I was recently stood up by a provider who has good reviews on TER.  I had never met her.  I drove two hours to her hotel and knocked on her door at exactly the scheduled time only to find nobody there. Since one can't write a review on TER about a provider one hasn't met, I would like some input from both clients and providers on how to deal with this situation.  I would like to hear from clients who have had a similar experience.

I have been stood up by two providers. Both ladies are well reviewed and very successful. I learned later that both of the ladies tend to make appointments that they do not have full intentions of keeping.

Try contacting previous reviewers prior to scheduling a date.

I have had this happen as well.  I was actually stupid enough to make a second appointment with the same lady to the same end.  

I think that we all know that there can be extenuating circumstances and for that we should forgive and forget.  We all also know that the guys do their share of no shows as well, perhaps more.  

I would like Staff to consider a review catagory for no-shows.  This would be a YMMV issue, but when a provider starts to generate a collection of these it might influence the next potential client to reconsider.  Hell, we could weigh a series of no-shows against a stack of 8's, 9's and 10's and come to the conclusion that a given proveder is worth the chance of the no-show in hopes of the performance of a lifetime.

..I too had a no show (was an earlier thread below)...I called to see what happened and she said quite matter of fact that a previous client had contacted her AFTER me...this is unprofessional in my opinion although I think a number of providers out there would agree with her choice.  I also think that TER should have a 'number of no-shows' w/o reviews (obviously) that appear on the profile.  That way, we at least know our odds at the outset.  

All you need do is name the no show providers involved right here on this discussion board.

Yea, but two weeks from now the post will be buried.  Better to have the category in the provider profile/review.  Then I can search and find the review months later.

in the subject line. Then, when you are doing your research on the ladies, remember to also do a message search with her name on the local board nearest to her and see if they've posted anything about her.

This is a 'work around' solution until or if TER comes up with another way.

In the meantime, you should book with me! I've never cancelled or not shown yet! LOL!

Yes it would be better if there was a way to identify provider no shows on the reviews so all the information regarding a provider would be in one spot.  However it would be better for the information to be posted on a discussion board rather than not at all.  As other posters on previous threads have noted some hobbyists need to grow a pair of balls and post the information on the discussion board.  I imagine it is hard for staff to justify the programming efforts and other problems associated with no show reviews, when most hobbyists seem to be afraid to identify the ladies in public.

Thank you for the invitation, Sedona, but I'm on the East Coast.

A west-coast provider had announced that she would be visiting my city in early November.  When I contacted her, she said that she would have to change her schedule, and she did so several times; I went along with it.  Last week, she announced that she would definitely be here tomorrow (Sunday).  Yesterday she sent me an email in which she announced that we would not be getting together.

It is so very frustrating to be 'strung along', then dumped at the last minute.  At least I didn't have to drive to the hotel, only to find that she wasn't there.

Things happen, however no one got hurt. No need to
cry over spilled milk. Forget about her and move on
to another provider...don't tell me you are in Boise,
Idaho where they only have 1 provider to be shared by
the whole town! However if you are anywhere near San Diego,
RUN over to Sedona and tell us all about it!

-SF-


-- Modified on 11/29/2003 5:39:36 PM

smacking a little box in the provider profile while it is important if a repeated pattern.. Could be a fantastic tool for evil little vendictive weenus boys looking to settle a tab
( and reading some of the reviews they do indeed exist )

I really like Sedona's idea. Put the provider name in the subject line so it pulls in messages as well and that could be certainly a helpful tool . It will also be a great way for a provider to get back to you.
Good example. Jada was on her way to Penascola this last week and had a fender bender. She was MIA for several days and unable to contact any of the Florida gals including her close friend Susan who was very worried. Another provider also recently came down for a visit was deathly ill her whole 3 days here and literally passed out in her hotel.
During that time there were many who thought "no show"
This subject idea would be a great tool for them to come back and give their two cents or explain their unfortunate circumstances and not directly reflect the review.
Because a Provider unfortunately can not write a blurb on her review to counter a situation like that with a *no show*
And it would suck to get some bad points when life threw you a sucky curve

why not just move on?  There are plenty of other providers who are willing to take your money.  If she was not one of them, why dwell on it?  At least you didn't get ripped off.

That wasn't nice of that provider to cancel on you because a regular contacted  her . Infact I don't consider it to be professional at all .


Yes I always try to accommodate my regulars , but they have to understand if I am already booked with someone else .

When I commit to an appointment , it is a commitment !!! You don't cancel on one client to see another and you don't cancel an appointment because now someone offered you a longer session / More money .


A top provider should be professional enough to contact a client and cancel if she has too ( things happen we are human too )
But to just NO SHOW ?? NO ANSWER ? NO PHONE CALL ?? NO EXPLANATION ??  well that isn't a top provider in my mind .
Only if she was in Jail or in the hospital could be a reason not letting the client know on time ........but I would  be sure to contact the client as soon as I could .

having 9's and 10's isn't the only thing that makes a lady a  Top Provider .

xoxo CindySpice

There are as many excuses as there are people to make them up.

Maybe they should be categorized:
- No-show
- No-show, but good excuse
- Now-show, and you gotta read this excuse

And maybe no-shows should result in some sort of compensation...

and what about the GUYS that no show ?

Do you see the complications?
And no absolutely not-  any girl has the right I am sorry meph not to be rude here in any way - to deny time with a guy based on what ever she thinks. Granted the *BEST* business measure would be to call him and state = I am sorry I will have to cancel our appointment.
Thats why at least in messages a Provider could take the higher ground and prove herself to be the 8-9 rated business professional she was and clear the air. Accident-Health concern Emerg or simply the change of heart that this person was a total YOKEL. Our lives ( for I believe most of the Ladies here ) are NOT wrapped around the men who happen to seek a little time. We have families interests jobs (REAL 9-5 corporate american shit) and you know what stuff happens.
How many advance declinations do I get? I will schedule time with someone that I have spent alot of time getting to know verifying etc. Book out that evening to dedicate SOLELY to him and nothing. Not one word. I am not comfortable calling, and make one attempt to do such and leave a private discreet message. Yet nothing not one return. Granted those are rare. They have happened and I too thought it was the RUDEST thing on the planet. Had a guy come back and told me 3 days later, He had been unexpectedly put in a situation or for heavens sake harmed in a vehicle accident my compassion (whether I believed he was BS or not) would sincerely wish him well and thank him for seeking me to begin with.
I understand theres rip offs and bait and switch and plenty of times guys get crap. However reading through the boards there are WAY too many men that are looking for an excuse to give a woman a hard time not to mention a harder rating Especially for whatever reason selectively she feels he is not the candidate she desires to see. Opening the form up to a little box that one could click "no show" which ever little category is a can of worms waiting to happen. As I said a Provider cant come back on her own defense and state quite frankly thats a "crock of crap! He was called in a timely manner to cancel our date as such and such happened"
Would you ask to compensated when someone just totalled their vehicle and was harmed . Thats pretty dam F*** up .

But at least you didn't call me a Nazi.

I've seen comments here at other fora on the web regarding certain providers who, it appears, are chronic no-shows or repeat offenders.  There should be some means of annotating their reviews--whether or not she has an opportunity to provide an excuse.

Would I ask to be compensated if someone just totalled their vehicle and was harmed?  If her SUV rear-ended my Prius, hell yes.
If she was on the way to an appt. with me? She should ask the investigating officer to phone me to let me know.

(I included "rear-ended" as a straight line for you.  You're welcome.)
 
BTW, my few forays to the chat rooms have proven them to be a waste of time. Maybe you should announce a date/time when you'll be there and others can join you there.  

You must have a lot of Irish in you.

Yes it is a sucky that "a provider can't come back on her own defense and state quite frankly that is a crock of crap!"  Actually it is the same sucky position a guy faces when a lady decides to post a review about him on a lady's only board such as the one on TBD, except the guy can't even see what has been said about him much less defend himself.  And some providers use those boards to try and even up scores with guys that have nothing to do with an actual date.  Whenever the failings of that board or others like it have been brought up in a thread the response from many providers has been "too damn bad".  

After reading this thread it does seem that the best solution currently available is to post lady's name in the subject line of the local discussion board so that a search may be done on her name.

All the lame arguments about not officially posting a no-show could be made about getting rid of bad reviews.  Nothing in here can be proven (its all make believe, right?).  When a provider gets a series of bad or less than stellar reviews, I'm sure she has a desire to have them disapear.  Just like reviews, there will be some that are not legit.  

I am absolutely sure that you will find that some providers have numerous family members dying each month and weekly "emergency" trips to the hospital.  Their car will break down every couple of days, and there will be some major catastrophy that makes it impossible to call and say they can't make it.  

If the reason is legit, then having an area to post it will show the group that although provider x had a bad hair day and couldn't show or call, it is extremely uncommon and probably won't happen again.  Or, it will be added to the numerous bad hair day posts and expose her as flaky.

I mean, really, how many of you would not make a date if a provider has a couple of no-shows.  It's the cronic skipper I'm interested in knowing about.  Each month I get flaked on and it gets old.  I get ready, I plan my day around it, I show up, and no girl or no call.  

So what about the guy no-shows?  Guess what, this is a board for hobbyists to review providers.  I think naughtyescort.com has an area for providers only, post it there.  Or post it here.  Whatever.  

How about if the provider has a chance at rebuttal for the post.  He posts a no show with reason (if one is given) and she has an opportunity to add one line of information if she wants.  There, we have taken care of the extra-ordinary mishap.  But guess what happens when there is a few mishaps a week?  The provider is proven to be a flake and the next guy is a bit wiser.

Courtesy, not to mention good business practice, demands that the provider contact the hobbyist with an explanation or at least an apology. Lacking that, it's beneficial for all involved for the stood up hobbyist to make the no-show known on a review. If providers know this will be publicly noted, they'd be less cavalier, and less likely to continue such behavior.

He DID get ripped off. She wasted his time, the only non-renewable resource we have. Besides, posting info about a no-show also benefits others, who'll avoid trhe dissapointment of trying to engage an irresponsible provider.

Cant call you a Nazi - dont know if you are a "New Corporatist" aka socialist of the new world regime.
Better be careful about making suggestions Muah hahaha
Its one of my favorite words in traffic and debate class so I dont cuss... which I tend to do freely and often.. yes ALOT OF IRISH.

I will stick to what I said before. Having it in a messages as was formentioned allows a girl who is indeed on the up and up an oppt to say hey.. sorry but this happened and you need to cool your mother lovin jets.
secondly if she isnt on the up and up it will be apparent.

HOWEVER for as much as this is all "fantasy" ahmmm
Guys will repeatedly warn someone else DONT GO SEE HER shes a bait and switch bla bla 3 days later hell write either a happy star studded report card... or come back to acknowlege their knowledge.

The difference is the girls that are truely Business Professionals in a mannered gentile way opposed to fly by night organizations looking to take whoevers money they can.

Clearly we have a problem here between posting no shows or not...this thread has also become a sounding board for how a provider can defend herself from a bad review....these are all problems.  I can tell you that statisically, TER could solve the problem.  If a provider has 10 reviews, let's say all 7 through 10's and then one very bad review, it gets removed after one month.  It is what could be called an 'outlier' and therefore a statisitical accident.  The same could be done with no-shows...my 2 cents.  No one wants to see scores settled here.  

The reason no shows are frustrating is that simply moving on may take another month or more for some of us who have to juggle our schedules to see someone.

So you understand how reviews can somtimes be crappy. I wasnt even aware they had a Ladies Only posting board. Thats why I have a yahoo group for the gals only.
Its a great venting place.

However the few posts in there (men) that have gotten less than glamorous reviews for whatever reason...
Were mainly due to money or the guy pulling something uncool. Example guy in DC that schedules with all the girls up there. He tries to start hugging and touching them in the door and stripping down to his nothings. When the girls finally gets him to hold up for a sec and ask where her donation is he gives her a credit card. One had a merchant account and tried to call it in via the phone, when it declined she told him. He went to his car or said he was going to , to get his cash for her.Knowing this was a crock of crap. She went behind him half a min later. Watched him drive off. So far hes gone through about 11 DC girls this way.

communication is valid and vital no matter what its simply weeding through the cow dun to find the true deal. The best part about messages it opens a forum where people can come back to your inquries and genuinely respond

Maybe I'm assuming too much of a "grapevine," but I thought a client who was a problem "no show" would quickly get a reputation among providers, especially in places like Vegas, where the independents seem to have a fairly tight-knit community. And aren't there provider-only boards for sharing this kind of info?

In my opinion, this is a "sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander" situation.

--b.
 (a gander who enjoys goosing.  

Good point about discretion when PM'ing previous reviewers, Nicole.

To take this question in a completely different direction, another solution would be to send a note to the provider who no-showed. Along the lines of "Missed you last night. Hope nothing serious happened." I tried this approach, and received a note in return, explaining what had happened, apologizing and offering to make it up to me if I would schedule another date.

I'm not saying this will work in all cases, but in my case, the lady most definitely did make it up to me.