How important is image to you guys in this business? Do you require a provider be intelligent, or just hot? Do you care if she has pro photos and spends time creating a website that reflects her personality and sets her apart, or do you just want the goods?  Do you appreciate a sense of humor or prefer a girl be boring, dry, and always politically correct? I already know the answers, but enlighten the others will ya.

When I started in this business, I had agency mentality because that was what I did before I ever escorted myself...ran an agency, and still do actually. I charged a fair fee, but did not offer gfe nor was it msog. You won't find reviews for that, because there are none under London Rayne, but trust me...I was there for about a year. I will say, that a part of me misses those types of dates, because I too get bored having to do the same shit over and over. There are days I would just like to blow a guy, let him CIM, and that's all he wants too, but no way I could charge a premium for that lol.

As I progressed and took the time to think about image, things changed. My reviews were better and on TER vs. some lame ass wannabe site with nothing but bottom feeders, my rates increased three times since 2008, and I get a better quality of clientele that are more focused on the "date" and not just the number of pops. So, I maintain that image is everything in this business for those guys who actually consider such things.  I also realize that if you're young, hot, and cheap, many guys don't give a flying fk about your brain lol, so no absolutes on this one I guess.

What about my mouth and what it does for my image...well ok, you got me, but even my outbursts and ramblings have attracted the very type of MANLY men, I want to see. I find guys who can't even handle a strong opinion on a fk board without resorting to such immature statements such as"You don't like your job," and "You are off my list," are gong to be the most demanding cry babies in person, so why bother?

Ok, flame away lol.

I like to DFK and get blown. I don't give a fuck about greek so if girl doesn't offer that, it doesn't bother me Also I like getting my prostate massaged while getting blown. So if she does that, that's the icing on the cake.  So that's the physical aspect..

As far as the personality goes, I like the bubbly type girls... Also I like the quiet types.. I like quiet types because they are typically good at listening to me run my mouth...

Its all about me...damnit...

Don't care much about website. As long as she doesn't have heavily photoshoped photos, I am OK.

OK...I am not done yet.. I like them asking me... "In your vast hobbying experience, what should I......"

Then watch me give them advice, and they pretend to listen and take notes...


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What do you like in the girl...What personality do you prefer?...I did answer it....

You already know the answers London, but let me confirm that professional and tasteful photos are a minimum for me to consider booking with a provider, except for the days when I am feeling too horny or cheap, generally happens simultaneously, lol.

Wary of talkative girls, who can be indiscrete and limit the time for fun, but I love your arguments, never miss reading them!!!

There has to be that certain je ne sais quoi, and I have a ridiculously high standard where the bar has been most definitely set, and met by only one gal. Been with a bunch and most don't measure up. Some would say that I play with fire, but I enjoy it. I've never been a variety type, I'd rather draught deeply.

So..fostering an image can definitely grant some insight into personality which I value greatly. But, if it seems disingenuous, no matter how polished, that's a huge turnoff. I like a zest and an honest approach..nobody is perfect.

Fucking is great and all that, but it can be boring like McDonald's. Now, when you're fucking someone who fucks you mind, body & soul...

That's where it's at!

Classy looking yet sexy. Some makeup but not too much. Hair done nicely. I want to have a good time but still have lots of laughs and some good conversation during recuperation time. As far as the sex I want what I can't get at home (which is most everything LOL) and I either want the lady to be a great actress or really get into the sex as well. DFK and loving DATY is a must. To me if the lady seems to be really loving it then so am I. Also I hate it when you get the feeling that the most important thing is the clock on the bedside. Thankfully I've only had that happen once.

So, it's a new question each time as to whether or not to see someone.

If I could even draw out the equation it would fill more room than TER allows on here.

Bottom line is that I would see you London because in addition to having great looks and reviews, you come off as someone that would be a lot of fun to be with - and isn't that what it's all about anyways?

I don't care if she didn't graduate from Harvard, has 20 years of sex experience or what not. It is all about the attitude. Things don't have to be perfect. Hell if she wants to please me, listen to my problems, and constantly try to improve our time for the better, that is what counts.

If you didn't help me learn to make a roux, you would be off my list!

Seriously though. I like to laugh. So a provider with a funny side is a big plus for me.
I actually avoid ladies who seem too serious with ads and sites etc.
I also like artistic women. Painters, writers, poets, musicians.
Most of this will come across in a ladies website one way or another.
So I guess the image she portrays on her site does have an effect on my decision.
I have enough serious shit going on in my life.
I'll get hammered on this... But looks aren't everything.
Don't get me wrong. I want to be able to look at her while we fuck.
Lets just say the best sex I ever had was not with the best looking woman I have been with.
My decision is based on chemistry first. Looks second.
Seldom what looks good, and feels good are the same.
So far, in my limited experience the young hot, and cheap girls are robotic. I'm still looking for the super young, mentally mature, funny, nymphomaniac. She will get all of my money. LMAO

But I do kinda like big boobs as well.
Humor plus silky dancer legs
Compassion plus passion
Intelligence plus  a sensual mouth
Candid opinions plus a firm butt
Conversational skills plus the ability to stfu and simply f
Self awarness plus flexibility

smile

over looks. Within reason. No fatties. LOL

A provider’s image is developed through posts, site, maybe an M &G and of course reviews.   I do appreciate when the provider is intelligent and not just hot.  I like the professionalism of pro photos as it indicates the potential for taking the trust of the hobby seriously.   A well crafted website that reflects her personality and sets her apart also indicates professionalism.  I do appreciate a sense of humor, and there is no need to always be politically correct.

Of course after I get through this early screening including reviews, what I most like in a provider is me.

For me image implies attitude.  I want a fun, enjoyable, relaxing date with a woman who knows how to make that happen.  A professionally done web site implies a woman who cares about what she does and will make an effort to do it well.  A fun quirky site is a plus.  A site full of rules and commands is a negative.

Looks, beyond a certain minimal threshhold, are not that important.  Personality is key.  Intelligence and education increases the chances of a good date, but most important is friendly self-confidence and a genuine enjoyment of people and, yes, sex.  Sex is great and the raison d'etre of the whole transaction, but it doesn't last the whole hour (at least for me).  A nice, enjoyable personal interaction with a woman who seems interested in me for the rest of the date is a necessity.

.................... in my mind that in your case London, your board persona may influence whether or not a man sees you, but as you say, that's a good thing.  Personally, I enjoy a sharp verbal repartee with a hot woman.  As to your web site, it is an example of a great site, IMHO.  You pictures opening the way they do adds to a great web site experience and of course you are fkn hot to look at.  Your body type is one I personally find VERY attractive.  So bottom line with me it is several items such as posting persona (for those ladies who have one) web site and pixs and of course reviews that attract me and a great erotic experience in person that keeps me cuming     I am primarily a dinner date and erotic desert guy and you strike me as a woman who enjoys this.  I do admit however to not being into sarcasm in person, even though I do enjoy it in a board persona so long as it's not over the top.  As I wrote you recently, here in Minnesota we have a mayor of the mythical town of Garage Logic on talk radio.  He is a purveyor of common sense, just as you are here on the board.  I guess that makes you the honorary mayor of TERville...omg, now that could be scary....The Honorable Ms. Mayor...   LOL



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I actually do NOT talk much on dates if you can believe that. There are ways to shut me the f up ha ha.

Learning every day.

I agree with everything you said.  I think a website is nice but it's not a deal breaker for me.  It's not just the looks and brains it's how a women acts, moves, and feels.  Guys love that stuff.  I do anyway.   I love confidence in a women and it appears that you have that.   The more I read your board posts the more I like you and are understanding you.    Sorry for any rumbles we have had in the past on these boards.  I do like your style  ;  

FID

As long as I don't have to listen.

I do like confident, accomplished women. I also like women who have the guts to disagree with me. Makes me want to fuck them more.

hi London,

Intelligence, or lack thereof, is not an issue!! All I care about is that the woman & I click, she has a sense of humor,  & Is fun!! Some websites are well done, witty & fun to read!! They sometimes give me a sense of what the woman is like!! However, I've read a few websites that were plain, but the woman was just as awesome!! I've come to enjoy your persona on this board, so that wouldn't be the deal breaker in a lady i was looking to book, as long as she had the aforementioned qualities I am looking for in a session!!

and what did you learn? That we aren't all a bunch of knuckle dragging cromagnon men?

Speak for yourself

I prefer Neanderthals  

In some sense, it's just real-life sped up.

In real life, you are first attracted to someone physically, and then you end up hopefully hooking up and having sex, and then beyond that if it remains, you need to dig them on some other level than just fucking.

Being a provider is just the same thing (for me), just sped up.

Hi HOC,

I've met a couple women who were into the arts!! They were fun!! There's an artsy woman who I wish would visit my town!! She thinks outside the box in that she's a free thinker & accepts payment in silver!! quirky? yes, but I like quirky!! The best sessions I've had w/ women are the ones who were not the hottest looking, but the ones who I connect w/ during an appt! Early in my hobby career I had that hot , robotic type that you talked about!! After each act she asked me "what else can I do for you?" UGH!!

EAch new session for me is a new learning experience for me, I find that the deeper down the rabbit hole I go the more my taste change. it is becoming more and more important to me that the image portrayed is that a person who actually cares about what they do.

Menu menu menu... I don't treat each date as if I'm standing in line at a Chinese buffet... If there something that were doing that seems to be working I tend to like to stick with it. But I found that even a vanilla session with a provider that has a full menu is a helluva lot better then the reverse. So now we have the image of being laid back...

Looks... Totally subjective. For me I like short girls built somewhere between spinner and soccer player. Hair colors important, breast size not important, looking like you take care of yourself very important.

Attitude... Could be reflected in your website, could just be reflected in your reviews, or like you it could be reflected on a board post. I absolutely love a confident woman, I love a woman who is not afraid to speak up. If you don't display confidence on your website, if you want display confidence on a board post, how can I expect you to display confidence in the sack. During a session if there's good communication, then everybody can get what they want.

London, anybody who wouldn't see you because you speak out, is a jackass. Since most guys will spend the majority of the sessions in a refractory period... To end up having to be a great session, there has to be great conversation. Since conversation is 2 people exchanging ideas... How can somebody have that with a person who's so passive. And I know I've said this before, but if I ever get the chance to come visit you, you best treat me the exact same way that you do here... Lol

I will start with pictures. Professional pictures are great and are supposed to make you look good, but I like a mix of candid shots as well. It gives a better representation of the girl you are going to see.

Personality...well let's see. Personality or the persona portrayed on a hooker board is like an actress in a play. It may not actually be who you are in real life. There are elements of the real you, but its not who you will run into at the grocery store or a real life job. I have the pleasure of knowing both sides of you and both are very fun to be around. So I guess I would say I look at the pics, that attitude I look for humor which you have plenty of. I also look for someone I would want to spend a couple of hours with

What can I say. I'm short, and I have really long arms!
And the guy above just called us all erudite.
I am insulted by all of this!
I am a cromangina thank you.

Very well said!  Small minded men (usually, not always) just wanna f--- like gorillas...intelligent & refined men want the whole package...yes of course there are exceptions!  I'm a FBSM provider so not FS but life experience has shown me many things that no "hobby" ever could.

First, you are right. Image is everything. People make instant first-impressions that highly influence everything they experience afterward. So, the promotion/advertisement sets an important tone. Then, comes the first physical impression. If those clearly reflect what image the provider is looking to present, then the rest will go very well!!

It seems to me that it depends on what experience the provider wants. You seem clear on what you want and therefore tailor your image to that clientele. It seems that the more polished, professional, and honest someone is (whether it be a provider, a self-help speaker, or actress), the more in demand they will be. Then they can really be particular about who, when, where, what they will provide (and the more they can charge). I appreciate a professional, clean, and visual website. From the reviews I have read men seem to enjoy (or simply get off on) pleasing the provider. Thus, the more information the man has about the provider's tastes, likes/dislikes, services, etc. the more he can use them to provide a better experience for both (ideally). The congruence part comes in with the whole in-person performance. Whatever image a provider wants to cultivate there is the need to back it up with consistent behaviors. If a provider wants more of a "date" feeling, then that means dressing, talking, and greeting the man as if it was a date. That means providing warmth/inviting, openness, curiosity. It means building foreplay based on what the provider has found out about the man during the first part of the "date". It means letting the guy know what you like, getting into it, and helping him clean up afterward (guys seem to really like the wet towel and HATE when the woman just gets up).  Ultimately, I agree with you - image is everything.

Yes, she must be intelligent and not just hot.
Pro photos are nice, as long as they aren't touched up too much and are representative of her.

Neanderthals do walk erect, don't they?

And the funny part is that I'm moderated so TER read it...approved it...and you are clearly a scared little boy!!

Come on asses8....you claim to be an attorney...at least pretend to be able to defend your idiotic and moronic stalking posts.

BTW...there's a special at K-Mart on balls and backbones.  Be sure to get a few extras.


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I easily  find hot providers more intelligent than me , without even looking .
 Everyone has their specialty , mine is well hidden .
 
I just want the goods .
 A sense of humor is icing on the nipples .
If she giggles when she cums all the better .

 I've only had boring sessions with civilians .

 Politically correct was invented  for wimps and doodle bugs  .
 
 I would rather fuck a watermelon than a woman without
an opinion .

 Are you sure you are finding  manly men and not mans men ?
 There is a  difference you know .
 Just Saying      


 

Their constant hard ons would have precluded sexual intercourse.

It is a discussion as to whether homo sapiens and neanderthals bred:

"H. sapiens neanderthalis live in ice age Europe and the Middle East, before becoming extinct about 35,000 to 40,000 years ago. Although scientist are not in agreement, it appears that Homo Sapiens Sapiens (modern humans) developed independently of the Neanderthals, and probably did not interbreed (since they lived along side one another for millennia with scanty fossil evidence of cross over in genes). The Neanderthals made extensive use of tools (though not to the extent of H. Sapiens Sapiens. Some of the burials are of aged or handicapped people who the Neanderthals must have felt important enough to care for. Scientists are divided as to whether Neanderthals were capable of speech."

I have a hunch that a few neanderthals indeed survived....a few still post here on TER.

Kids got enough money to pay for a hooker or two.

But he is a nice kid... Hate to see anyone hobbying at that age...

Hey Tebow is still a virgin... At least so he says

That has crossed my mind a few times.

And I'll bet he loves the showers after the game.

Just sayin  

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But he is a nice kid... Hate to see anyone hobbying at that age...

Hey Tebow is still a virgin... At least so he says

when you  have a good looking guy that is never associated with another female romantically...

Well... even if he is,  he is well mannered, cultured...nice kid... I like him.. Wish fat ass Ryan will give him more chance to play....Enough with Sanchez...

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I've watched the kid play...and trust me...he's NOT an NFL QB.

If you want a comparison...Bobby Douglas played for the Bears many moons ago...same type of build and strength.  Fun to watch as he ran around like an asshole...but couldn't throw worth a shit.

Towards the end of his "career" he finally said to the Bears "I'll play tight end"...and had he converted early on it would have been a winner.  Tebow is in a very similar position.  

Believe me you don't want to see this kid under center.

as a QB. Although, he did take Denver in 2nd round of Playoffs last year...

I just don't think that Jets is the right fit for him. The team is in shambles...

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College is a different game.

Linebackers and linemen can run nearly as fast as this kid in the NFL.

Convert him to a TE and see how that plays out.  Honestly I wouldn't want to see him as a backup for a contender...given how many starters have gone done.  And the kid is a single dimensional player.

Thanks for asking this, Londoon! (keeps me flame-free for another day) ;-P

Erect, enjoys tool usage and not much on talking. Yup, there's still a few of those around.

I'm learning that I want a synthesis of these things in a provider:
Wit/Charisma.
Looks.
Grooming.
CIM.

I QUICKLY learned from my second provider ever that kindness goes a long way. Case in point- I pride myself on being well mannered, so I look for the same. She asked me what I would like her to wear, and even what color/shoes. Yes, I know she's a pro, but it was a really generous thing to ask, and she did it in such a way that it impressed me to no end. Add great looks and a nice perfume and look out.
Regarding "attitude". Banter and playfulness are a huge bonus, and if they are unforced, even better.
Another point about image- As an adult, I tend to overlook the girls who take a cell phone pic in the mirror and are bargains.
It personally doesn't do much for me, since I like women.

on her website, the image she portrays in board posts, her appearance, the cleanliness of her incall, etc. all add up to the total package.

That being said, I still regard performance over physical appearance when I consider who I am going to see. That is why I read the details in the reviews; for me, the big head does the thinking not the little head.

just be hot and good at faking an interest in me. having some kind of personality is a plus, but its more about being enjoyable in some way rather than acting a certain kind of way. if i can talk to you and be interested, thats great...but if not, we can put your mouth to better use and i will still be happy.  dont care much about a website, pics dont matter too much as long as you have some and they are you.

Actually, we like you because of it, believe it or not. We like the fact that you're a no-BS person. Very cool in my book.

Every guy's looking for something different but I like a provider who's intelligent, funny, hot, sexy, and has a great personality and can hold a conversation without that awkwardness of us not knowing each other becoming a liability. I like a straight-shooter who doesn't play games with her rates or makes it damn near impossible to figure out what her rate really is. YOUR image to me is your board persona, what others say about you, and how we interact in PM's. There's nothing fake about you (that I know of, haven't met the girls, lol). We know going in what we're getting, a blabber mouth with an opinion about everything who also has a great rep for her, umm, skills.

Web site appearance is important for attracting the type of clients you're targeting. I like professional pics but not if they're photo-shopped to cover flaws.

Just like you wishing you could take time off from the GFE/MSOG occasionally, we might just want the new young hottie coming through town and to hell with web sites and image. The initial attraction isn't any different than in civvie life but whether we continue seeing you depends on many things with personality a major ingredient for establishing a long-term clientele.

Obviously intelligent people are more fun to hang out with and possibly more creative in bed, but there's also a practical reason to prefer a more intelligent provider - the smarter they are the more able they are to truly be discreet and careful.  They are more likely to really be able to protect information on a computer, or not let something slip when they should not.   They are more likely to get tested often, to use protection more often.

I think at the top end a lot of guys are probably paying more to increase the chances that everything will go well without unpleasant surprises - before, during and after a session.

He's a total closet case...

When men care about the value of the image a provider is trying to cultivate.
The consensus here seems to be that the persona a provider has will determine her clientele, but it can't be  *too* much of a persona or it becomes a turnoff.

Though, I'm sure there are hobbyists that could give a flying-- about a provider's image and her qualities beyond sex.


It seems to me like your mouth and penchant for vigorous discourse actually enhances your appeal here, rather than being a negative.

Wait...people don't read always *all* the posts in a thread???

I think I have been doing the internet wrong...

posts lol. That was a classic post.

I will be sure to cook for you first though, then beat the crap out of you with words ha ha.

You can't have roux without flour...

For the record...I have a blonde, brown, brick red, and almost black roux in the freezer...

Yup, you can freeze roux. I make a MEAN duck gumbo...

I guess you MUST use file powder...

I find guys who can't even handle a strong opinion on a fk board without resorting to such immature statements such as"You don't like your job," and "You are off my list," are gong to be the most demanding cry babies in person, so why bother?

High maintenance and too hard to please I will avoid like a case of ebola...I also do not see "buffet types either...

blow me and let me c.i.m and you could offer a discount and i won't tell anyone(lol!)
like you said,if your young,hot and cheap (95%of guys)could care less

  Although counter intuitive to merely a submissive three holed, warm blooded sperm spatoon; a gal with some sass can pique the libido of the mind as well as the loins.

.   I would think that those desiring only quiet, obedient, opinion-less sexual subordinates could also lend themselves to be dullards on other social levels.

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I think this is true of most intelligent people.  Speaking or writing poorly is a turn off for me.  

Nah, the oil vs butter really did work. I fucked up the spices though. Way too hot!
If you want potatoes, chicken cutlets, or penne a la vodka come to my house.
You definitely don't want to try my experiments.

I'm not experienced in the hobby, but to me, image is very important. I think someone who is intelligent and interesting to talk to more than just "the weather was shitty today", would make a lot better of a provider that I would want to see repeatedly. I would prefer to see someone who takes time in their website to better set themselves apart from other providers and to give you a better feel for the type of session to expect.

You, for example, I would like to meet. It's probably a combination of your TER posts, your website, and your reviews. Unfortunately for me, I do not have references and am not located near you. Womp womp.

It has a slightly different smoke point, so it's easier to make a roux that doesn't toast past color as quickly. Also, as soon as it hits golden, I add a small amount of shrimp stock. It keeps the entire batch even in terms of flavor.

anything darker, you gotta go with oil, better yet...

Pork lard!!!!



Did I tell you I make a ruthlessly good gumbo?

lmao

Oh yeah, my Italian is to die for...

I'd make you fat.

As far as what I like when picking a lady.  It is a combination of several factors.  Looks, personality, and sense of humor jump to the front of the list of things I look at.  The photos have to be accurate and not photo shopped to death.  If the photos make the lady look too fake it is a turnoff, plus it almost gives the impression of hiding something.  The personality has to be one that doesn’t seem fake.  While the appointment is a business transaction I would prefer the lady actually enjoy the time also.  If it seems more like a real life encounter then I am much happier.  No matter the subtext or role playing involved I prefer it to feel like something from real life as opposed to a paid for nut.  Sense of humor is important to me because I have one and appreciate a good one.   Humor makes people more comfortable and makes conversations go smoother.  
These are just a few of my criteria.  I will also add there is always the almighty X factor.  We all know it when we can see it but can’t quite explain it.  The X factor peaks the interest when the combination of the ladies qualities is just right.  
London, I do believe your image enhances your image because you come across as honest.  While I haven’t met you I am under the impression that what you see and read is what you get when dealing with you.  An attractive, educated, funny, sexual, and attentive lady who does not deal with BS aimed at herself or others.  I don’t really see how those qualities can be viewed as bad.  

Thanks babe !!  We cal always agree to disagree but at the end of the day still fuck like rabbits. ;  

for me i dont have a set image. I like to role play and be different things. i may wanna be a pse greek hungry animal for a few then i may say treat me like a virginal little school girl who s never done this before,
i think being unpredictable , in a god way, and changin it up ,
is also apealing and the guys whom like variety can become a regular if a lady doesnt fall into routine and continually has new sessions and new activities. I heard one client compare me to another provider in that he likes the different activities we have , he told me about walking into a session and she had a thing attached to bed to tied him u too!
which is a great idea.
I know for me I have the hippy chic aspect with my hopi indian symbolism tattooes . Then i have a goth chic image with my hr giger and bats tattooed in my back, then i have a classy prep bicth side that always is wearin a french manicure.
I think as long as your being yourself and showing them a fun time .
I do also notice forme i am getting alot better appts with and since the new web site, possiblty because i am not the web master so it is in turn actually legible. I saved n paid some one to handle it and now I suppose the more high class guys are coming. that want over 2 hour dates.

It was interesting to read all the different responses.  Excellent topic thread.

We are very similar my dear, and I love you for it I'm pickin up what your puttin down...
LOL

Oh I remember your name from somewhere.....I do both sides of the biz independent seeing one guy a day and work at my friend's incall two days.  I can honestly say I prefer the incall thing as the dates intrude too much on your life, you have to be around all the time and you then make it your social life where as I like my friends' to be my social life. Who cares if you give your oponion you aren't a blow up robot who says yes I agree with everything you say bec you're a client. A lot of guys will like that and those are the ones you will feel comfy with and so then not hate what you do.