaimer would instantly be gone too!

Me thinks you got the wrong chica like Mr Grant here lol  

Sorry it was to deep for you. I know you analyze every lil wordy lol. I'll be careful next time. I promise

Sometimes all is "exactly" as it seems.  

I'm just SO crushed by this news Taylor! What WILL I do now?!?! My life officially has no purpose...woe IS me

What's Your Price dot com website...pay for dates.