Ladies open up your EYES, & SCREEN better! Wake up !!!

As Mod of 5 boards in 4 regions, I hear it all, and try to help you gals stay safe -- It's NO secret biz is way off for most of you.  The one thing you can't scrimp on is screening! It may be tempting to go easy on the screening process to facilitate more biz, BUT It's better to give up a client and his $$$ than get busted, beat up or robbed!!! In the last few weeks I know of 2 ladies who have had their teeth knocked out, many that have been busted, and a few that were robbed, or roughed up. Tough screening and references are a MUST, and alleviates most of these nightmares. Open your EYES, and be safe!  Happy Hobbying!

(BTW, I offer ladies safety tutorials for a modest donation)  


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Re: Ladies open up your EYES, & SCREEN better! Wake up !!!

Moments like this would be a good time to remember that one has TEETH!!!!

But to each his/her own.

Hugs,
ciara

Re: Ladies open up your EYES, & SCREEN better! Wake up !!!

Thank you thank you Thank you  for your support. I do hope the men realize why we need to take it so seriously. We know know all men are not like this but for the one or 5 that are it's not worth it.Thank you Fuzzy.

Lately many newbies, I am really begining to think it is all the latest press that has brought many new guys here. Many others do not come here but skip the TER step and just start making calls, expecting an appt or as they say, date, and no name other than first, if that even is their name.
Try explaining screening and they are often either clueless or annoyed as if its not my business to know all this info.
Its a flooded market with new men who want instant trust. They also seem upset when I tell them I can not see them unless they are verified. I send them to Ter but none the less. It is a bit messy right now compaired to what we have all gotten used to, Gentlemen having references ready soon as the hellos are said and done either over the phone or in their email.  Still no references, no playtime. Screen Screen Screen.

Be safe all...

so, there are some of us out here who appreciate, even require, security measures on the part of providers. Everyone connected to a hobbyist or a provider is like a layout of dominoes, just waiting for a push from one direction or another. We all depend upon top notch security, which starts with good screening on the part of the ladies.

So

hang in there - do not be tempted to lower your standards by the economy or by the influx of ill educated newbs.

I appreciate your efforts at keeping yourself and ultimately, my precious behind, safe.

Oh - the lady could use some visine - but the shade of lipstick is nice.....

1) Completely contradicts the message he is giving with the words he writes ... and
2) Depicts violence against women

WTF is wrong with you?  That is NOT FUNNY!  If a man ever tried something like that with me, he would find my professionally trained 130 pound bull mastiff's mouth locked around his throat.  End of story.

You are humorless, grating, and the 2nd biggest drama queen on TER. Trust me, you'd rather NOT know what guys say about you back channel. I'll refrain from making a joke about you and your bull mastiff dog (LOL), but will leave you with a pic you're sure to enjoy!  

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Hey Fuzzy -

well, the lady could use some Visine, but the lipstick is a lovely shade.

Blonde hair / blue eyes? Kinda cliche...... (no offense, anyone) but she is cute.

The gent is well groomed. and his hands look nice and clean so as far as I can see he is a good role model.

Does it depict violence? I guess that depends on whether it exceeds what the participants enjoy. Different strokes for different folks...

Being a Dom, I have the pleasure to know quite a few ladies who really enjoy it when a man takes charge....

Cheers

Gregory

......helping keep the poor girl's eyes open. He wants to make sure she sees his hoohaw slowly disappear allll the wayyyyy down her....well you get my drift.  I think he's being sweet and thoughtful!

Men must be nice to have a job you sit at and surf porn all day .lol

Although you disagree with the picture he never advocates violence against women in any of his posts.

You just have to love a post that is so sweet to warn us about our need to be careful (the warning IS duly noted at least).....while at the same time assaulting us with a delightful picture of a woman having her eye nearly poked out, while some guy is attempting to insert his penis all the way out her ass via her mouth. Yeah, that is EXACTLY the thing I want to see.

Decaf Torrid ... Decaf !

The pictures he posts are always disgusting (imho) so I just ignore him and go about my life.
It's too bad the message couldn't have been brought to the board in a more appealing manner.  But... it is a good message...  

Do be safe.  Do screen clients.  

TY Fuzzy, in your own way, I guess, you're just trying to help.

I am the antithesis of PC and make no apologies for that.  IMHO PC has no place on a board of this nature. I have a decidedly  irreverent, warped, kinky, and twisted sense of humor that most appreciate. There will always be the perennial whining maggots.   They are free to take a needlepoint class.

It's unbelievable, and ironic  that a post aimed at safety, and protecting gals brings out the usual whining cry babies. Happy Hobbying  

One of the things I love about  men like Fuzzy is there ability to maintain  the innocents of  the 12 year within. Yet still have the maturity and responsibility to care enough to see to it that the ladies are as forewarned as possible. When I saw this post Yes my 1st thought  of the pict was eeeww gross witch was quickly replaced with a thought of  Um look at this guy he such a kid.. That’s funny  And you what he did get your attention now didn’t he?  If you learn to look at things from more then 1 angle(surfice) you  just might find that life isn’t so black an white or bad. Just a thought.

Talk about skull fucking.
Thanks for the laugh Fuzzy.
:-0

Re: Ladies open up your EYES, & SCREEN better! Wake up !!!

Yes but just as all men will not beat woman …all woman will beat men either.
The reason I want to know who you are  is that if you beat me you dam sure your ass is going to jail If I wasn’t able to kick your ass my self. Lol
Just a thought.

Hon, we have websites plastered everywhere with our pics, bio, etc. We are also reviewed and you can read very explicit information about us, so it would be pretty difficult for a guy to be ripped off, beaten or even treated badly if he believes in the TER system and only sees well-reviewed ladies. Why would you even want to see someone you're not sure about? Men have to be careful, too, and with the Internet and review sites, it should help you to decide who is a safe and who can provide the service you need. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.

Now, on the other hand, we don't have a clue as to who some of you guys are, unless we ask another provider to vouch for you. Seems pretty harmless to me. If a gentleman has reputable provider references, then that's good. However, the provider we're getting a reference from needs enough information so she will remember you or it's pointless to even get a reference. If someone contacts me with only a first name, no number, no website that he is on (which would still require an I.D. to make sure he's the guy in the picture -- it's not like we're documenting your information when we glance at your I.D.); then I will not take the chance on seeing him. It's his right to move on if he chooses to, and it's my right not to take the chance on seeing him. Remember, we're more apt to be arrested than men, unless they always see unknown providers at sleazy hotels.

Personally, I don't even know why this topic is hashed over and over again on TER. If you don't like someone's screening process, then move on and find someone who doesn't screen or someone on the street. It's simple.

Hugs,
Ciara







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I know it's annoying, and provokes some frustration, but part of our raison d'etra is to educate them. If they don't like the risk /rewards ratio, they don't belong in the game. But they have to figure that out form themselves...

I can understand and even find compassion and the endearing qualities you found.  Yes, preserving the innocence of childhood is a very lovable quality.  And, I do appreciate that Fuzzy is concerned about our safety and well being.

However, I am truly afraid of the consequences of women continuing to embrace and accept childish behavior from grown men.  It's not just destructive to women honey.  It's destructive to men.  It robs men of their opportunity to be grown men.  The experience of being a mature and responsible man who expresses himself in a way that doesn't cause harm to others is way more valuable than the experience of behaving like a child as a grown man.

If we stop and think about it, most of the mess families are experiencing in this country wouldn't be occurring if women would stop embracing childish behavior from men and instead support them in being responsible, mature and masculine men.  It really has nothing to do with being PC.

And I said it with a smile. Again, just my opinion. Move on. And you said you weren't PC? Just kidding.

Hugs,
Ciara

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Perhaps you just need to see reviewed ladies that don't require references. If you do, then you wouldn't need to post about us wanting references? This is an escort site. We get reviewed and hopefully are in the limelight enough to ward off bad providers who you need to avoid, and so that you will get the best women for your time. You're pretty darn safe with some of us. We only have your TER handle. That's all! And that's not enough for me, but to each his/her own.

Also, I was not downing street walkers, etc. I was simply stating the fact that they will not require references. Yea, the "sleezy hotel" part may have ripped a nerve with you and I'm sorry. I didn't intentionally mean to hurt you, but I think most Indies with Incalls on TER are a much safer and better bet, hon. Also, some date check sights (not mentioning names because some are very good) do not keep current on their gentlemen callers. Just because a guy was nice two years ago doesn't mean he is currently a good guy. Maybe he's developed a severe drug problem and beats women. Who knows? I'd rather trust my own instincts and another provider's recent referral of someone. However, I have used a service before when I was traveling. Some of those clients were great and some I would never see again -- scarey -- but I trusted their service. That's just me. I found out that a lot of providers won't even give out references past six months. Try being an escort and then you can figure out why we are so adamant about the reference-checking process. Some of us have had bad luck in the past and do not wish to chance it again. Also, you can ask the provider if she has a driver? And, you might want to do Incall instead.

So, if so many of us feel safer about our reference-checking process, then why turn my factual post into a negative when I'm giving you good reasons why some of us ask for references. I'm not asking for your work number, etc., if you give me a good provider reference. I guess you missed that part. Reread it again with objectivity and then get back to me. Please do not distort my words.

Also, guys, please start noticing the icon in front of posts. That usually means the temperment of the poster. Why do people always miss that part? There are some escorts on here that don't require references. I can even PM you a couple of names if you'd like, but each of us runs our own business the way we see fit. If it makes us feel safe, then that is important.

I have never heard of a guy who saw a well-reviewed provider on TER get totally beat up or arrested, or at least he didn't post about it. But, I have heard of men who do not pick well-reviewed providers who have had bad experiences. And, you didn't mention the part that you were disabled in your initial post, although you'd be surprised at how many disabled guys some of us get, hon.

Anyway, you can pick anyone you want, darlin'! I guess if you're this frustrated about it, then that means more women are requiring references now. Good for them! Again, PM me if you want some ladies who don't require as many references. I'd be glad to give you their names.

Hugs,
Ciara



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However, I will get frustrated if you state that I'm getting upset when I'm not.

I casually suggested that Incall might be better for you so you are going to a private residence, but I understand your fear of that, too. I used to prefer Outcall but then it got too scarey to be seen walking through hallways, entryways and to a man's room. LE could be surveying that particular hotel, and it's always different for the person already in the room versus the person trying to look conservative but still trying to look hot not to draw attention to herself. I still do outcall but I prefer Incall now. I do both! I also understand your concerns about your privacy, and I am very discreet with my reference-checking process. If I did call someone at his work place, I know just what to ask without looking suspicious or getting him in trouble. Now, I never ask for a home address or home phone. I never mentioned anything about asking for addresses or work info. if the man can provide a provider reference. Peace out!

Hugs,
Ciara

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Re: Ladies open up your EYES, & SCREEN better! Wake up !!!

I think that if  a lady were do have her goon beat you up you have the same option of calling the police. I work out of hotels so If I were to rob or goon you the police could easily get my info I need ID to check in and lic plate#. So you do have that protection. And also with some of the verifying sites as well To be a certified provider you must give your info so there again you do have protection. This bizz is risky for both provider and client however more so for the women. Why?  Even when a woman (provide) reports  it’s not a high  priority  and if she ever lets it go to court she will be ripped to shreds. Also the statistics on violence on women verses men are staggering. Me personally I really don’t care who you are in terms of where you live or work. But I will ask you this. What do think I should do. I had a gentlemen contact me this week  wanting an appointment  he gave me his name (real I presume) And a referenced provider. I contacted her and she told me she dose not remember him. So I asked for employer info I have not heard back from him. Now I say presumable real name because until I have employment info I’m not going to waste my time looking. But do you think I should meet him any way? And take the chance that he wont be a real Jack Ass?  You say you understand well thank you but the question is what you do?

Hey Torrid I do agree to a degree there is a time and place for every thing and in this time and place I do in fact find it funny and endearing. I in no way would ever accept any one doing harm (emotionally of physically  to any one. And yes we as a whole in general  we should  call out  over board  or bad behavior and we do..
This is the place to be able to exhibit our fantasies  and immaturities is it not.? Do you know why Freud thought every thing had to do with sex and mama? Because at that time and era it did . People were so sexually repressed  and miserable because they were to busy being OVERLY responsible  So I see no reason why if a man or woman is able to keep it all in prospective  and keep reliability and responsibility forefront  that they  be allowed to let the little one with in --out to play in a safe sane consensual environment. I know for me personally all work no play makes little Jill a real bitch. Lol So when I say lighten up  I mean every one  just enough to have a some fun a little laugh and a lot of life. Now on the other if a guy would come on here and advocate violence  I know you would see Fuzzy as well as the rest of this community boot his but right of here.
Just a thought.