I have sessions with regulars which vary from super passionate to extremely physical, and they involve various levels of DFK. In fact, one regular only provides LFK, but she will happily gobble my hard-on for 45minutes straight! She’s a Superstar despite no DFK! Also, she doesn’t mind if I passionately kiss or lick her! I have other regulars who I lock lips with for an hour straight! It depends on my mood and the provider’s!
If a woman says, NO DFK up front, at least she gave you a chance to walk. If I feel like fucking (most of the time!) I’m not going anywhere! However, if more “NO’s” pop up, I may not tip or return. Then again, if the provider excels in other ways, I may come back for more! Ultimately I have to leave the session feeling like the provider tried hard to please me, to give her a tip, and did I enjoy the session enough to return-DFK or not?Recently saw a lady in my area. When I arrived, one of the first things she told me was that she didn’t kiss. This wasn’t on her ad. She explained why, and I don’t doubt that it was authentic.
I’m not posting to ridicule her for that. Everyone has their menu, and reasons for it. I always brush my teeth and floss beforehand, and chew flavored gum while driving there to stay fresh - so I don’t think it was me. Plus, I’ve never had that happen. Also, by telling me straight away, she gave me the chance to bail.
However, I didn’t realize until we were in the middle of things, how much I want and enjoy kissing. We’re engaged, and our faces are 4 inches away from one another - and it was everything I had not to kiss. It truly killed the mood for me. And that’s on me, not her.
I guess I just didn’t realize that it is pretty much a deal breaker for me. Didn’t know that until now.
Has anyone else ever experienced that?
Or look at her web site? Usually you can find out things like this from those two sources. If someone advertises herself as GFE you'd think you'd get at least LFK. But it's not unheard of for a girl not to offer kissing.
Doing your homework correctly usually works to reveal that.
which is an eternity in hobbying world, since this world, much like the rest of the world, is so rapidly evolving, then YES..
But remember when some of us started, there was no TER (or was in it's infancy), and hookers didn't kiss all that much. First 4-5 hookers I had living in small-town in Southern, PA didn't kiss at all until I found one who did.. I was 21-22 at the time and was an aggressive kisser.. But in recent times? No way.. With all the research you can do, there is no reason why you should find yourself in such a situation..
Also, your statement, "until we were in the middle of things, how much I want and enjoy kissing".. is borderline comical. You should never forget what you love the most.. And 99% of the guys love kissing.. I have met a very few folks who don't enjoy kissing.
a goodly percentage of the time it is you.
I know this from experience. Breath fresheners and their ilk is like peeing on a forest fire.
Here are two things that do work:
1. Lay off garlic. It gets on your breath days after you consume it from your blood stream.
2. Use Thera-breath mouth wash just before your date. I'm not getting a kick back from them but after I started to use it, a lot of gals who previously told me that kissing was not their thing, suddenly wanted to play tonsil hockey with me. That's no coincidence, IMHO.
If the girl is not going to kiss, she is not going to kiss... Fish.. None of that matters.
Its not always about just hygiene, its an intimate act, perhaps the most intimate, and it's about how it makes her feel.. If she feels good about it, she will do it.. If it makes her uncomfortable, she won't.
Therabreath not only has a mouthwash but a line of toothpaste and mints as well.
I actually have my normal everyday toothpaste I use and my “hobby” toothpaste of Therabreath that I use before appointments and I keep a box of the mints in my car.
Not getting any kickbacks here either and not only have I never had a complaint I’ve been complimented on having fresh clean breath.
I’ve found it at Walgreens and for price point conscious people I’ve found it even cheaper at Walmart.
Thera-Breath is the gold standard in mouthwash. Its based on bleach like action that is effective in killing both the bacteria and the smelly sulfur bearing chemicals.
Did you poll (not pole) providers?
I haven’t encountered many, but certainly more than single digits, providers who won’t kiss. Apparently it was a policy decision with them based on other reviews.
BITOD I was OK with that but would not see a provider who routinely doesn’t kiss and will not repeat with one who reveals that only when I see her. I can live without BJs perhaps the rest of this existence. But no kissing would make hobbling a cold place indeed.
most of them for pay.
I have noted their kiss and no kiss policies, and offer what I have learned.
What more would you have me do?
You offer that laying off the garlic and using specific mouth product is the answer to getting kissed? I don't think I've been with 200 girls but I've been with enough to confidently say that those aren't factors. Especially the garlic. I've eaten garlicky food on dates and gotten plenty of action. I've avoided garlic and brushed religiously and gotten none before as well.
I had my tonsils removed when I was a kid so I always bring them along preserved in a jar of formaldehyde. None of my hostesses seem to be interested in kissing or playing hockey with them. Maybe I should switch out the formaldehyde for Thera-breath?

I too bring body parts. They make great conversation starters.
I always take a travel-sized bottle of Listerine with me and use it right before getting out of my car to head into the hotel. I've never had a problem.
the same thing for over a decade. Never been refused DFK.
Agreed. A tiny bottle of mouthwash is kept in my car which is actually used prior to client meetings.
With that, I always get an extended kiss as soon as I walk into a provider meeting.
Same. Also taking your time and brushing your tongue daily helps get rid of a lot of the bacterial build up in the mouth. A good percentage of odor that emits from the mouth comes from the tongue - which is why I hate kissing providers who smoke heavily as their tongue is usually caked with white build up.
had a k girl ask me if had onions after first kiss. woops it was a last minute visit but guess i'll try to pay attn to my meals before hand just in case. had some onion rings like 20 hours earlier. surprised she noticed it. she was still fine with kissing tho, luckily
Don't think fewer onion rings. Think like a marketer.
had a k girl ask me if had onions after first kiss. woops it was a last minute visit but guess i'll try to pay attn to my meals before hand just in case. had some onion rings like 20 hours earlier. surprised she noticed it. she was still fine with kissing tho, luckily

I had onions on my dinner date. Chewed some gum, brushed my teeth, no problems. That ain't it man.
For all the guys who think the provider will decide based on your freshness...uh uh, no fucking way.
I follow the same process with every provider. I brush, use mouthwash, gum. I bath for a long time before the date. And I've had mixed results. So I know that's not why.
If you read many reviews that claim DFK and she didn't do it for you it's one of two reasons. Either she does it based on her desire for it, whether her attraction to you puts her in the mood. Or she never did it and reviewers are flat out lying.
So you're going to be rolling the dice no matter what. But in general if the reviews claim GFE you've got a great shot. If several reviews give detail about the kissing, like say how much she loves it or make a quip about how they thought there tongue was going to fall off, very good sign.
But being as fresh as you can cannot hurt.
I have sessions with regulars which vary from super passionate to extremely physical, and they involve various levels of DFK. In fact, one regular only provides LFK, but she will happily gobble my hard-on for 45minutes straight! She’s a Superstar despite no DFK! Also, she doesn’t mind if I passionately kiss or lick her! I have other regulars who I lock lips with for an hour straight! It depends on my mood and the provider’s!
If a woman says, NO DFK up front, at least she gave you a chance to walk. If I feel like fucking (most of the time!) I’m not going anywhere! However, if more “NO’s” pop up, I may not tip or return. Then again, if the provider excels in other ways, I may come back for more! Ultimately I have to leave the session feeling like the provider tried hard to please me, to give her a tip, and did I enjoy the session enough to return-DFK or not?
Either it's your breathe or it's cause she does not enjoy kissing.
I have had it happen, but mostly with low-end girls a long time ago. The explanations I got when I asked were variants of "that is just for my boyfriend/husband" or "this is about sex not love." Once I started reading reviews and looking for GFE exclusively, I have never had it come up.
The closest I have come in the last 20 years is one gal who would only kiss with closed lips. Even that was a gal in Thailand who was my sleepover tour guide, but a Thai-American friend later told me that kissing and particularly DFK isn't as much of a thing in Thailand as in Western cultures, even if what we would consider more intimate sexual options are very much on the menu. She said that ladies (pro or amateur) who enjoy kissing tend to gravitate to Western or Westernized men (e.g., Japanese, Hong Kong, Taiwanese, or Westernized mainland Chinese men who like kissing too).
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...and if I do encounter it I'll be pretty bummed. Honestly I've never really looked closely enough at a provider's profile to ensure that she does indeed offer kissing. I'll have to look out for that now.
It used to be conventional wisdom that prostitutes didn't typically kiss ... I'm talking like 50 years ago and beyond. Of course "conventional wisdom" might have had nothing to do with reality. So who knows. But I guess not everyone enjoys kissing. So I am sure some will avoid it. Also some might have had oral herpes/cold sores.
I would respectfully decline or minimally never repeat. No thanks on No Kiss I totally respect the providers choices but I would choose another provider more aligned to my preferences.