Mostly out of curiousity, has any hobbiest been successful at persuading a provider to perform a service that is normally off the menu? Such as BBBJ, CIM, COF, Greek.. Of course I'm talking about by means of charm, begging, or offering upcharges. Many hot providers do not offer all the services I prefer. I try my luck at them and ask for it during the session, but never in a pushy or pressuring ways. So far almost all providers refuse to change their offerings, even with extra offers. Perhaps I'm just an ugly fucker without any charms.

and like it . since you have reviews pm stp ( only throwing your name out cause he has reviews and is in your area) and perhaps youll get what your looking for .good luck old ugly fucker .  

Because as it turns out the ladies here really have no clue what they like, what they're comfortable with and what health risks they're willing to take. So of course I come in and figure all that out for them. And as for their postings, profiles and ads that state they have no interest in negotiations and that state clearly what activities they are willing to participate in,  well those are all like the Pirate Code--more like what you would call guidelines.  So as for me I will continue to disregard and disrespect each lady's stated menu because we all know how they love a little paternalistic condescension.

My, you are a real indignant and smug sun of a gun, aren't you?

Here's a couple of e's for you.

Respecting boundaries is very important.

Um....I think it's called sarcasm....

Why not just find ladies whose menu covers what you like, instead of trying to get others to change their menu?
Do you go into KFC and try to get them to give you a Big Mac?

But when there is trust and a connection (someone I see often) I have no problem inquiring if there's any fantasies or things they may want to do to keep things spicy.

In my experience, being a regular client might get you a little something extra.  Without you even mentioning it.
I realize that some guys don't repeat...  I respect that, but I prefer to have one or two regulars.  Mutual respect and trust (and pleasure!) is usually a by-product of repeated visits.  
Just my 2 Lira

by some girls who have done things like CIM,Greek and DFK whose reviews did not reflect it. Not sure why but I do book extended time with girls and maybe that helps but in general I feel that I would rather a girl be comfortable with what she is doing and do what she does best.

If you have to convince someone to do something they don't really like doing, what are you gaining out of it? She is FOR SURE only doing it for the extra cash you had to fork up to get it. If I did not like doing bbbj and cim, I would not have had it on my menu. Now, money does talk so I did have one guy pay me 5k to take a shit on his dumb ass and another had me dress up like a chicken and hatch my eggs for him. Don't ask lol. When it comes to dumb and gross stuff, I will pretty much do anything for the right amount of cash, but unsafe and immoral acts (BBFS, Privates to Privates massage, incest, children, animals) there is no fkin way

Very odd question. I mean there are providers that don't offer Greek but 100% of the providers I know... or for that matter what probably is 80% of those I heard off offer the other 3 and 50% of them probably offer Greek.  

And a sure way to get a refusal.  Just sit back and let it happen, then be grateful.  And don't put it in a review, or you'll never get it again

Then you are good to go.  If not, suck it up buttercup and do your research next time.  Will a lady do more for you sometime if she feels like it? Perhaps, but by asking for something she has already specified is against her will, then you are just being a dick.

Or don't go and see providers whose menu doesn't include what you want

And then, once BCD's, you try your luck at asking for something you already know she doesn't offer. And you're not having much luck with this approach (despite your charm or offer of more money)? And, you've done this more than once, with same results?

you'd turn me down????

and lo and behold they are now offering a crunch wrap... Hmm... Hmm... Good...

have you tried using hot sauce to keep things spicy during sex?

hot sauce lube would be very... umm...  stimulating.  LMAO

"If anyone asks me for something, it's the quickest way to get me to say no"... No mention of what is or isn't on the menu...  So EXCUSE ME for trying to add a little levity...

But no way I am smelling the steak that went in her last night...Yuk....

It's a great way to kill the mood in a session, and also lose her trust. She will never comfortable with you...so your chances of getting ANYTHING off the menu, EVER, are pretty much shot. In fact, she might relegate you to some sort of "Only when broke" folder and/or just DNS you altogether.

If you want a service, book with a gal who offers it.  It's just dumb & insulting to ask for items which you know she's not comfortable with.  VIP is cheaper than even one spoiled date!

I would rather part on good terms than have her think I cannot read or do research. Better to sample off of a large menu than to try and order Souvlaki in a French place.

From my limited experience:

I will drop his ass faster than a hot potato.

There have been providers who have told me no way to Greek or bondage.  I ask if I do a multiple hour appointment and sometimes they say yes. Others it takes years.  Others no way in hell will they try it. Another trick I use is to tell them their provider friend let me do it.

wrps etc loves this trick, he just tells the lady he is with if he wants Greek, "your friend does it".  How would you handle this scenario? I ask because your replies make me laugh my ass off and I dare wrps etc to try that shit with you.

That's what the search function on TER is for, lol  

I have a small anal dildo I use with anal lube on the provider to introduce them to Greek.  Works pretty good they tell me it feels good. If the asshole opens I Greek her. Many ladies don't do Greek because bad first experience.

"another trick you use?". Jeepers dubya-Pee-ess-oh-seven. Do you really keep pushing on a non-available 'menu item', for years? I guess you can eventually wear a girl down until she finally says yes. But why would you want to?

No matter how many teeny little dildos you bring.  

There is a chance she might like it as well. I cannot understand a guy who would push a lady to do something they really don't want to do, unless that is the turn on. It has to be a power play of sorts.  

...er...pull out...when they're trying to convince a lesbian that the only reason she loves women is because she just hasn't fucked "him" yet.....lol...

...if you push hard enough.

So...you should be able to stuff any body part you want, in an orifice you want, with any degree of force you want? Because this is her JOB, and you need it your way?

I tried to see any joke in that but just can't.

Its a fucking business. I always ask though; never demand.
Anyone who's fucking offended bye a question of simple business need to take up another position where dogmatism is the standard.

I am asked frequently if we'd change "this" or "that". We usually don't but we HAVE made changes on occassion.

I don't do fast food, but I may have to see what that crap tastes like. It's breakfast item... yah, TB is now serving breakfast to make up those fixed costs bwahahaha.

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With certain things I definitely stick to my guns, but others not so much. A handsome, charming, generous gentleman can get me to bend the rules a little bit as long as it is not out of my comfort zone. It's all about how you ask!  

I think if providers aren't consistent with their menu, things get messy and soon people start walking in and out doing whatever they want.

A provider let me CIM which is NOT listed in her profile.  She said it was HOT.

But I'm a creep.  I'm a weirdo.  What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here ~

Yeah I find that being a boor and a jerk with the ladies really sets the mood.  Just like I love those ladies who tell me the fee quoted was just for showing up and everything else is extra.

or is that a "bitch ass punk"?

Why the word "no" is so fucking hard for you to understand is beyond me.  

Some guys go to the bank, get the envelope, go through screening, wait for a room number and STILL manage to block out the nature of p4p.  

DTL that borders on rape, and no matter how much time goes by every girl who read that won't forget it. My brain did a match click. DTL? Oh the rape guy. Synapsis formed, connection complete.  

I have no words for slithering little nematodes like wsrp and DT_lover. They belong on some island filled with disease so they can forcibly fuck each other and catch something that makes their dicks rot off their bodies.

He says, " But your friend does greek."

Guys, this is real. You have no idea what kind of sick shit pops in our mind when you act like this, and you never know when you're going to get the girl who has *really* decided to make sure you don't come back.

Good lord... some of us know the dude. Get crucial. For the record, just about 80 percent of you fks push our head in some form or fashion during a bj... should we kick you in the head? I threw up on a bloke once... it was hilarious and NOT an accident. Never touched my fkin head again.  

and I took dtl comment as a joke.  I wasn't paying much attention to his comment cuz no matter how hard I push it isn't going any deeper than an inch lol.  

They didn't think so. Nope just punk ass bitches who either have done it or agree with pushing things to a limit that has pissed of three active hookers.  

And where did I say I was setting up hidden cams (NOT A HOOKER). I mentioned to the LADIES to set up hidden cams. How else are they going to prove some asshole assaulted them? Oh that's right they can give a hobby name, a hobby phone and a hobby email.  

If I did not know him, I would have responded in the same way they have, which is why I wanted everyone to know he is fkin around. As for a punk ass bitch... know one? Trust me... guys damn well should know when that line is crossed or they will know when half of their d*ck is still in her mouth when she brings up her head.

you sound like a girl though...  but if you're not providing it wouldn't matter to me anyway.

Otherwise you lost me...Or else you mean the normal thing where a woman offers something to you she only offers to the select good clients she feels comfortable with.