If you only knew...
I find myself lowering the threshold for providers whose fee is very low, and raising it for those who ask more. It's more an unconscious thing than a rule I've set for myself.
I'm in an expensive part of the country, but I'm going by fees for time in comparison to fees asked by the other local talent. So, for me, high-end starts around $600 and up, and low end would be around $300 (or less?).
When evaluating the service, I am much more generous with low-end providers, and still generous with those in that middle market range. This isn't dependent on the services offered, except as dictated by TER policy, but more on whether or not I had a good, fulfilling experience.
It is harder for a woman with a $600-an-hour fee to get an 8, 9, 10 than a low-ender with whom I experienced much the same type of session.
Is this typical? Or do most men grade on a scale regardless of the price donated?
There are some of various ranges that I simply don't review because I would have to give them low marks when compared to others in that range. Also, I tend to READ reviews in that light. And I'm beginning to think that it works just the OPPOSITE for many other men. They seem, at times, to score high BECAUSE they laid out more for the experience.
Do you handicap high-enders? Do you treat them all the same? Or do you tend to score high-enders high BECAUSE they ask more (and deliver a very fulfilling service)?
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Not trying to be a dick, but if you score a girl better than she is, she's going to eventually believe you. That's why there are a ton of girls out there charging $500 for the same blow and go you could get for $80. If she's not truly a 7,8,9,10 whatever, don't give her that score.
And then you get these girls with inflated ideas of themselves going all bat shit crazy when someone reminds them that they too have smelly shit.
Sure, a $300 girl may not provide the same ambiance that a $600 girl can, but when it comes to actual performance, just be real. The girl either did a good job or she didn't. Everyone else can decide if the price of admission is worth it to them.
Some "10" girls demand them too. I just had this happen to me. I left this newby a good review, and an 8 at that, which was pushing it to begin with. However, she texted me saying "yo I'm a 10." and she was pissed that I only gave her an 8. I checked her reviews and sure enough some asshat did give her a 10.
I give her less than a year to be around with that attitude anyway
There was a very sensual woman who I gave a 9/8. This truly was a fair reflection of the 2-hour session. She was a knockout, to begin with, and very, very accommodating. She was flexible enough to try new things and put everything into whatever experiment or activity I suggested.
It was a great session, and the material outlay was moderate and appropriate.
A monger PM'd me questioning why I had "only" given her an 8. What had she done "wrong?" What flaw did I find with her performance?
For me, there was no flaw, and 8 didn't seem to suggest any. It's no good to suggest that it's all subjective (which it necessarily is), because the response comes back, "Aha! So you admit you were being subjective! Now tell me, what did you think of her objectively?"
TER's rating system, any rating system not based on a pass/fail principal, attempts to rake together lots of individual opinions, all admittedly subjective, and form a consensus understanding. That consensus, is the closest we can get, theoretically, to an object viewpoint.
At TER, a lot of people feel that those appraised with high scores have rigged the system, and that nullifies the consensus POV. They assert that their subjective POV is far more accurate. It's hard to argue on their behalf while maintains a straight face, if you agree with the hypothesis that consensus is close to objectivity, but it is impossible to successfully argue against them because they hold so dear their subjective viewpoint. And why not? Of course they're going to trust what they see, feel, hear, taste, smell... One's own sense-data will almost always supersede the consensus. Why, that's rugged individualism.
So for many, a consensus of the reviews means less than what the lady says about herself in her ads. So, for them, they're always back where they started.
And for a lot, they don't even visit the highly ranked, and form their opinions BECAUSE those women ARE highly ranked. For me, this eclipses logic and I have no response.
As flawed as each and every review might be, together they form a consensus, which is closer to the truth than one person's opinion.
I'm fairly generous with appearance scores but ridgid with the performance. I enjoy finding newbies. Most know that I expect a lot so if I can give a performance score that compliments maybe I can help a nice PYT to get started
Wow, I sure think a lot of myself lol 
A nicer incall setup is part of performance to a degree. A mattress on the floor and no shower versus a king-size bed and full amenities? That stuff sways me because it affects how much I enjoy the session. Again, a lot of this isn't closely calculated, just a matter of how I remember the experience.
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Please tell me you gentlemen are reading how ridiculous this sounds lol.
The environment in which the encounter takes place is important. If I invite a woman to visit me, it takes me hours to get the place presentable, because generally I'm a messy housekeeper and have some odd projects in progress that have to be set aside or put in cabinets. Either that or rent a hotel room.
Some women's apartment incall places are very elegant, immaculate, oozing of sensuality. Others aren't. Do you think that doesn't affect how a man enjoys the encounter?
I don't think she was taking issue with your critique of a lady's incall; I think her beef was with the fact that you used the term "appraise", which is a term used in real estate. 
Just clarifying.
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Just clarifying.
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What's wrong with using that word in that context Sarah? Seems like a typical case of someone as usual making something out of nothing. I appraise peoples performances all the time. Because they're not real estate, do I need to change my nomenclature? Petty BS to me.
Just clarifying.
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And I have a problem with this statement..........big time. You know I like you WB, but this is a bit much. Sorry.
For me, "Grading," conjured up grading student essays and such. A lot of the TER point system seems to be an odd attempt to quantify aspects that can't really be quantified. Beauty being one. Performance, to some extent another.
Since putting the question out in the OP, I've realized that one of the reasons why I tend to do this handicapping thing is because of a variable anticipation level. If I arrange a date with a high-end escort, usually a few days or a week or more in advance, I cultivate a feeling that, Wow, this is going to be TERRIFIC! So if it's just very good I feel let down. Whereas if I book an afternoon with a low-end provider, and it's a 'very good' experience, I walk away feeling it was more than I'd hoped for.
Beauty, skin-deep, transitory, in-the-eye-of-the-beholder beauty, is affected in somewhat the same way. Every woman tries to present good poses in their stills, and irregardless of photoshopping and whatnot, they select great wardrobe/costuming for the shoot. From these images, a vision of a person is formed, complete with some degree of expected attitude and dynamics. I might visualize her as sultry and mysterious, or bubbly and fun loving, or serene and elegant, or any number of other traits.
The ads also help form the expectation. She might refer to herself as, "Down to earth," for instance, and that's a good quality. But, for example, if she refers to herself as, elegant and sophisticated, and a REVIEWER refers to her as "down to earth," it takes on a different meaning. So all these things form images of who I expect to open the door, but none of it in any concrete tone that I decipher to any degree of intricacy.
So I arrive, and my expectations are ALWAYS wrong to some degree, sometimes more than hoped for, sometimes less.
But, if the expenditure is pocket change, I get a rush of coming across someone very special, and if it's a small investment in my pleasure and happiness, I tend to feel like I'm experiencing pretty much what I expected.
So, later, when I recall the experience, the outstanding woman asking the lower fee might get a nine, but had she requested a larger donation I might feel she warranted only an eight.
I haven't been severely disappointed in over two years, and never since joining TER, but this factor has affected the reviews I've written, and caused me not to bother writing reviews. Several times I've pulled up the profile, started filling information into the slots, and then just decided to exit and forget about it. Of course when the experience is very good, it's easier.
pointing out the choice of words was kinda funny. Of course you can always say how you feel that's what makes this forum go round.
If you only knew...
Your words and how you speak are enough for me. Therefore, you are 'cute' in my book, so there lol.
often could get you some more props.
I thought we were lambchops here.
Feeling, result or goal that you hope to achieve in order to deserve the compensation that you're receiving.
The fact that you believe what you offer is worthy of $600 as opposed to $200 means that you believe you offer much more or better than others. So if you evoke the same results as someone who charges $200 and you charge $600, yes it should be taken into consideration. It has nothing to do with being treated like cattle. It is more about value, and all products, services and people have value. That's a quality that should be considered.
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I personally am not what I would consider 'high-end' by any means but we'll use the two of us as an example just like you did. I charge what I charge for reasons personal to me and for the expenses involved for me to meet with gentlemen in this world. While I do believe that what I offer at the level that I offer validates those rates (in my opinion), you need to understand it has absolutely nothing to do with 'comparing' them to someone like yourself who charges less than me or quite more than me.
The bottomline is we both offer a great service to the same gentlemen and charge what we feel we should that are personal to each of us individually. Again, that is something here in this world that can't be measured by anything as this business is strictly a 'sole proprietorship'. We are all on our own in how we market, package and present ourselves here. That's a conscience choice made by you, by me, by every gal here. But I don't think any woman here deserves to be put up on a pedestal or put down because of the rates she charges and I certainly don't think that a review or the 'grading' system of that review should reflect that either.
I'm a huge proponent of never assuming money equals anything but the fact that you've chosen a lucrative career and are good at it. So charging little or a lot to me isn't indicative of an experience. Just like being able to pay a little or a lot isn't indicative of someone who will be safe and make comfortable.
Given that, you charge what you charge based on your reasons, expenses you incur AS WELL AS THE EXPERIENCE YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE. That's just economics, if that weren't the case, you wouldn't be successful at what you do.
The fact is when someone is evaluating ANYTHING that costs money, they are looking to share whether it succeeded in the goal, and if it did, was it a good value.
I'm afraid that almost every hobbyist on TER has had the experience of "discovering" a talented newby who, after several months of favorable reviews, will raise her rates to the high-end category and then realize too late that the sustainable "high-end" providers are provider much more than she is. Think of the NYTimes restaurant reviews, where the reviewer is infinitely more critical of a "named" four star restaurant--the NYTimes reviewer destroyed The Coach House because of this--than a local one star bistro around the corner in Williamsburg. To men, a delicious 5 Guys burger for $15 is more memorable than the now fixed price dinners in NY which start at $100. For $100 you expect a transcendant experience. And if you don't get a "transcendant" experience, you are deservedly critical and harsh on the experience. A while back, Sonny and I--Santino, where are you?--tried to warn a newbie--Carissa(?)--about inflating her price to the high-end category, telling her as good as she was, she wasn't worth it and there would be a back lash. As they say, you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
As regards the newbie pricing herself out of the market, well, live and learn.
The flip side, should I decide to argue against myself, is the Eliza Doolittle effect.
Higgins tried to browbeat the Cockney street urchin into sounding and acting like an uppercrust lady. Couldn't do it. Then someone started treating her like a lady, and the changes Higgins had tried to achieve suddenly took hold. Eliza became whatever people treated her as. Just saying...
keep your reviews and rating simple according to each experience no matter who the chica is and be done. It is what it is lol. Let us worry about our 'pricing' and what works for us. If it doesn't work for you, then again, it is what it is. See the providers who fit 'you' and don't worry about the ones who don't. Is that keeping it simple enough?
You guys overanalyze everything, it's insane. Good lord. Keep it simple people. The world is a complicated enough place as it is.
I try to be somewhat agnostic of rate when it comes to my scoring, but I could be subconsciously doing the opposite of you based on expectations. I would agree that I am more likely to have my expectations exceeded by a newer provider charging under $500 in NYC than some higher-end provider who has been around a while charging considerably more. But when I am paying up for a 'higher end' experience and my expectations are met, I probably tend to score a bit higher.
Not that I expect TER to ever change it's 1-10 scoring system anytime soon, I have often thought a more effective way to go about the ratings would be to base them on expectations. Did the provider Exceed your expectations, meet them, or fail to meet them. For example, if I decide to meet a provider who has a great website, shows off her real modeling pics (not taken by Aldo), claims that she can make you truly make you 'forget it's a service', and charges $1k an hour, it's going to be pretty hard to exceed my expectations. Alternatively, if I was trolling BP for a last minute date and some relatively new girl with descent pics and a couple of good reviews caught my eye, and she was only charging $300, I am probably expecting a 7/7 type of experience at best. If I ended up lucking out and having an 8/8 or better, my expectations were exceeded...
Isn't that what TER is really all about, did the provider meet your expectations, or not? Also helps with alleviating the 'ego issues' for providers associated with low or high scores on the 1-10 scale for looks and performance.
Food for thought.
Sparta
However, now that a couple of million reviews have been written using the present system, changing would be really, really confusing. The exceed, meet, failed to meet expectations sounds good to me for the reasons you outlined. I've sometimes thought a star system for the total experience would be easier. Was it a five-star experience? A four-star? And on down.
Pointless speculation, though. Better to focus on having the best encounters possible, and if there's uncertainty as to what to say about them, skip reviews altogether.
Side note: Even measurable things like cup size seem arbitrary, unless you took notes during the session. Nobody's going to do that
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I also think that the Academy Awards should be handicapped based on how many millions went into making the film.
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Regardless of cost. If you want to spend 1200 on a provider or you want to spend 200. The experience, visual, sensual, social and visceral all combine in your brain to allow a man who knows his own mind to "score" the session.
To some guys, expectations may be higher based only higher cost, but by raising prices a provider sends multiple messages.
A. That they provide a better service than lower priced providers (many times false)
B. That they deserve more because of appearance (also many times false)
C. Because they have higher costs due to touring, clothing, higher class accommodations, etc. (reasonable and correct reasons for higher rates IMHO)
D. Fame. Their reputation precedes them and their prices rise accordingly (also a reasonable and correct reason for higher rates IMHO, however, a double edged sword which may "price out" the fans who made her rep in the first place.)
E. Not giving a shit and having an inflated opinion of themselves and the services they provide.
Like anything else, price should not affect a review. It should be independent of anything but your experience and how good a time you had. If you paid more than you could afford just to get your rocks off and when after you came you had buyers remorse because a BJ/FS session you just had felt just the same as the $100 quickies you had back in 1992 then who's the fool? Don't take it out on a provider when she gives you what she has advertised for the price she asked for. That's what you base the review on, not the cost. Was the experience good, bad or average or somewhere in between. (Once in a lifetime is exactly that and ANY hobbyist that gives out more than ONE 10 is lying at least once.)
is if we "click" and both have a wonderful time together. Dollars have nothing to do with that. In that sense, "high end" always gets a higher rating/score from me.
But the term 'high-end' does refer to dollars in general parlance, so what you're saying is that high-end is less of an indicator of potential enjoyment with any given lady than hitting it off or clicking. But high-end has to keep it's definition. Communication rather depends on that.
Why would I call a lampshade a coffeepot? Because I want to? I often wish language worked that way. Life would be so much easier.
to provoke a different logical path: That an objective scoring system, of itself, could as well define high-end and low-end - and that in a much more reliable manner than can rates.
Scores, IMHO, should reflect the providers appearance and performance only. Too many forces other than the actual experience come into play where rates are involved (supply/demand, region/city, ego, advertising and hotel costs).
Thus, I don't believe a review bias based upon rates is a good thing. The two are not necessarily related.
...I'm not suggesting that such a handicap SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be a factor, just that I find it creeping into my evaluation. So, yeah, chemistry, the magic, the click, whatever are the things that determine the quality. If anything could be argued on that point it would just be the YMMV factor. Because the magic was there for you doesn't mean it will be there for me. Means magic is possible, I guess. Which is something.
There are things the reviews indicate that really help with the process. CBJ or BBBJ, PSE or GFE (or some balance). The amount of remuneration tells you nothing concrete.
can charge 500 or 600 but if she were to visit St. Louis or even Miami, she will not get the same interest from guys. From what I have seen, rates in NYC, Las Vegas, and LA are higher than most cities. Even Boston and Chicago have good options in the 350 or 400 range.
Similarly, chain restaurants, take Ruth Chris for example, don't charge the same amount in all locations for a particular item.
I assume that you pay more because you expect to get more out of the session. Likewise, paying less, you expect less. Then you grade according to how well your expectations were fulfilled.
Hmmm... Given that, are civvies automatic 10/10s?
No, they are not automatically 10/10. They are time consuming and emotionally draining. To the degree that they demand less of my attention, their score usually creeps up. Sometimes, they just demand so LITTLE attention that I just wander off and eat, drink, sleep, and eventually, somehow, find my way back to... well, you get the idea.