From reading most of the responses to the Dirty Jesus rant, it's apparent that a lot of the ladies and White Knights would like nothing better than to squelch an honest expression of a point of view.
I may not agree with it but I'll defend to the death (or at least permanent moderation) his right to express it!

thought this was a discussion board, but it all seems to be so hostile and so cryptic. what is this hostility all about?

When questioning this in an eariler thread, I was told that subtilty was better  i.e, shut up....huh

wonder why people leavethis forum?  I would prefer to think that Dirty Jesus simply had a painful evening.  We all have that happen to us....




-- Modified on 8/14/2006 11:36:41 PM

I've never subscribed to the theory that a board devoted to "Fucks for Bucks" should be a white gloved high tea with the queen. Down & Dirty is WAY preferable IMHO.

-- Modified on 8/15/2006 5:26:46 AM

Expressing opinions is a great thing, and if it sparks debate then it's even better, but there are those here that seem to have forgotten that it's not only what you say, to get your point across, but also how you say it.

I agree, we all have the right to express our opinions, but I feel at times there should be alittle more thought put into how we come off when we do so.

VERBALLY (yes you too, mr enema whatever, in the name of pseudofantasy as mr. bd aka whocares) and then beating us over the head with constantly ENTITLING it  "self expression" (yeh, it's all about self), is now a desired and admirable work of 'ART'????

CAN I SAY VOMIT ENOUGH TIMES?

I have stayed off the board for a long time, only to come back to ridicule, backstabbing and undermining....

Why would ANYONE want to stay here.  Has TER become beyond depraved?

I feel sorry for the young ladies aboard who feel they truly must put up with this crap.  It's not normal.  I would NEVER EVER EVER  have the heart tp endure this disgusting depravity. And this is a SUPPOSED moderator (Ben Dover aka Dirty Jesus) joking around with credible members like mr info and snowblind?

Something is very very sick here.  There is no reason that the nice people must be either POISONED OR RIDICULED.

EVIL, EVIL SHIT.



-- Modified on 8/15/2006 12:03:38 AM

That thread does not reflect the usual tone of this board.

It is eye-opening, though, no?

-- Modified on 8/15/2006 12:03:31 AM

You are definitely the smartest guy I know and you prove it just about every time you post. I disagree with the harsh bashing and innuendo, it seems like its turning into another TBD around here.

over the head enough...and no one is supposed to say anything.

Excuse me. Too much AIRPLAY.  And no, that was not 'ART'....

Not until vomit is art.

to him or anyone else on that thread. No post was disappoved.

"Mr. bendover aka dirty jesus has been beating the readers over the head enough...and no one is supposed to say anything."

and women are from Venus.

This is why the "Reviewer Only" and other such men only boards are gaining such popularity.

 Over the course of time the co-ed boards have become veritable estrogen pools where stark candor or blunt veracity is vilified by the ladies and their ever present guard of whiteknights. Depending on the website and the agenda of it's administration these co-ed boards run the gamut from level playing field (vehemently loathed by the ladies) to an Oprah-esque misandry party where the whiteknight guard and all the male participants remove their testis before entering.

 The Post/thread in question here was colorfully written. What a SHOCK being it is in a forum devoted to BBBJs, DATY and the worlds oldest profession. The author pointed the finger at no particular person; but rather an ilk of identifiable stereotypes. Since neither the words nor subject matter are foreign to this forums genre; the only people I can see becoming upset are those who see their reflection in the author's muse, and as we know; mirrors have historically held a love hate relationship with many women.
 



-- Modified on 8/15/2006 1:09:15 AM

DJ has had his rant which turned to a pissing contest.
Shouldn't we all drop it NOW and let DJ crawl back into the hole he came from?
Schluss. Fertig. Termine. End. Oshimai.
Or should I have added the 4-letter word starting with A that is used in more polite circles where J is not qualified as unwashed?

Dirty Jesus does't crawl back in hole at you becken! I'm a free moral agent, your restrictions don't apply...

you Failed to mention is, (sadly), there are a BOATLOAD of Men from Venus on the boards too.  LMAO

-- Modified on 8/15/2006 5:33:49 AM

...And that was only because he was getting annoying and off topic... not because of any point or opinion he was attempting to express...

I don't wonder why people leave this forum... I know why!
Because a clique has formed and developed their own code-of-conduct for this board, and this old-guard of PC mediocrety squelchs community growth by nit-picking anyone that comes in here and swims against the flow... what they don't realize is the "flow" in this room has created an eddy... which has become a stagnating pool... But I'm a strong swimmer!
Dirty Jesus will be around a while....

Some self-rightous ass stands up and says "I don't want to control what you say, I only want to control HOW you say it!".... Yeah right!
That's where it starts, layer upon layer, until such bondage has been created by your colectivly enforced protacols that any attempts at new thought from those outside the group are met with objection and a group of followers crying "here, here!".... This thead; case-in-point!





-- Modified on 8/15/2006 4:18:25 AM

Your mere statement that it isn't is meaningless... Who are you that you think you can sit over me in judgment??
(Or more simply put "who are you?"... I've never taken notice of your username before, but I wasn't really looking for it either... However, you must be a VERY important person in this room the way you throw your weight around like you own the place.... Sorry I wasn't aware this was YOUR board.... And I'm still not, so make room!

Nobody is "beating you over the head" with anything... And I certainly am open to any counter opinions you may have... Even your opinion that Mr. Info is a quality member of this board! As outright LAUGHABLE as that opinion is, you have every right to hold it!
But what what I am NOT open to is your implied request for my post to be disallowed on account of your "feelings" towards it... Not very open-minded of you! Not that you're required to be open-minded... You are free to be anything you want to be, or nothing at all for that matter... You just can't set the tone or standards that I operate under!

I think you inability to control me upsets you more than the content of my post!
But that's just one man's opinion....

Why can't you take the colorful responses?

I did not notice Cape calling for her post to not be aired!
...It is still to be seen if you can "handle the colorful" or not.... It seems that you are hedging toward containment theology yorself... Am I wrong?

Personally, I wouldn't let my children on this board....

As to the rest of your blather:

-- I only "titled" my posts "Art"... Not "entitled", which is entirely different!

-- I don't recall implying that my work was "Admirable"... Don't put words in my mouth to thicken your argument... It makes you look like even more of a fool...

-- You didn't "come back to ridicule, backstabbing and undermining"... My post had nothing to do with you, Infact I don't even know you(or want to!)And any resemblance you may feel to my fictional character is purely accedental... What delusion of grandeur on your part to write yourself into the plot!

-- can you say "vomit" enough? I don't know, how many times have you tried saying it?

-- I don't think it is nessessary to "feel sorry for the young ladies"... They can't relate to my post, and it wasn't written with them in mind...

-- "credible members like mr info and snowblind"... Surely you jest!  By what standard of weight and measure have they been deemed "credable"? Especially Mr. Info, who is the known laughing-stock of TER! Snowblind, I've never taken note of, until his recent sniveling PC whinings about my post... But I'll credit you with properly lumping them together!

-- "Something is very very sick here."... Really? like what?

--  "There is no reason that the nice people must be either POISONED OR RIDICULED."... My post wasn't directed at any "nice people",  If the shoe don't fit... Then you're not Cinderella!

--"EVIL, EVIL SHIT"... Really? why?

He is more deserving! Stone Him !

-- Modified on 8/15/2006 3:42:09 PM

That's how the bums form their little enclaves under bridges! They just stink up the area with there fecies and piss, and others avoid their squatted-plot!

And that stratagy has worked here for a while, whereas the PC-junkie farts and two or three others chime in with their "I agree" or "well said" quips to show force-in-numbers! (and further fan the fart in our faces!)

ENOUGH! It's not time for changing of the guard on this board,,, It's time to tell some of these fools THE AREN'T GUARDS! And never were! Time for the self-appointed thought police to stand down and stop attempting citizens-arrest!

-- Modified on 8/15/2006 7:30:00 AM

I believe it's your inability to control women that upsets you.

FF is a valued contributor to this board and a highly-respected provider and lady. Insightful, funny, and one of the nicest ladies you could ever meet, she is one of the good guys.

You are an interloper here. A rude one, at that.

I welcome fresh points of view and new participants to this forum, as I value our seasoned participants. But, you just are insulting others.  

Now, stop shitting all over everyone here.

If you honestly for one second think this board should be a place for us to set examples for our sons and daughters, that is about as sick as Mr.Info being a credible member - no wonder you refer to vomit so much.

You feel sorry for the young ladies, naw - i think not - not many young ladies have your OLD narrow minded vomit attitude - Thank you Jesus HA

You know better, and I won't warn you again. Next time, I will change all your aliases on this topic to your username.

You just keep whining that you be allowed to post
your hatred.  But after all is said and done,
you were allowed, and people judged it to be less
than worthy.  Now deal with the judgement.  Just
because something is non-PC in your mind doesn't
make it worthy of anything.

You can't attempt to control people to make them
like your posts.  A majority of posters have
class!

I would prefer to see a little higher tone in here, but that's just me.

I believe in free expression, and sometimes that means the low down and dirty.  So be it.

All I am saying is that you are getting back what you put out in the first place, so don't be surprised at that.

A somewhat less defensive posture would enhance your positions quite a bit.

You might even enjoy the response more, or are you getting the response you want.

It's hard to tell sometimes.

(and his thesaurus), you were very awkward with your logical fallacies in this post. They're way too glaring for your argument to be convincing. I'm no expert, but a course in rhetoric might help you. Just a suggestion.

compared to now.  I think of the mature, strong people who I met through this board, and most of whom I still call friends.  

It is not coincidence that almost all of them are no longer here.

An overt political swing allowing for baseless allegation, rumor and conjecture on the part of the manipulative PC often gives impetus for the old-guard you speak to tread clandestinely.

Does that count? Just kidding. Actually, I know a few of those people he speaks highly about and they were nice, educated and well-spoken contributors. I like to be objective about everyone. Therefore, I think we still have a few good men (and women) around and a few newbies to match wits. However, I'm part of the Old Guard on this Board, so does that count?

Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 8/16/2006 10:15:45 PM

I think the differences in people and where they were raised and/or live must be taken into account when it comes to PC civility. MSD comes from a region that is SOOO PC it makes someone from the N. East want to hurl. A New Yorker will get right in your face over an issue where a Southerner may just politely smile, placate, and then seek a more surreptitious form of rebuttal.

 Overt rude & crude is what it is and measured by the people reading/hearing it. As long as it's kept within the parameters of posting rules and not turned into "argumentum ad hominum" it should be considered free expression.

 GND has my respect for allowing the candor in this debate. There are some pukeshit, pantywaist discussion boards to be found on the internet, within the context of the hobby that would have either censored the whole discussion or favored one agenda.( Barney the dinosaur’s side)
The ensuing vigor and length of these respected threads is a testament to the balance of free speech and adroit moderation.

“Freedom of speech isn't about protecting the idea you like; it's about protecting the idea you don't like."
(Larry Flint)

And I certainly agree with the "Freedom of speech" part. Personally, I didn't take this post too seriously as I considered it to be a post to get everyone's blood boiling. Plus, I also think the poster was expressing possible bad feelings toward ladies he didn't have a good time with -- so sad. The only part I didn't enjoy hearing was "Cunt" but that's his choice of words and that's for him to figure out what is commonly acceptable and what is offensive. But you do have to admit that there will always be someone who feels a post was directed at him or her. How could any woman past 45 not feel somewhat insulted? I'm 46, but I know I'm still fun and give a true GFE experience. I may have the heart of a child, the body of maybe someone in her late twenties or early thirties, yet the mind of an 80-year old woman.  I had a great time in my twenties, as in my thirties and now forties. However, I wouldn't go back to 20 if you paid me. I'm much more aware and accepting of my naked body and of other's that grace my doorway.

Hugs,
Ciara

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