Why are black providers so surprised to see well to do educated black hobbyist ? I was told by one that only white guys do the hobby.

I have seen nothing of this, but if you have, then I am not surprised, I guess. Many providers use terms such as 'upscale' and 'executive' to screen some would-be's out, but most only want green as in cash. There are some black providers who do not see black customers for fear that they might meet someone they know or hook-up with their daddy's friends. Others have a fear and loathing of their own race (it happens). If you are being told that I suspect she doesn't see lots of black me because, by income, the majority of black men are not like you and may be unable to pay the freight. On the other hand, many black men hobby in the major cities as I travel. You have only to attend one of the socials to see that it's mostly an equal opportunity fuck fest. My advice, branch out  and make love to white providers, Latinas, native americans, and all of the rest of the rainbow. I wouldn't be discouraged by her comments nor would I take it to be something sinister... Hobby hard.



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I can’t believe someone actually turned her mouth to speak those silly words! Some chickens have nothing better to do than to cluck about a bunch on nothing. Last time I checked the only criteria for being a hobbyist was money. It has nothing to do about race.I have quite a few well-to-do educated black hobbyists that request my presence on a very regular basis! As a woman of color, I embrace encounters from all nationalities. It would be imprudent to say racism doesn’t exist in the hobby, for it exists in the outside world. However, a man with intelligence, ambition and drive has always been a sure way to get my panties wet, regardless of his race.

I do feel that a woman has a right to her preferences, in concerns to her body. If she is not comfortable in sleeping with a particular race, that is her right not to do so. As long as she is upfront on her website about her preferences, and is very clear about it, then I don't see any issues. There are some acts itself, that I would not do, regardless of how much money was offered to me.

We all need to remember that there is NO rule book, on whom an escort should see, what acts she must do, etc. Until then, a women should run her business as she sees fit, regardless of how other's may feel. She may not get much business from her preferences, but that is for her to deal with, NOT for us to sit on our thrones and judge. I certainly don't want to be judged for not wanting to do certain acts, which I may feel that are not suitable for me.

For those gents who feel outraged by a particular woman's preference, should take his money elsewhere, and give to another provider, who he may feel is deserving of his hard earned cash.









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Shouldn't compound adjectives be hyphenated and like this: "Why are black providers so surprised to see well-to-do[,] educated[,] black hobbyist[s]"

..I’m definitely not sitting on my throne and judging any lady’s preference, but like most people, I call it like I see it. I believe the issue of discussion was the abundance/lack of well to do black hobbyists. For someone to say that only white guys hobby IS far fetched. At one point or another, all ladies, for various reasons have been contacted by men of all kinds of racial backgrounds. Her decision to see them or not is irrelevant. A guy’s decision to contact her for an appointment is irrelevant. These topics deserve their own thread. Preferences are to be expected. We all have them. Just like posting under an alias as appose to posting under your screen name. It’s a preference.

I'm not surprised. They usually worry about black hobbiest like me because of our dick size. Many providers know that a blackman isn't coming to "talk" or "cuddle." They coming to beat it up, for most of the hour, with little "down time." I have learned to warn providers that I have BIG MUSCLES, so i don't waste there time and mine. Many can't deal with it, or know they can't have another hobbiest waiting after me. I've learned to deal with it, TRUST ME!!!

posting under an alias, is my preference I like to call it like I see it, just the same. Glad to see we are on the same page

I wasn't posting to dump on anyone in general, but to  clarify that everyone has a preference whether it be right or wrong, it is what is is: a preference.






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I'm not a rookie at this, but I still didn't realize that hobbying or providing were racial things. I always thought they were about personal tastes & pleasures.

think you could handle me Magnum Man!!!  I'll turn your "Big Muscle" into a limp noodle.  You think you can hurt providers with that wimpy thing between your legs? I can deep throat that little worm of yours, take your full load, and spit it back at you. This is one provider you can't "beat it up on". I'll ride that inch worm of yours, and make you beg for mercy. Then Magnum you're gonna eat me, and I'm gonna squirt my pork gravy on you 'til you drown. You got that? You're gonna be my bitch, and if you disrespect any more providers, I'm gonna Bitch Slap your sorry ass 'til you whimper like a little girl. I'm not letting any of my sisters in the hobby be knocked around by your wimpy ass!

Perhaps what she said is being taken out of context a tad. For plenty of us, I'm sure it isn't an issue of not wanting to see black men but simply not having many black male callers. I know that's the case here in Omaha most definitely. So, I can see where it might shock someone to finally be contacted by a black client.

Education level is irrelevant in this scenario.

Of the black male hobbyists I have met with, all were well-educated. But that's no surprise since the majority of my clientele overall is well-educated. High levels of education being correlated with professional success.  Success leading to how they're able to afford this hobby.  

Seems pretty clear-cut to me.  

Abbey Marie

Hahaha, and the bullshit continue's.

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Apparently all that blood flow to your massive member leaves your brain starved for oxygen leading to moronic posts such as the one you just authored.

It could be the type of client she attracted was primarily white.  At least 20% of my "special friends" were black.  30% Hispanic, 10% asian and 40% Caucasian.  Most were middle to upper middle class with a number of very wealthy ones in between.  At least 75% of all were married.

and then another 5% fell into the "other category.

So while black hobbyists may be a little under-represented at 6% (versus about 13% (?) of the population), it's certainly not like they don't exist.

As for the second part about being well-educated and affluent, based on what I've seen on this board and elsewhere, those two commodities seem to be in short supply for ALL ethnicities (especially the well-educated part)!

Maybe black providers just assume that black guys have more "game" than white guys so they're surprised to see them as customers.  I've got to admit, they do seem to know how to meet women in the civilian world better than anyone else I've known.  I've watched in awe on more than one occasion.

If a lady won't see me fine, I move on.Plenty ladies black or white that will see me.

I don't "out" ladies because of their preferences, it's their body and they choose to see who they want to. Just let me know up front before I get to the door.

Funny thing happen to me in the hobby.. About four yrs ago I was home in Atl and wanted to have some fun. I called this agency and they sent this young lady over. I looked out the peep hole and lo and behold my ex girlfriend daughter was at the door. I changed this girl diapers when she was a baby, I took her and mom and her on vacation to Disneyland. I had fucked her mom a couple nights before she came to my room.. lol I let her in and we both crack up. She begged me not to tell her mom and I asked her the same thing.. lol I gave her the donation and we both had a good laugh (I didn't fuck her..yuck)but I have never called another agency in Atlanta. This is the main reason some ebony providers won't see brothers because they might run into their father/mother friends..lol

BTW; Magnum Man; the ladies drop 10 pound babies out their p$$$y, so you are not killing anything. Treat the ladies nice and they will treat you the same way. Just some FYI brother..

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I have had very few requests for appointments from black clients for whatever reason. And the few that I have had have all been absolutely wonderful but it is still a little shocking when he calls and says, "Oh, by the way, I'm black. Is that a problem?" I guess they may have surprised some other women who, by phone, could not gauge their ethnicity and were perhaps even denied service because of it. It happens to black women just as much, whose voices may not reveal their ethnicity. I have noted many occasions where I've met people online (not in this hobby) and had not exchanged pictures who bluntly told me they expected me to be lily white (smile!).  The world is changing and many people are slowly, but surely, starting to realize that more and more 'minorities' have greater access to education and speak standard American English free of regional/ethnic accent..(smile)Keep on truckin'!

Your comment about not seeing their own race matches up with a comment I heard.

I had an Ebony lady tell me she won't see a member of her own race due to the "large criminal element and disease risk" - her words not mine. Apparently she feared for both her physical safety as well as being mugged. She also complained that too many Black men go bareback.

If a white guy or gal had said what she said, they would have been labled a racist. To tell the truth, I was blown away by her statements, they were totally unexpected and out of the blue. In fact, I found it a turnoff. I didn't review her and never went back.

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Man to Man, i'm disappointed

I don't have time to correct you now. But I will say this. I have NEVER "gone down on a provider for ANY reason" That's just me. I had no intention of disrespecting providers, but i won't take back anything i said. If your a boxer, and that is the job you choose, one day your going to meet someone younger and stronger, and is going to give you the fight of your life. It comes with the territory. Providers should be aware of the same. If you take your "work" seriously, you can't make excuses when you've met your match. Think about it

An Asian provider told she doesn't see blacks because she was robbed after she had sex with a black. But, she was also robbed by a white man posing as cop and then had sex with him and still sees white men.

That's almost too funny to comment. First, all ladies have the absolute right to choose whom they share their worldly possessions with, hands down. The trouble with the hobby is so few look beyond the things that make us all unique, different, and special. When people give into stereotypes or harbor ill feelings toward a group or a race, they honestly miss the point of being human. There will always be bad asses among any group, but the preponderance of evidence suugests at this level of hobbying the greater % of people regardless of race, only want to have a great time. I stick to that when I venture out to meet someone. I have been rarely disappointed and such is the case in life, you are not going to hit it off with everyone you meet. I do however suggest that providers and hobbyists make their preferences known. I for example, will not see an Asian woman for escorting purposes; their body types do nothing for me and I find them stiff and cold. Now is everyone like that; no, but I have tried on 3 occasions and none of them knocked my socks off. That's good enough evidence for me that I don't see Asians for that kind of encounter.

i am never surprised to see educated black men

if that is what turns a girl on, go for it!!

personally its not what turns me on