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It's nice to hit the bar scene and talk to women with no intent on trying to pick them up. I know the hobby is there when I want it.

first time in 2 months, i realize how grateful i am to be a provider and to be in the industry where you can cut out all the bullshit and just have fun with cute older gents without playing games of trying to impress each other...

 
those of you who still hit the bars once in a while, what motivates you???does it even pay off?or just waste of time?

Like you said, after spending time even with great gents with awesome wine and convo, drunk dudes at the bar- Booo

But who am I to complain?   Life's been good to me so far...  :)  

And I don't own a Maserati...just a Lincoln MKZ, that blows most of the other fools off the road at will.  Plus, I can travel and hobby when it suits me, in style.  What did I say in my second statement?

at the supermarket, etc...  That pays off.

A bar? I go to a bar to drink. I enjoy flirting, but I'm not looking for a payoff. The odds are poor in most bars

GaGambler282 reads

I have noticed that when bars the harder I try, the less successful I am. I haven't gone to a bar in an attempt to "pick up chicks" in decades. I go to bars to drink and socialize, not to hit on women. That said, it's amazing how many women will warm up to a guy who is not "on the make". Even in my twenties I hated those cheezy pick up lines used by guys trolling the bars.

My problem is actually the opposite one, I will "chat up" virtually anyone as I am not looking to hook up, so this means I often find myself engaged in conversation with "age appropriate" women who I have ZERO interest in sexually and who I look at as one might look at friends of his mother. Somewhere along the line I have to pinch myself and force myself to acknowledge that sometimes this nice old woman (ten years younger than me) thinks I am interested in her, and even worse she is interested in me. I then have to do the same thing hot women do, start talking about my imaginary GF, or show her pics of any of my exes, none of whom are any older than early thirties and all of which look twenty something. This usually discourages all but the most obtuse and desperate women, who look at any guy of my age who has all of his teeth, most of his hair and doesn't look to be a broke dick. lol

I never knew what it was like to be a young hot woman, not until my forties when I started becoming the prey instead of the hunter. I can understand why many of them do that whole hair flip thing of dismissal. It is ironic that I haven't had that happen to me in more years than I can count. I guess getting older does have it's advantages.

I can talk to women anywhere, but as soon as you look like you're "hitting" on a gal, her shields go up and your conversation is over. Doesn't matter where you are.

In bars, I think women have "shields up" and "bullshit meters" on highest setting.

Honestly, anywhere you are a "try-hard", you are a "die-hard".  

I have zero interest in the age-appropriate anglers either; I just talk to whomever I choose. I guess men have their own "shields" in certain situations.

I have noticed that younger guys just don't seem to get it - they stand around and won't talk, leaving the gal waiting no matter how many ways she has signaled him, or they die trying too hard. There are definite advantages to experience.

GaGambler263 reads

If you strike up a conversation with a younger woman and you don't come off as "creeper" one of two things usually happens (with me at least) Either she is into older men and you have a chance, or if she is not into older and let me repeat "if you don't come across as a creeper" she will have her guard down as you are just that "nice old guy" talking to her, but not hitting on her.

Since I am not "on the make" in the first place, it's a win win for me. Either I get genuine interest or I get a pleasant conversation with an attractive woman. I get more than enough pussy from P4P, I don't need to score with every attractive woman I meet in a bar. Sometimes pleasant conversation and perhaps making a "friend" is it's own reward. Besides, even if she isn't into old guys like us, she might have a friend who is. lol

At my age I laugh at guys who come up to "chat". They want one of two things ... To start a boring conversation that doesn't interest me on any level or 2. to think they have a chance at taking me home and fucking me that evening...pro bono lol. Ha. That always makes me giggle and those guys sure are fun to toy with on occasion lol.  

When a woman goes out by herself, she's typically pretty confident to just enjoy catching her breath and looking to spend the evening solo. And is perfectly good with that.  If she's interested at all, she'll come up to you or give you the signal she's interested. Its really not that complicated to read women who are out but you have to at least know what you're looking for.

GaGambler220 reads

because at "My age" I don't "come up" to women to chat. If someone is sitting next to me I often strike up a conversation, it only takes a few seconds to figure out if that person (male or female) wants to continue said conversation.

Women go out by themselves for as many reasons as guys do. and I already said when I start up a conversation its just that, a conversation. Nothing more and nothing less. I even start conversations with old broads like you, I have ZERO intentions of trying to take any of these old broads home, I am just making conversation to pass the time, I even make a friend every once in a while.

But I'm fully capable of comprehending the post presence in its entirety lol. Maybe you have time to read the nonsense on this board in its full novel completeness...not I.  

My post was about as general a statement as they come, not directed to you in any way, shape or form. Why would you ever take what i say personally anyway...that's new for you.  

Suggestion? I think you and your buddy Afro need to take a chill pill again. His true colors are starting to shine again.

-- Modified on 2/28/2016 6:14:02 AM

You're pressed for time time these days? Seriously?

Although much more difficult to have sex that night
(depending on standards of course)

It does stroke the ego to get a phone # and or have a longer conversation.

The bar scene(s) where I sometimes hang are also nice restaurants so worse case
you have a nice dinner. It really is hit or miss to get dates. I traveled for business
for years so got used to it.  

Now on the rebound...I'm not really interested in a relationship so am at more
strip club bar scenes LOL!

Posted By: octavia.lexa
first time in 2 months, i realize how grateful i am to be a provider and to be in the industry where you can cut out all the bullshit and just have fun with cute older gents without playing games of trying to impress each other...  
   
   
 those of you who still hit the bars once in a while, what motivates you???does it even pay off?or just waste of time?

The senior social sites such as POF and Senior People are just stuffed with lonely women.    As many dates as you want.     You can't get the beauty, youth, and sex you get from a provider.  Hobby on.......

who approach me ALL the damn time, thinking I will believe that they're going to make my dreams come true HA HA HA, (I make my dreams come true,) are just like my ex boyfriend from a couple years ago.

I was escorting, so we were allowed to fuck outside of our relationship obviously. But he got SO many young chicks. I kept asking him "how in the hell do you do that?" They were HOT. Granted, he didn't tell me who he fucked, I just knew when they'd get within a certain vicinity of each other.

DUH. I couldn't put my finger on it, but he would brag about his elite status and all of his business connections to young female wait staff and women at bars, offer them the opportunity to have an internship, etc etc. lol.

When we first met, I threw out a number at him to tell him "I don't need you." I wasn't interested. Then he threw a number back at me, you know, the 6 figure income. (Which also could be 100 grand).

I remember thinking, "Oh. He wants to get laid. That's why he's talking about his income." So he gave me his phone number and business card lol, and I knew I had a number stored for an easy lay. Unfortunately i did fall for the guy, but he was EXPENSIVE to date!

His throwing out his income, and talking about his expensive - blah blah blah - I know you're trying to get laid dude. But the bullshit that I hate at bars, is them bragging about their properties, their riches, their elite job, their travel, and then BAM. They want to go dutch. LOL.

Nowadays, no fucking way. No way would I go dutch ever ever ever again. Not if I'm going to fuck 'em. Nowadays, to me bullshit is this: If you don't give me a stack of hundreds, pay for my dinner and drinks, you're full of shit.

These guys in bars, on airplanes, etc etc will all come at you like horny stray cats after a young female kitten in heat, and you have to weed through all the bullshit. Throw natural attraction in there, and the desire to be with someone, only to find out you're hooked, and they know it, and then ask to go dutch - or even for you to pay for their trip to Hawaii - I'd rather just screen guys here, take their money, and feel the love that way.

These bar guys - BYE BITCHES. LOL.

Oh! Also, the other day I had another one coming at me offering me to stay in his "5 bedroom house". (Wondering if he's on TER. LOL.) I was like "bitch, I lived a 5 bedroom houses. I'm not cleaning that bitch for you. What are you trying to say?"  

LOL. He kept pursuing me, this old dude, and touching me. I finally looked at him, said "no thanks" to his drink offer, and while he was talking turned my back on him while flipping my hair. I've never been confident enough to do that. And I didn't care that his feelings were hurt. I said 'NO' and he disregarded my 'NO'.

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant.

More often than most would believe, I've scored with a PYT when a pompous, arrogant, malcontent, sitting nearby at the bar was using rich guy lines, flailing away with nonsensical words, attempting to persuade Miss Pretty to go home with him, while she simply stared in space, while Mr. dumb ass kept rambling on.  
   
  I have no problem stopping a moron in his tracks when rescuing a damsel in distress.  
 
   A line I've used with much success, "Excuse me Miss, while Daddy Dollars next to you spouting off about his net worth, is most  likely a waste of your time, if you would be  inclined to take me home I guarantee a night with me will be one of the best times..................{long pause} ....of my life. I might not be rich but I can afford to buy your dinner. Would you care to move away from the buffoon groveling at  you and sit at a table with me "?
   
   When  Daddy Dollars mutters a word in protest I'll give him the best  Khal Drogo stare I can muster and tell him to go count his money.  
  More often than not she'll accept my invite and thank me for the rescue while the guy flaunting his dollars goes home alone, as usual.
   Nine times out of ten a young civilian is turned off when a guy she just met talks about his money, car or home.
   
    An older cougar or a two time divorced woman is a completely different story, but they aren't in my budget. :-D  
   

   

Posted By: Courtney.Ova
who approach me ALL the damn time, thinking I will believe that they're going to make my dreams come true HA HA HA, (I make my dreams come true,) are just like my ex boyfriend from a couple years ago.  
   
 I was escorting, so we were allowed to fuck outside of our relationship obviously. But he got SO many young chicks. I kept asking him "how in the hell do you do that?" They were HOT. Granted, he didn't tell me who he fucked, I just knew when they'd get within a certain vicinity of each other.  
   
 DUH. I couldn't put my finger on it, but he would brag about his elite status and all of his business connections to young female wait staff and women at bars, offer them the opportunity to have an internship, etc etc. lol.  
   
 When we first met, I threw out a number at him to tell him "I don't need you." I wasn't interested. Then he threw a number back at me, you know, the 6 figure income. (Which also could be 100 grand).  
   
 I remember thinking, "Oh. He wants to get laid. That's why he's talking about his income." So he gave me his phone number and business card lol, and I knew I had a number stored for an easy lay. Unfortunately i did fall for the guy, but he was EXPENSIVE to date!  
   
 His throwing out his income, and talking about his expensive - blah blah blah - I know you're trying to get laid dude. But the bullshit that I hate at bars, is them bragging about their properties, their riches, their elite job, their travel, and then BAM. They want to go dutch. LOL.  
   
 Nowadays, no fucking way. No way would I go dutch ever ever ever again. Not if I'm going to fuck 'em. Nowadays, to me bullshit is this: If you don't give me a stack of hundreds, pay for my dinner and drinks, you're full of shit.  
   
 These guys in bars, on airplanes, etc etc will all come at you like horny stray cats after a young female kitten in heat, and you have to weed through all the bullshit. Throw natural attraction in there, and the desire to be with someone, only to find out you're hooked, and they know it, and then ask to go dutch - or even for you to pay for their trip to Hawaii - I'd rather just screen guys here, take their money, and feel the love that way.  
   
 These bar guys - BYE BITCHES. LOL.  
   
 Oh! Also, the other day I had another one coming at me offering me to stay in his "5 bedroom house". (Wondering if he's on TER. LOL.) I was like "bitch, I lived a 5 bedroom houses. I'm not cleaning that bitch for you. What are you trying to say?"  
   
 LOL. He kept pursuing me, this old dude, and touching me. I finally looked at him, said "no thanks" to his drink offer, and while he was talking turned my back on him while flipping my hair. I've never been confident enough to do that. And I didn't care that his feelings were hurt. I said 'NO' and he disregarded my 'NO'.  
   
 Anyway, thanks for letting me rant.

love the game of thrones

Posted By: quadseasonal
 More often than most would believe, I've scored with a PYT when a pompous, arrogant, malcontent, sitting nearby at the bar was using rich guy lines, flailing away with nonsensical words, attempting to persuade Miss Pretty to go home with him, while she simply stared in space, while Mr. dumb ass kept rambling on.  
     
   I have no problem stopping a moron in his tracks when rescuing a damsel in distress.  
   
    A line I've used with much success, "Excuse me Miss, while Daddy Dollars next to you spouting off about his net worth, is most  likely a waste of your time, if you would be  inclined to take me home I guarantee a night with me will be one of the best times..................{long pause} ....of my life. I might not be rich but I can afford to buy your dinner. Would you care to move away from the buffoon groveling at  you and sit at a table with me "?  
     
    When  Daddy Dollars mutters a word in protest I'll give him the best  Khal Drogo stare I can muster and tell him to go count his money.  
   More often than not she'll accept my invite and thank me for the rescue while the guy flaunting his dollars goes home alone, as usual.  
    Nine times out of ten a young civilian is turned off when a guy she just met talks about his money, car or home.  
     
     An older cougar or a two time divorced woman is a completely different story, but they aren't in my budget. :-D  
     
   
     
   
Posted By: Courtney.Ova
who approach me ALL the damn time, thinking I will believe that they're going to make my dreams come true HA HA HA, (I make my dreams come true,) are just like my ex boyfriend from a couple years ago.  
     
  I was escorting, so we were allowed to fuck outside of our relationship obviously. But he got SO many young chicks. I kept asking him "how in the hell do you do that?" They were HOT. Granted, he didn't tell me who he fucked, I just knew when they'd get within a certain vicinity of each other.  
     
  DUH. I couldn't put my finger on it, but he would brag about his elite status and all of his business connections to young female wait staff and women at bars, offer them the opportunity to have an internship, etc etc. lol.  
     
  When we first met, I threw out a number at him to tell him "I don't need you." I wasn't interested. Then he threw a number back at me, you know, the 6 figure income. (Which also could be 100 grand).  
     
  I remember thinking, "Oh. He wants to get laid. That's why he's talking about his income." So he gave me his phone number and business card lol, and I knew I had a number stored for an easy lay. Unfortunately i did fall for the guy, but he was EXPENSIVE to date!  
     
  His throwing out his income, and talking about his expensive - blah blah blah - I know you're trying to get laid dude. But the bullshit that I hate at bars, is them bragging about their properties, their riches, their elite job, their travel, and then BAM. They want to go dutch. LOL.  
     
  Nowadays, no fucking way. No way would I go dutch ever ever ever again. Not if I'm going to fuck 'em. Nowadays, to me bullshit is this: If you don't give me a stack of hundreds, pay for my dinner and drinks, you're full of shit.  
     
  These guys in bars, on airplanes, etc etc will all come at you like horny stray cats after a young female kitten in heat, and you have to weed through all the bullshit. Throw natural attraction in there, and the desire to be with someone, only to find out you're hooked, and they know it, and then ask to go dutch - or even for you to pay for their trip to Hawaii - I'd rather just screen guys here, take their money, and feel the love that way.  
     
  These bar guys - BYE BITCHES. LOL.  
     
  Oh! Also, the other day I had another one coming at me offering me to stay in his "5 bedroom house". (Wondering if he's on TER. LOL.) I was like "bitch, I lived a 5 bedroom houses. I'm not cleaning that bitch for you. What are you trying to say?"    
     
  LOL. He kept pursuing me, this old dude, and touching me. I finally looked at him, said "no thanks" to his drink offer, and while he was talking turned my back on him while flipping my hair. I've never been confident enough to do that. And I didn't care that his feelings were hurt. I said 'NO' and he disregarded my 'NO'.  
     
  Anyway, thanks for letting me rant.

you are right girls...i am learning to say no to people now as well...before i was too concerned about hurting feelings

Posted By: Courtney.Ova
who approach me ALL the damn time, thinking I will believe that they're going to make my dreams come true HA HA HA, (I make my dreams come true,) are just like my ex boyfriend from a couple years ago.  
   
 I was escorting, so we were allowed to fuck outside of our relationship obviously. But he got SO many young chicks. I kept asking him "how in the hell do you do that?" They were HOT. Granted, he didn't tell me who he fucked, I just knew when they'd get within a certain vicinity of each other.  
   
 DUH. I couldn't put my finger on it, but he would brag about his elite status and all of his business connections to young female wait staff and women at bars, offer them the opportunity to have an internship, etc etc. lol.  
   
 When we first met, I threw out a number at him to tell him "I don't need you." I wasn't interested. Then he threw a number back at me, you know, the 6 figure income. (Which also could be 100 grand).  
   
 I remember thinking, "Oh. He wants to get laid. That's why he's talking about his income." So he gave me his phone number and business card lol, and I knew I had a number stored for an easy lay. Unfortunately i did fall for the guy, but he was EXPENSIVE to date!  
   
 His throwing out his income, and talking about his expensive - blah blah blah - I know you're trying to get laid dude. But the bullshit that I hate at bars, is them bragging about their properties, their riches, their elite job, their travel, and then BAM. They want to go dutch. LOL.  
   
 Nowadays, no fucking way. No way would I go dutch ever ever ever again. Not if I'm going to fuck 'em. Nowadays, to me bullshit is this: If you don't give me a stack of hundreds, pay for my dinner and drinks, you're full of shit.  
   
 These guys in bars, on airplanes, etc etc will all come at you like horny stray cats after a young female kitten in heat, and you have to weed through all the bullshit. Throw natural attraction in there, and the desire to be with someone, only to find out you're hooked, and they know it, and then ask to go dutch - or even for you to pay for their trip to Hawaii - I'd rather just screen guys here, take their money, and feel the love that way.  
   
 These bar guys - BYE BITCHES. LOL.  
   
 Oh! Also, the other day I had another one coming at me offering me to stay in his "5 bedroom house". (Wondering if he's on TER. LOL.) I was like "bitch, I lived a 5 bedroom houses. I'm not cleaning that bitch for you. What are you trying to say?"  
   
 LOL. He kept pursuing me, this old dude, and touching me. I finally looked at him, said "no thanks" to his drink offer, and while he was talking turned my back on him while flipping my hair. I've never been confident enough to do that. And I didn't care that his feelings were hurt. I said 'NO' and he disregarded my 'NO'.  
   
 Anyway, thanks for letting me rant.

GaGambler247 reads

Well immediately after springing for our trip to Hawaii that is:)

Ironically enough, I can't think of anybody, man or woman that I go Dutch with. Most of my friends fight over who "gets" to pick up the check, not who is "stuck" with the check.

I hate cheap people, broke or poor I understand and I almost always pick up the check when out with people who I know really can't afford it, but there is a huge difference between broke and CHEAP.

Now about that trip to Hawaii...

i recently took a provider to dinner (paying her dinner rates plus fun time rates) and had a fantastic sexy time (including in the parking garage before the meal, that's another story).

imagine my surprise when she insisted on going dutch for the meal.  what a sweetie.

of course, i am a regular of hers and have seen her several times before that.

but i was fully prepared to, and will in the future obviously, pay for the meal myself.

GaGambler280 reads

I rarely split dinner checks with anyone, much less women I just had sex with. Either I buy or she buys, most of the time of course I buy, but I do have several "hooker buddies" who insist on picking up the tab at least their share of the time. I sometimes have to fight them for the privilege of picking up the check.

Unless dinner is a very hefty check, I do recall splitting the check with a monger buddy of mine when we were in LV that was well over a grand, in 90% of the cases just one person picks up the check and the next time the other person does. I can't speak for other people, but I don't have many friends who "take advantage" of this kind of arrangement, as I said my friends are much more likely to fight for the check than they are to try to duck out of it.

well gaga i just thought that it was implied that when i purchase a dinner package from a provider, that i am springing for the dinner.  just as if i take her on a weekend getaway up the coast, i'm springing for the hotel and meals.

i was pleasantly surprised with my friend.  also because she m**b**d all the way home in the car, and gave me a terrific time back at her incall afterwards.

Until I learned they'll have no problem hurting mine. And taking everything from me.

I joined a 'sugar daddy' website recently to try it. What I quickly realized is, I can afford the sugar daddy part but cannot play the role. Social power is not a concern to me, and it's definitely not a turn out. I'm not judging sugar daddies, I'm just saying that it's not my thing, and there's TONS of guys like me out there.

Me giving internship: I did that, for someone who applied. They were excellent. I was that person's recommender for something else. Wrote recommendations letter, took a phone call, took to lunch. She's good looking, I guess. But, hooking up with her is not even on my radar. "Hey babe, wanna hook up?" It's not in my DNA.

I'm a sexual guy---here on a sexual board--but I'm just not wired for the sugar daddy thing. I could fall in love with someone less well off and it will never be a power thing in my mind. I'm just not into power type stuff.

Felt important to share a different POV.

Sending me drinks , interrupting my privacy with sappy pick up lines , rubbing against me , trying to slip something into my drink.....whispering in my ear all the stuff they wanna do to me....
Well , then I usually wake up and realize I've overslept again.

Actually , as a guy  I've never been into the bar scene thing. For one thing I hate the assumptions. I mean if I smile at a lady it doesn't automatically mean I'm trying to seduce her. If a couple guys are sitting next to one another it's likely they will at some point engage in a little friendly conversation or banter. But, If a lady sit next to me I'm pretty sure if I just nod a friendly hello she'll think I'm trying to get her in my room.

I recall once in Chicago I was to meet my local fave in the hotel bar. She always liked to sip a glass of wine before we slipped up to the room. It was kinda of a trendy place so I arrived about 20 minutes early to secure a little table. Too late , they were gone. But there was a couple spots at the bar. So I grab my stool . Next to me was a well dressed attractive young woman. I smiled at her and did a friendly hello. She acknowledge me but then kinda did the hair flip tuning the back to you thing that has been described in another post in this thread. Body language continued to say " don't even try you creep ....I know what you are up to....ain't happening "!  Definitely dismissive.  Then , in about 15 minutes Dodda walks in. Absolutely stunning in a stylish but sexy black dress. Every head turns as she zeros in on the empty spot I've secured next to me. Before sitting she gives me a sweet hug and apologize for running late ( she was actually a little early). The defensive lady next to me was probably a 9. Next to the sizzling blond bombshell Dodda she sunk to a 6. The best part was the look she gave me when I stood to let Dodda slip onto the stool and she kinda had to scooch over to give us some room.

I don't go to clubs at all. Hate those scenes. But if I'm in a bar of any kind it's not to pick up women. I probably already have something going.  
But , if ya wanna hit on me in my dreams , well , I guess that's OK.

Somedudesjunk245 reads

I have always enjoyed the chase. The flirting, the winks, the thrust and parry. A lot of times it ends in no penetration or I go home totally defeated. There are also the surprise conquests, the one you never saw coming or cumming. Met a lot of fun ladies in bars.

Sure I do the hooker thing, but what is the challenge there?(unless you are an AA male)

Money, yep
Screening, easy to do
Boom, I'm in

 
 

Posted By: octavia.lexa
first time in 2 months, i realize how grateful i am to be a provider and to be in the industry where you can cut out all the bullshit and just have fun with cute older gents without playing games of trying to impress each other...  
   
   
 those of you who still hit the bars once in a while, what motivates you???does it even pay off?or just waste of time?

That said, I'm on a site called Meetup.com, and I'm signed up with a lot of different groups (singles, foodies, dog owners, Humanists of Minnesota, Minnesota Atheists, just to name a few).  So I usually have something going on with one of those groups, and don't need to go to a bar by myself.  Funny thing is, though, one night a meetup got cancelled, so I decided to just have a burger and a beer at a bar I'd been interested in trying.  Lo and behold, a real stunner walked up to me and made it really clear that she wanted to go home with me.  What wasn't funny is that she was drunk as a skunk, so I hung out with her for hours, just trying to get her phone number, and she got mad that I didn't want to take advantage of her and ditched me.  It's a good thing I got to see my ATF the next week.

Us cute older gents appreciate you!

I'm a happy hour guy, last night out much later
I agree with you, I'd rather know than not, who I'm bedding or if I'm bedding
Makes my life lots simpler

If I set my intention to hook up, it never happens. I'm good-looking and youngish, but I'm not a pick up artist. That bores me. However, I LOVE connecting with people. I've had the greatest conversations and nights out with random people at bars, talking about this and that and everything. In that context, I occasionally hook up, and when I do it's amazing; two people connecting; happy in the morning, laughing and drinking coffee. There's nothing like it.

Always go to nice, "regular" places where most patrons are going to chill, not hook up. I've met tons of women who are attractive and who think I'm attractive---and nothing happened other than a great conversation and perhaps Facebook friends.

You've got to enjoy it for what it is. I met my most recent GF that way. She was like (later), wow, you were just genuinely interestied in talking and in  what I had to say, no agenda. It's not devoid of flirting, but as a guy I set my boundary.

It's nice to hit the bar scene and talk to women with no intent on trying to pick them up. I know the hobby is there when I want it.

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