I find myself lowering the threshold for providers whose fee is very low, and raising it for those who ask more. It's more an unconscious thing than a rule I've set for myself.

Not trying to be a dick, but if you score a girl better than she is, she's going to eventually believe you. That's why there are a ton of girls out there charging $500 for the same blow and go you could get for $80. If she's not truly a 7,8,9,10 whatever, don't give her that score.  

I'm fairly generous with appearance scores but ridgid with the performance. I enjoy finding newbies. Most know that I expect a lot so if I can give a performance score that compliments maybe I can help a nice PYT to get started

Wow, I sure think a lot of myself lol

A nicer incall setup is part of performance to a degree. A mattress on the floor and no shower versus a king-size bed and full amenities? That stuff sways me because it affects how much I enjoy the session. Again, a lot of this isn't closely calculated, just a matter of how I remember the experience.

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And I have a problem with this statement..........big time. You know I like you WB, but this is a bit much. Sorry.  

Please tell me you gentlemen are reading how ridiculous this sounds lol.  

Some "10" girls demand them too. I just had this happen to me. I left this newby a good review, and an 8 at that, which was pushing it to begin with. However, she texted me saying "yo I'm a 10." and she was pissed that I only gave her an 8. I checked her reviews and sure enough some asshat did give her a 10.

I try to be somewhat agnostic of rate when it comes to my scoring, but I could be subconsciously doing the opposite of you based on expectations.  I would agree that I am more likely to have my expectations exceeded by a newer provider charging under $500 in NYC than some higher-end provider who has been around a while charging considerably more.  But when I am paying up for a 'higher end' experience and my expectations are met, I probably tend to score a bit higher.

For me, "Grading," conjured up grading student essays and such. A lot of the TER point system seems to be an odd attempt to quantify aspects that can't really be quantified. Beauty being one. Performance, to some extent another.

However, now that a couple of million reviews have been written using the present system, changing would be really, really confusing. The exceed, meet, failed to meet expectations sounds good to me for the reasons you outlined. I've sometimes thought a star system for the total experience would be easier. Was it a five-star experience? A four-star? And on down.

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pointing out the choice of words was kinda funny. Of course you can always say how you feel that's what makes this forum go round.

The environment in which the encounter takes place is important. If I invite a woman to visit me, it takes me hours to get the place presentable, because generally I'm a messy housekeeper and have some odd projects in progress that have to be set aside or put in cabinets. Either that or rent a hotel room.

I also think that the Academy Awards should be handicapped based on how many millions went into making the film.

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If you only knew...

Feeling, result or goal that you hope to achieve in order to deserve the compensation that you're receiving.  

Your words and how you speak are enough for me. Therefore, you are 'cute' in my book, so there lol.

LOL...Baa Baa eom

I thought we were lambchops here.

I personally am not what I would consider 'high-end' by any means but we'll use the two of us as an example just like you did. I charge what I charge for reasons personal to me and for the expenses involved for me to meet with gentlemen in this world. While I do believe that what I offer at the level that I offer validates those rates (in my opinion), you need to understand it has absolutely nothing to do with 'comparing' them to someone like yourself who charges less than me or quite more than me.  

If this forum isn't proof that there is no such thing as 'change', well then I suggest you get a wake up call yourself. But there is nothing wrong with shedding a lil light and posting it when someone has a different point of view or 'sees' things just from a different perspective.  

I'm a huge proponent of never assuming money equals anything but the fact that you've chosen a lucrative career and are good at it. So charging little or a lot to me isn't indicative of an experience. Just like being able to pay a little or a lot isn't indicative of someone who will be safe and make comfortable.  

I'm afraid that almost every hobbyist on TER has had the experience of "discovering" a talented newby who, after several months of favorable reviews, will raise her rates to the high-end category and then realize too late that the sustainable "high-end" providers are provider much more than she is.  Think of the NYTimes restaurant reviews, where the reviewer is infinitely more critical of a "named" four star restaurant--the NYTimes reviewer destroyed The Coach House because of this--than a local one star bistro around the corner in Williamsburg. To men, a delicious 5 Guys burger for $15 is more memorable than the now fixed price dinners in NY which start at $100. For $100 you expect a transcendant experience. And if you don't get a "transcendant" experience, you are deservedly critical and harsh on the experience. A while back, Sonny and I--Santino, where are you?--tried to warn a newbie--Carissa(?)--about inflating her price to the high-end category, telling her as good as she was, she wasn't worth it and there would be a back lash. As they say, you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Regardless of cost.  If you want to spend 1200 on a provider or you want to spend 200.  The experience, visual, sensual, social and visceral all combine in your brain to allow a man who knows his own mind to "score" the session.
  To some guys, expectations may be higher based only higher cost, but  by raising prices a provider sends multiple messages.  
 A.  That they provide a better service than lower priced providers (many times false)  
 B.  That they deserve more because of appearance (also many times false)
 C.  Because they have higher costs due to touring, clothing, higher class accommodations, etc. (reasonable and correct reasons for higher rates IMHO)
 D.  Fame.  Their reputation precedes them and their prices rise accordingly (also a reasonable and correct reason for higher rates IMHO, however, a double edged sword which may "price out" the fans who made her rep in the first place.)
 E.  Not giving a shit and having an inflated opinion of themselves and the services they provide.

is if we "click" and both have a wonderful time together. Dollars have nothing to do with that. In that sense, "high end" always gets a higher rating/score from me.

There was a very sensual woman who I gave a 9/8. This truly was a fair reflection of the 2-hour session. She was a knockout, to begin with, and very, very accommodating. She was flexible enough to try new things and put everything into whatever experiment or activity I suggested.

But the term 'high-end' does refer to dollars in general parlance, so what you're saying is that high-end is less of an indicator of potential enjoyment with any given lady than hitting it off or clicking. But high-end has to keep it's definition. Communication rather depends on that.

As regards the newbie pricing herself out of the market, well, live and learn.

keep your reviews and rating simple according to each experience no matter who the chica is and be done. It is what it is lol. Let us worry about our 'pricing' and what works for us. If it doesn't work for you, then again, it is what it is. See the providers who fit 'you' and don't worry about the ones who don't. Is that keeping it simple enough?  

to provoke a different logical path: That an objective scoring system, of itself, could as well define high-end and low-end - and that in a much more reliable manner than can rates.  

...I'm not suggesting that such a handicap SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be a factor, just that I find it creeping into my evaluation. So, yeah, chemistry, the magic, the click, whatever are the things that determine the quality. If anything could be argued on that point it would just be the YMMV factor. Because the magic was there for you doesn't mean it will be there for me. Means magic is possible, I guess. Which is something.

I don't think she was taking issue with your critique of a lady's incall; I think her beef was with the fact that you used the term "appraise", which is a term used in real estate.

I assume that you pay more because you expect to get more out of the session.  Likewise, paying less, you expect less.  Then you grade according to how well your expectations were fulfilled.

often could get you some more props.

No, they are not automatically 10/10. They are time consuming and emotionally draining. To the degree that they demand less of my attention, their score usually creeps up. Sometimes, they just demand so LITTLE attention that I just wander off and eat, drink, sleep, and eventually, somehow, find my way back to... well, you get the idea.

can charge 500 or 600 but if she were to visit St. Louis or even Miami, she will not get the same interest from guys. From what I have seen, rates in NYC, Las Vegas, and LA are higher than most cities. Even Boston and Chicago have good options in the 350 or 400 range.

What's wrong with using that word in that context Sarah? Seems like a typical case of someone as usual making something out of nothing. I appraise peoples performances all the time. Because they're not real estate, do I need to change my nomenclature? Petty BS to me.  

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I don't think she was taking issue with your critique of a lady's incall; I think her beef was with the fact that you used the term "appraise", which is a term used in real estate.  
   
 Just clarifying.  

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