There are tons more $100/30min non-GFE hookers than there are the ones you are lamenting about.
Learn how to work BP and other ad boards. Or get even more bang-for-your-buck and find out where your local track is. They are alive and well everywhere.-- Modified on 5/13/2013 11:09:34 PM
300 for only few minutes of real pleasure is hardly worth it. When you compare with what else 300 can buy in someone's time, it just makes no sense to charge that much.
I wish more providers offered cheaper non-GFE sessions. I would gladly pay 100 for a 30-minute non-GFE sessions. But 300 is just way tooooo much money unless money grows on trees for you
No one is forcing you to hobby! If you can`t afford it, don`t do it!
And by the way, what you are looking for definitey exists. There are streetwalkers and lots of gals advertising on backpage.
And I don`t think this is a topic for the newbie board.
I am not looking for SW/backpage gals. I want a well-reviewed provider who specifically offers non-GFE at an affordable rate. A simple massage then maybe 1 position , and done. I suppose it is like how it is done in Brothels.. Problem here in the US, there are no brothels. So you either pay 300/pop or don't get laid!
A quick review search with Chicago as the location and $100 as the price point and sex checked as a service, pulls up a 39 page list. The first 4 pages include ladies reviewed within the last 2 months! The number of reviews range from 1 to 36 but each offers $100 hh with full sex, according to their profile. Yes, many of them advertise on BP, but many seem to have their own sites and a few I noticed were on P411. Some of the rates may have changed, and some may not be your type, but I'm not doing all your legwork.
If that is what floats your boat, then learn how to use the tools and go find it. I'm giving you a break because this is on the newbie board, but in the future you will get better results if you quit your whining, and just ask how to find something!
Shouldn't the ladies be throwing themselves at you?
Learn to search reviews. Here is a search for providers in Chicago with a maximum rate of $100, a minimum rating of 7/7 and a a minimum of 5 reviews. What you are seeking does exist.
You need to start looking for "FBSM" vs. GFE. Many of those girls will offer a massage and bj for like 150-200, but no...you're not going to get FS on the first visit for that amount in most cases. Still, many guys have said that they receive FS from the massage girls, so that might be more what you are looking for. Or, try an Asian spa...they are famous for quickies.
That's complete crap. I have found many ladies in the 150-200 range that give better service than the high dollar hookers. Gentlemen do your research. You just need to find honest girls that like to fuck without feeling the need to rape you financially.
Maybe you should do the same? Take a gander at the providers in my area offering FS for the rates you pay, and let me know what you think lol. You will be hard pressed to find one under 40, and under 200 lbs. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the majority of guys in my area like spinners under 30. If you dare charge more, you better really charge more and price yourself out of the local market, to appeal to visitors.
Most of our FBSM girls OTOH, all young, hot, and in college, but they are not fkin some old man for peanuts. Maybe you don't care how many d*cks a woman has to suck a day, to reach her financial goals, but many guys do and being 3rd or 4th just is not their idea of a good time.
Maybe, you missed the part where he said he did NOT want some BP provider, which is the majority of YOUR reviews. Nothing wrong at all with seeing providers who use BP either, but don't sit here and try to bash women you can't afford, and ONLY because you can't afford them. Many guys will not put the time and effort it takes to cruise random ads on BP just to save a few bucks. They search TER, and that's it.
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It's really simple: if you can't afford to hobby, then don't.
No one is forcing you to hobby.
If you aren't comfortable with a provider's rates, look elsewhere.
Don't try to bargain or negotiate her down.
I wish more providers offered cheaper non-GFE sessions. I would gladly pay 100 for a 30-minute non-GFE sessions. But 300 is just way tooooo much money unless money grows on trees for you !
The problem is there is no "elsewhere" . It is either 300/hour or nothing..
Save up and see a good provider.
Some people only play a few times per year.
That's a great suggestion
Some people only play a few times per year.
I have no idea where your looking , but there are lots of women at lower rates unless your in NYC.
You're not searching right. You are in Chicago, and "Spas" are all over the damn place. Sure, you might not find a butt load of reviews, but it's pretty obvious what is going on. Do an Asian spa search in Chicago, and I bet there are tons babe.
your post. "It makes no sense to charge that much?" If she is getting that price, then it makes all the sense in the world. What you would "gladly pay" and what girls charge have nothing to do with each other.
I'm not a rich guy and would be ecstatic if prices were much cheaper. I'd also be happy if gas, beef, airfare, and tickets to the ballgame cost less, but ranting on the newbie board isn't going to get me anywhere.
Assuming that you want to make $100,000 a year, tell me that you would be willing to make out with an ugly woman and then pull aside a large roll of her belly fat to lick her hairy, stinky pussy for 30 minutes - TWENTY TIMES A WEEK - and I'll agree that 30 minutes for $100 is a fair price.
If you can't afford that luxury then don't participate in the hobby!
Now food and water I would a call a necessity.
Don't spend your last money buying pussy... I would suggest saving.... investing then coming back when you have extra funds to spend.
There are tons more $100/30min non-GFE hookers than there are the ones you are lamenting about.
Learn how to work BP and other ad boards. Or get even more bang-for-your-buck and find out where your local track is. They are alive and well everywhere.
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list themselves and are attractive and reputable. He needs to start cruising the "body rub" sections, and there are tons of legit women who do massage with a happy ending.
This is starting to look like a political ad where you bash BP girls cause they take your business. BP+TER= reasonably priced girls that give you what you want. Certain hookers have inflated opinions about themselves. Just sayin...........
You're acting like an idiot, while I am trying to do nothing but offer this guy some possible options. If you want cheap crap, by all means get it and stfu about what others charge. You're just pissed that you can't afford to pay more than you do. Not my problem. I don't cater to bottom feeders who think a 3 star hotel is first class...don't have to.
I wish more providers offered cheaper non-GFE sessions. I would gladly pay 100 for a 30-minute non-GFE sessions. But 300 is just way tooooo much money unless money grows on trees for you !
... 300 is cheap in NYC.
I wish more providers offered cheaper non-GFE sessions. I would gladly pay 100 for a 30-minute non-GFE sessions. But 300 is just way tooooo much money unless money grows on trees for you !
You wanna know why GFE costs so much when a bj is so cheap? Because with a gfe we have to actually talk to your ass! You're welcome!
Heres the thing. A girl charging under $200 is going to have to see far more men, increasing the risk for both you and her. And I don't care if someone only needs 15 minutes to get off- every session is an increase in health risk, so regardless of the positions or time length, the minimum to see me stays the same. No one has to see me, and I don't have any desperate need for business- so if I can't sell my property at the price I wish, I'll just sit on it! "BP" girls aren't stealing any truly upscale providers business, because there will ALWAYS be discerning gentlemen who desire more than just a warm hole.
And for the whiny fellas complaining about ladies "raping you financially"... Getting laid IS NOT a right- all sex workers, from the SW's on the track giving $10 bj's, to the $2000 minimum high end girls, are a LUXURY item. You don't deserve to see any lady- so pay up, shut up, or stock up on some porn and your favorite jerkoff lotions.
Kisses,
Grace
By discerning you mean "rich". I'm not rich so your attitude is garbage. From what you just wrote I would not see u because your attitude is crap. Once again a overly priced lady bashes the lower dollar girls. More of the same holier than thou attitude. Raping me financially is when you charge far more than you are worth.
C'mon girl try to defend an indefensible position. Get some
PS: I never asked for your business. Plenty of my clients aren't rich- they're looking for the service I provide and are willing to pay for it, even if it means a few months of saving up. Rape implies force- me charging more than you can afford is just another method I use to screen out assholes.
To YOU she is raping you. To another guy, he is quite happy with her.
WORTH, is in the eye of the beholder of the wallet.
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True, true. EOM
You are the typical cheap, bang for the buck asshat, so many of us priced ourselves to avoid. Let me clear this up real quick for you, doofus. I see two guys a WEEK at my rates...how many would I have to see if I charged a 3rd of that? Thanks, but no fkin thanks. The reason I am able to treat my clients like gold and offer such perks, is because I don't have to work every damn day! You wonder why so many providers end up jaded? Well, fkin 10-15 guys a week for years on end, tends to do that to a person, so please take your naivety somewhere else. Women who charge more don't so do because of GPS, we do it so we can love what we do without wanting to kill a bitch!
"Loving sex" and loving it with any loser off the street who can't even wash his ass, are far from being the same thing. You claim we are the ones with the problem here, yet all you have done is bash any woman over 200 bucks who does not use BP!
If the women you see are so wonderful, why are they not in the Top 100? Why CAN'T they charge MORE? Ooops. Talk about a contradiction if I ever saw one. And, that's not a bash on them, but on YOU! STFU already, cheap monger. No woman here wants your change...we have enough income in addition to this, to tell you to go fk yourself. How's that for "attitude?" Oh boo hoo, I guess I am off your list as well, now. I am going slit my wrist.
And, since WHEN is 300 bucks "overly priced?? Are you fkin HIGH? That is the NATIONAL AVERAGE, you moron! I charge double that, and it's not because I am a 10 in looks or can fk like a porn star...it is for one reason and one reason only...BECAUSE I CAN! Back to the track for you, pal. Let me know when a limo or a driver service is sent to get you or you have your choice of 3 private incalls and a 4 course meal, from your "quality" ass, ok? Thanks.
While we are at it honey, why have you never given higher than an 8 for performance if you're getting "what you want" lol. Nuff said, See ya!
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LMAO spit some more venom. WOW, I had no idea it was so easy to get under your skin. I TRULY, TRULY appreciate your reply. The hilarity is truly off the chart. Boo Hoo you never made my list.
By "discerning", I meant "discerning". As another gentleman stated above, some DISCERNING guys prefer to hobby a few times a year and see high quality ladies. I'm not in an indefensible position, as I have plenty of polite and DISCERNING clients who keep my schedule as full as I'd like it.
And I never bash any lady based on how she decides to structure her business model. There are girls who work on the street that provide good service, IF their service is what you are looking for. There are also great girls who post on backpage, and there are girls with lower rates who still see a low volume of clientele because it's a part time or short term thing for them. Bottom line, a lady does what works for her. Backpage nor any other venue will ever put mid-range and high end ladies out of business- for all of history there have been SW's and "low-end" girls, and they've never so much as put a damper on the demand for ladies at my level or even higher-end.
Bashing my attitude just displays your ignorance and lack of research- I'm no supermodel, but I get glowing reviews because I have an excellent attitude, and because I spoil and attend to every need of the respectful clients that i CHOOSE to see. I'm sure someone like you couldn't understand, but women who aren't destitute or desperate are absolutely in control of how the hobby works for them. I set my prices based on what my time and energy are worth to me- not based on thinking I'm "worth" more than anyone else, and sure as hell not based on what some internet man thinks I ought to charge. I'm happy, do quite well for myself, and would rather leave the industry than have to see gentlemen such as yourself, who believe they get to control what a woman does with her body.
Done dealing with trolls now, the rest of y'all have a great night!
At what point did I say I get to control what you do with your body?
hat a woman charges for her time doesn't have to make sense to you. Pay it. Don't.
Only a few minutes of real pleasure? What the hell you're doing with the other 57 minutes?....lol...
crack head, STD, HIV diseased walking the dark streets. Hobbying is a pay to play game, so either man up or quit.