What is the "real" meaning of girlfriend experience?

you know. takin her for dinner. a movie. ice skating. a stage show at broadway..chit like that. thats what a GFE is officer, i mean sir. : ]

DFK, BBBJ, DATY, 2 cups, positive attitude.

(Is there a full moon somewhere---this got up 3x before I completed the post)

In my 5 years in the Hobby, I have found the most "abused" terms are "GFE" and "special".

If a lady says she is "the best" would you believe her?

These are Marketing 101 techniques.  You need to use the Consumer Reports of Sex to do your own research.

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If after I leave, or she does, I keep thinking about her for days, then she definitely qualifies as GFE. If she makes me want to see her over and over, that is GFE. So far, I have been a very lucky man.

A true GFE experience means in terms most guys will understand is a woman who feels like a great old girlfriend that you just parted ways with, you remember that one special girl that made you feel incrediable, and your time together was so hot, and sexy and she was someone you felt comfortable in each others arms, A GFE provider is someone that LOVES to give you Deep French Kisses, and touches, and loves for you to do just about anything too with out looking at the clock or hearing.."you can't do this and you can't do that, and we can't kiss" etc etc. She's someone you really feel comfortable with after making love..yes guys you read correctly..Making Love too, someone you love to cuddle and snuggle with after your thru.
Jay..

and I love it so.

And I'll just bet you're the ideal GFE

But

not every lady who adds the initials GFE to her website provides this experience.

Many of the ladies I see make it almost impossible to determine the difference between an escort and a Girlfriend.  These are ladies that I communicate with, they hold my hand when we walk down the street....  One - who saw me off the clock, made me feel so good - we were walking down the street - and she reached over - and put her arm in mine... I longed for touches like that when married.... they would have made my marriage better... stronger - and perhaps even saved it...  

small stuff like that - can make all the difference in the world...  And as pointed out below- when a provider calls out your name in the throes of passion - well - if that does not  make you feel great... Nothing will.

GFE?  is it going 5 min over on the clock?  no.  Is it a BBBJNQNS?  no  Is it being on time? no.  

it is how she makes you feel... seriously - I know that sound corny - and to tell the truth - I do not know if the ladies to whom I refer respond to all gents the same... (and I really do not wish to know) it is enough of how they make ME feel...

Recently I was with one lady - who is a gem... While I was with her, we had a great time.  Afterwards, I got up to leave.... (I knew that the hour was almost up - and I had to return to work!! lol!)  she acted very sorry to see me go...  Was she?  well - remember the TER ad - "Will she?"  I don't know, but in not knowing - I can keep the fantasy that was created in my imagination - that she is indeed - my girlfriend.

To all the ladies who recognize themselves in this - yes, I am indeed talking of you.  Thank you!

I love your decripton.And yes, I agree,to me it means it means feeling like a real date.Enjoying each others company,the soft touches on the back of the neck,the seductive glances back and forth, a connection.
To me,it is something that deepens the longer I know someone.By the third or forth time I am seeing a "friend" the connection has grown, a shared history- be it a uncomplicated,no strings attached-but still a shared history.
I feel like a lucky woman.

My hobbying began in the late 80's and "GFE" was a code word at Asian Massage Parlors for BAREBACK FUCKING! (Which I enjoyed OFTEN!)
Then "GFE" slipped down a notch as message boards became popular and began to mean BBBJ with covered fucking... Then it further devolved to mean any provider that would kiss on the lips, and NOW it means damn near anything or nothing at all as in most cases!
It can be retired to the graveyard of meaningless Americana-expressions such as "Deluxe" or "On Sale" or any of the other countless things money-grubbers use to advertise over-priced/under-delivered products or services...
We need new terms that reference our deviant-desires between seller and consumer, yet skirt the law in entrapment situations, IMHO...

she probably is the definition of GFE   I saw my ATF last night,  she came to my house, we talked for awhile,  then we went bcd for a few hours,
finally we took a candlelight bath together. She was with me for over 4 hours.
She left, then she drove home, and called me when she arrived at her house to let me know she arrived home safely.

I posted about the origin of the Girlfriend Experience about a month ago (I was curious if a particular lady had coined this term) and the earliest estimates traced it to some guy named old Dave of Phoenix and an unnamed provider who used the phrase in the 80s.

The discussion quickly shifted to what GFE actually meant and there was such divergence of opinion that it seems clear there is no generally accepted definition, although most posters seemed to know it when they had, or had not, experienced it.

I would suggest that kissing is a necessary though certainly not a sufficient characteristic and, after Gregory's name posts, perhaps we should add "the lady should get your name right" as well.

From Bareback Asian to money-grubbers to whores
All of these are examples of GFE?

Kissing for sure. Kissing like she means it.

Touch, intimacy, passion

openness kindness warmth

showing interest

willing to communicate a bit between sessions

beyond that, well, sex of course... for me daty is mandatory. BBBJ is a plus.....

I have received emails from gentlemen saying they want the true GFE. And when I enquired further, it meant no condom. I didn't see them but for a long time I didn't dare say I offered GFE.

Since escorting in USA, I have been told I definitely qualify as GFE.

this is not a priority to me. GFE is more about the attitude that the lady brings to the session.

As far as sexual specifics I would expect daty.....

Cheers

Gregory

They wanted 100% unprotected sex and this coming from more than one gentleman.

Maybe even the term GFE means different things in different countries.

A bit blunt, a bit vulgar and very straight forward. Best of all a whole lot of truth in what they say.

We understand that you do not like their style of posting but this is a bit unfair.

You can make your point without this kind of bogus analogy.

But typical of the type of gal that's easily offended by the truth... But I see you have a long list of gents that think you're the quintessential GFE... Which further proves my post...

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Cuz you know its gonna

I'll admit though, I've been to the doctor several times over the years for antibiotics, lol! But was lucky enough never to catch anything "incurable"...

and anyone who suggested to you that this was the case is a nutcase.

BBFS?

These days?

I don't do BBFS with my SO for fuck's sake......

This was the common phrase whispered to the mamasan at any AMP across america to have her hook you up with one of the girls that would bareback... 20+ years this has been the industry standard, but only in the past few years has the term been hijacked by online-hobby forums and watered down to where it now means nothing at all...

And the temptations of easy bareback with unlimited cash at my disposal would result in my undoing... I dodged "several hundred bullets" in my hobby career... I'm satisfied with my luck-quotient thus far in life...

Only a complete moron would suggest that.  Both are generally thought to include kissing, bbbj, daty, and msog.  PSE is thought by some also to include dato and anal.

If anybody is doing BBFS we all need to know it so we can avoid that person like the plague.  ("Plague" is used intentionally here.)

You said "I don't do BBFS with my SO for fuck's sake......"

You mean to tell me you have an SO (a committed relationship), yet you guys don't do BB? What are you, waiting for marriage? Or not even marriage is enough?

Are you afraid of pregnancy? Get her ass on the pill!

Let me guess - she has you wrapped around her finger with "I don't like the way the pill makes me feel." Your counter should be "I don't like the way condoms make ME feel." Then get a vasectomy, and start having sex and dropping loads the way the good Lord meant!

I assume because this is an SO, you are not afraid of STDs... or ARE you? Not convinced that she is truly committed to you? Afraid she's going to bring something home to you that you can't get rid of?

I can see casual dating with condoms, but an SO? No way. If that's the way things are today, I'm glad I did all my dating in the 80's and 90's.

PLUS....lots of Eskimo nose touching action if you are with me.

I mean retired  

I mean both.
It is apparent that you are ill. You're not happy. You regret all the bucks you spent on whores.

You feel ripped off. I can't read your reviews but I am sure you were average.

But this kind of attention gives your penisenvy.

I know I am naive. I'm just an over the hill money grubbing used up whore who can see right through your screwed up mind.

I will remember in the future to pay you no mind.  

If you could read my reviews, you's see I was BELOW average, but I loved every minute of it! lol!

(Your inability to "see right through me" further supports my post)

of course I spent the first third at least of my sexually active life without the "benefit" of condoms.  I don't think I ever even *saw* a condom in Asia......

And fk me you guys are funny you make me laugh. I love guys that make me laugh especially when you are acting like assholes. …O wait is it because you are assholes that makes me laugh? O well who cares you may fk me now just don’t stop making me laugh or I’ll have to use the ball crusher  to do your job. Lol
You guys  are too much on this one.

at every thing & not in a good way but the lady lets you think U DA MAN ANWAY!! lol

It was as subjective as the post before it.

Of course it is an exaggeration, but really, the shtick is not funny...it is misogyny hiding behind the guise of humor.

Since there is no agreed-upon definition it doesn't really mean shit.

In terms of advertising, it means she will charge you more to fuck her.

In terms of shopping for your next bootycall, ignore the term GFE and all of her review scores and just read the reviews to find out the menu and how far off her pics are from what she actually looks like.

Some guys think it's any girl who doesn't treat them like shit.

Some guys think it means there are no rules at all.

Most thnk it is some predetermined number of menu options.

I think a real GFE would be her bitching me at me the second I walk in the door for something I did or didn't do then asking me for money to go shopping with, while I'd be sitting down turning on the TV and trying to ignore her until she gets so fucking annoying that I snap and make a huge scene that results in me throwing her up against the wall ripping her panties off and fucking her in the ass while calling her every dirty name I can think of until her legs feel like spaghetti and she passes out and apologizes when she wakes up just before she remembers to start bitching about something else that I will ignore. So  far that hasn't happened with an escort.

Jesus, get up on the wrong side of the fucking bed today slick?  "throwing her up against the wall ripping her panties off?"  are you always that Romantic??
and no bomar, it doesn't mean you pay more for GFE.
Have a wonderful day and a better tomorrow!
Jay

Hi - we dont do BBFS because my SO is a provider. And I am a very active hobbyist. We both feel an obligation to protect the interests of the others we have sex with.

Wow, G12, you're a lot more understanding than I am.  I might have responded with a little harsher tone to someone that accused me of being pussy whipped, without knowing a thing of my situation.  But then again, we know you to be from the kinder & gentler world than I.  LOL

The sarcasm in my post was lost on you, not that it matters. Romantic? I don't see escorts for romance, as that is also a farce. If it were true "romance", you wouldn't be charging them for it. I'm there to fuck. I'm not interested in a ladies acting skills. I expect a certain degree of friendliness and that's plenty as far as attitude. If it goes above and beyond that, great, but I don't fall into the delusional state of many of these slobbering idiots who think they have just met their next ex-wife when they tell him how "great" he is in every way.  

And yeah, ya do pay more for the illusion of "GFE", countless woman make this claim to justify their rates when the menu is shit. Yesterday was great and so too will be today, thanks for asking.

JayLa; Just making out with you would be all the GFE I need!!

Bizzaro

Very Touching and very true.

Well, I did not post my answer for the fellow's benefit but for the board - for posterity.

Why not simply communicate, effectively?

But the kinder and gentler kills me - it has been my profession all of my adult life to kill people and break things, or to train others to kill people and break things, or to send other people to kill people and break things, or to draw up plans for other people to kill people and break things, or to put strategies in motion for other people to kill people and break things....  doesn't mean I can't be civil....

Cheers

Gregory

Lost on me? not at all, but i think what i said to you went right over your nasty little head!
AHHHH NO, you don't pay more for GFE and if YOUR getting charged more it's quite evident as to why! but you seem like a wham bam thank you type of guy anyway, so any type of kindness would be lost on you anyway!

Who is slick? That's kind of a dated term, but anyhow.
You again miss my point. It is not that I, or anyone else specifically gets charged more by any provider, but that ladies who use the BS term of GFE have a higher rate than the ones who don't use that gimmick. Sorry it had to be spelled out for you.  

And what the fact that I may be a "wham bam thank you" guy has to do with my appreciation of kindness, I don't know. There is no "pissing match" (another dated term), just someone pissing on their own shoes.

Not sure why exactly you seem to care so much about my original post, but thanks for the attention, even though the only point you've succeeded in making is that you don't particulary care for my opinions or sarcasm. The line for that club starts around the corner.