Gees Louise!  It's taken me this LONG to get my name registered since the board went through a face lift!  I wasn't able to post before.  So, I hope this posts... I hope this posts...

And I've been off to Maui (first two weeks in June) to do and yet another Tantra teacher's training course.  It's amazing.  I've been studying Tantra for about a year and a half now.  And I'm *just* now getting it!  Yea the sex is way better.  But it's really a method for enlightenment.  You know, just your basic reaching out for samadi (they never say that in the course... That's just my take on things.. that and awakening to love).

So.. hi ya!  And hope to be around to interact a bit more (now that I can get it up... you know, on the board!)  XO  Faye Desiree

As a matter of course I use a security program to block everything unless I specifically allow it into my system.  Any other approach for a hobbyist is literal suicide when considering the information networks like doubleclick out there gathering your statistics any way they can.

Without security, a webmaster may get ALL sorts of info from you.  Account names, Web activity, passwords, IP Addresses, e-mail addys', and on and on.  Cookies are only one type of invasion...there are java components, active x junk, browser agents, etc...Each have their own level of risk...cookies being the lightest, but most common.

Ok...that being said.  

Faye - Your site seemed to want to place over 15 cookies on my system.  I had to block again and again.  And these cookies were not identified by a site, but rather an IP address...which would make it next to impossible to determine after the fact WHERE they came from.

Why?

This is a rhetorical question.  Maybe you don't know why...but this IS WHY I will not go back to your site..and why I avoid 90% of the sites out there in the illicit communites.  Its not that I think you are using data for nefarious purposes...but the fact remains that the information COULD be used for purposes not in the best interest of the viewer.

Too bad really...we need as many solid sources of info as possible...but not at the expense of discretion.

I would like to see you as a rather public figure..explain your stance on viewer privacy.  60 Minutes said last week that in a poll of US PC users that privacy was Public Issue #1....

For us...that would be considered an understatement...

Several years ago...I began recieving Xandria catalogs at work...and about 50 porn e-mails a day to a business e-mail which existed on the system I browsed from..as a result of user information gathered from a marketing web site.  Just in case you were wondering where all of this might go if you don't pay attention.

I would suggest all of you hobbyists out there race out right now and buy Norton Internet Secrity 2001.  It gives you a decent level of security without being too expensive.

Looky Looky

As far as security on PC's go....any Symantec/Norton Product will cause you more grief than help. In this case what is needed is a firewall like BlackIce or ZoneAlarm. Both are free for download by individuals, and offer full control of all programs, applets, cookies, etc. As for Norton...IN MY OPINION, use nothing before their rpoduct. I use McAfee products without much grief at all. sim;ple setups, clear explanations of features, and the ability to install the parts you want and not install or disable the parts you do not want. I like your site, but the pop-ups are a big NO-NO. Now all I need is your number, and we can personally explore Tantra, as I am a Tantra provider of 20 years, known in that world as Daka Michael or TantricMan. Love to see what you learned first hand, and might even show you a thing or two... Send private e-mail soon. I have this weekend partially open for fun...so hurry! eom

DateAMan

I'm nowhere nearly as aware as you are of all the stuff that can be traced back to the original viewer and user of a computer.  But I'm obviously not very paranoid about getting "caught."  I'm out there, public, living a lifestyle and making choices that even many women in the business would not be making.  But I'm just not at the place where I want to continue to be corraled by Big Bro.  Too much fear, too little time.

Case in point.  I just came home from an extensive interview with a journalist from Agence France-Presse.  That's a wireless news service that all the major newspapers in the world buy into, to take stories from and print in their papers (free lance writing, no emphasis on the "free").  The readership is about one billion.  This guy is the first member of my site.  He'll tell it all.  The potential of this story is pretty big.  Is it risky?  Perhaps... But living under a bushel is just not my thang.

I figure the gov't knows EVERYthing about me it wants to.  It'll use this info as it feels fit to when it wants to.  If I'm gonna get busted... I'm gonna get busted.  I don't spend any time or energy covering up my tracks.  They're there.  I do what I do proudly.  I've got nothing to hide.

Didn't know the stuff you pointed out about my site.  I can mention it to my webmaster.  But I'm just not a conservative, paranoid type (not suggesting you are either... truly).  Strangely enough, I don't seem to attract much negativity or negative exposure.

XO Faye

Hi guy!  I've already been a consumer of your services, I believe!!  And would love to tango with you again!

What did I learn?  It's not just the techniques or the philosophy... I think it's integrating the *hole* ball of wax.  I didn't really get that the yoni is the "mouth of god" before.  That it's the entry to one's being: the being being sacred.  I've had too much conditioning around sex to even begin to grasp new info in relationship to the sexual organs.

I didn't get that breathing and sounding clears out the old imprinting, that can be replaced by breathing in the new-found pleasure and bliss, and by sending that up the spine to the brain, creates energizing and awakening the cells (leading in time to enlightenment).  I'm just dallying with this... just kinda getting it!  But it's exciting.  If nothing else, sex is mucho better!  (Saw a client just today, who found out about me here.  We spent an hour together.  After releasing him through prostate and c*** massage, he was inside me the rest of the time.  I experienced as many intense multiple orgasms as I've experienced at any other time... amazing!  He was just a client... and it was wild!)  XO Faye Desiree

O.....k

I describe for you a physical reality.  That your site is atracting hobbyists from an illicit community, and you are gathering potential personal information...and those are the words you come up with.

This casual attitude toward the privacy of other is one of the more serious problems which plagues the net.

Nice.

I am not being negative.  I am simply making you aware that you are participating in a mass movement of denial that we on the internet have any responsibility beyond free expression.  At a certain point this will be an issue we will all have to come to terms with...as the internet attracts more of the mainstream of America.

Imagine that your television was watching you while it was on.  Each show you watched in turn recorded your every move while watching it.  Do you think that people would just stand around letting it happen?  Do you think they would demand assurance from their favorite show that this was indeed NOT occuring so that they might feel comfortable hanging around in their undies?

I think they would.  

Faye, as someone who appears to be a forerunner in the evolving concept of Internet Communites - it would be oh-so nice to see you take a direct interest in the ramifications of what you are doing.  

If you are not aware that a banner on your site is gathering data on your viewers...does this make you any less responsible?  No it does not.  You are responsible.

Considering the amount of effort you obviously put into your online presence, this little step seems relatively minor considering the resulting example that you have the opportunity to set.  Btw - you are setting one now, whether you like it or not.

Let me just end out by saying that I was very interested in your content.  I thought your layout was excellent, and the tone friendly.  If you had a concise privacy statement and seemed willing to back it up, I would be delighted to participate.

With a Smile

Looky Looky

I have been using Norton software for so long that I might be overestimating its ease of use.  Granted.  It is however remarkably effective.

As long as you use something that updates on a regular basis and will catch more than just cookies...

To use nothing is suicide.

LookyLooky

Well, I have to say something about McAfee.com. I downloaded their virus protection last year to get rid of a Macro virus, which it did successfully. I used their "ActiveGuard", again successfully, for about two months, which involves daily downloads of new anti-viral codes. Then after one download, disaster struck. My computer lost a lot of higher order control, including inability to access my Zip drive. I had to essentially reformat my hard disk to get rid of this miscreant program. Needless to say, McAfee's "technical assistance" was no help at all. Others have noted similar problems, including one Letter to the Editor of PC Magazine, who likened the McAfee viral protection to a "sick octopus" that had taken over his computer. If you insist on downloading programs such as McAfee, be sure to have preinstalled "GoBack," which can remove both offending viruses and so-called anti-viral programs.

In this day and age of Internet Commerce evolving into the mainstream of all business solutions, like it or not, and understanding the fact that over 80% of all revenue currently generated on the inernet now is generated by Adult Content Web Sites, WE ALL MUST look at security, privacy, and confidentiality of our habits and patterns, no less our private data. When generating traffic to your web site costs you and your potential clients a loss of that confidentiality and security, one must weigh the effect versus the desired result. If getting you another 100-200 hits per day will cost me my privacy at any level, I believe that it is not worth the extra 100-200 hits or even an extra million hits. As our world grows to be more internet standardized, security, privacy, and confidentiality will become one of the most important issues raised by the mass consumers you are trying to sell your wares to. When lack of or breach of security becomes know, the negative effect,in the long term, will most likely be devasting to your on going concern, resulting in a direct decrease of your income. So dramatic, that by statistics alone, I believe it would destroy even the biggest of corporations in it's backlash by the masses.

As Looky Looky has stated, it is our place to understand and be held accountable for our web content and the effects that it does have on our visitors/pontential clients. As with continuious pop up screens and unscruplious banners that target ones personal data, web history, favorite places, cached pages, and even our banking and credit card data, along with our address books, it becomes a direct violation of my personal and civil rights. Without blowing this thread up into a major freedom of speach issue, it is more about freedom to disclose or not disclose, FREEDOM OF CHOICE! By allowing your web site to take the data it wants, without notice, you are effectively taking away my right to choose. That alone and all by itself  should be enough to prevent you from permitting it to happen.

Regardless of what choice you make, you do at least have that choice, whereas your web site visitors DO NOT!

That is only my opinion...and what do I know? eom
DateAMan

Hello
I AM THE WEBMASTER  who programmed the entire website at FAYEDESIREE.COM.
I did not program  one java aplet, or any other type of cookies to attack your browsers. I dont even know how to. I am a jr webmaster, and I do not use any type of info gathering programs to invade anyones privacy.
I apriciate the vote of confidence in my programming skills, but I honestly make websites as simple as can be, including no pop ups. And no banners, except on our link page. So please relax and dont feel you cant look into our unique website. We are only trying to entertain, and explore human sexuality. Nothing more.


Aaron  webmaster  fayedesiree.com

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Hello, again,
I am webmaster of Faye's site. We do not have cookie gathering banners, nor do we have one pop up browser. All we have is image galleries, and downloadable video clips. And some written erotica, and our message board. Where do you come up with all of this paranoid ideas about how we are invading your privacy? Do you honestly think I have nothing better to do than gather stats on your viewing paterns?
I barely have time to run our website, let alone create more new content. Please, cut me some slack!

Aaron   webmaster

Hi Faye,

I am sure sex with you is good in any way Cookies or no Cookies!  Please call me next time you are in town and we can do doubles or just you know!  I personally have a router and switch at my house... that's what happens when you have too many computers hooked up... it leaves out the middle man... but he may be cute... my loss!

XXXOOO Ashley

PS:  I have use both Black Ice and Zone Alarm.  Black Ice is the best in my opinion... Zone Alarm just seemed to slow down my computer.  Now with my router... I don't have to worry about it.

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Wanna be a goddess or one of my Fantasy Girls of the Month?  Or how 'bout a photo shoot between you, me and Felicia Foxx when I come out next month (out to LA, mais bien sur)!  Thanks for your vote of confidence!

And I have a router and that's about all I know about that!!  XO Faye Desiree

Alright...lets get something straight.  I am not...I repeat, I am NOT paranoid.  I feel that paranoia is the first resort of folks who don't ask enough questions....unreasonable fear of the unknown.

I know the risks, and protect against them.  When you are aware of the potential of a situation, then there is nothing to fear.

I just went back to Faye's site.  I used SEVERAL different programs.  Here is what I found.

When you enter the site a single cookie is served up by 65.108.108.161.  I deny the cookie and say I do not want any more.  Fine....but

Upon entering the message board section I had to deny no less than 8 cookies per step I took.  The gallery seems clear, but last week was not.

It is possible that the software or service being used for the Board is causing this.  Many Web Sites use outsourced hosting for message boards as it makes overall Admin Easier.  

what folks need to understand about this string is that I am not intentionally targeting Faye for any particular reason.  I am simply using her site as an example.  The replies from Faye and Aaron, her webmaster seem to indicate that I should just accept whatever is going on there as it is new or on a shoestring or whatever....

Your replies are exactly why I posted in the first place...
Casual attitudes are the death of privacy...what was once your right...like not having LE burst into your living room without due process being followed...is no longer the case.  Without diligence on all of our parts, we simply do not have any rights in an elctronic medium...And whatever level of privacy WE DEMAND...will become the legislation which we all have to live with.

Stand up, Speak up...or lose you chance.  When the government decides to finally deal with legislation surrounding privacy, we will be stuck with what they do...at least as a starting point.

Aaron - as for cutting you some slack -you might take the time to notice that I had some very nice things to say about the physical construction and layout of the site.  You're Welcome for the unanswered compliments.  

And one last note on my excessive "paranoia" - IF I were...I would start yapping about online commerce, Credit Information, and most importantly "Carnivore"...the FBI's monster software which allows them to breeze through all e-mail, chat, and newsgroup content at will.  Just because "Big Brother" has been Parodied in print does not make it impossible for it to exist.  The real bottom line on big brother is that the government already HAS access to whatever information they wish electronically...and IMHO it does not make a large difference for the most part.  DISSEMINATING that much information makes it as useless as not having any.  It is the private sector I worry more about....since it has no real checks and balances and is not hindered by a mind-numbing bureaucracy as the Feds are.


All the best...

LookyLooky

Worth reading for those of us who know just enough about computers to get around the net, but also to get ourselves in trouble because of what we don't know.

I think this may be a case of "...white man speak with forked tongue..." Time (aka AOL-Time Warner) promises to be, along with Microsoft, one of the great offenders of our personal freedoms. A current Salon article details how both these megalopolies are gunning to revert the Internet to proprietary standards. In the words of Junior Soprano, in no time "...these guys will have their head so far up our ass, we'll be tasting Brylcream.."

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