There is a provider who routinely advertises in Tryst. I reached out to her. She responded and said I could go see her between 10-2 weekdays at a massage parlor.

I looked up the massage parlor website and saw her as one of the massagers (she goes by a different name on the massage parlor website than she does in her Tryst ad, but it’s the same woman).

In the massage parlor website it shows their price for massages is $150. This lady advertises on Tryst for $400 an hour.

However on the massage parlor website it also says in big bold letters that “Sexual services are illegal and they will prosecute anyone who attempts that on the women.”

Is it safe to go to this massager/escort and pay her $450 for the “full experience?” What if there are cameras in the massage rooms and they see this and have me arrested?

Maybe I’m paranoid but I’m not sure if this is a safe way to see this woman. She’s super hot (according to her pictures) but is it worth it to try to have the “full experience” with her at a massage parlor?

You could go to meet her for a massage at a cost of $150 + tip. Does she match her pics? Is she nice? Is there chemistry? You could bring up that you saw her on tryst and say you'd like to meet her on the OUTSIDE some other time ... you don't want to get her in trouble with management, you'll pay for a hotel room, you prefer privacy to someone barging in, etc..
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If you don't like her for some reason (fake pics / bait and switch; bad personality match to you; terrible massage, terrible service, any excuse), you're out $150-$200, but with a massage, and you know to pass on the tryst ad.
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In the meantime, check your local news stories to see if there have been any recent massage parlor busts. If so, it could mean that this place is being extra careful or even cooperating with LE to report solicitation by clients.

Usually massage parlors like these are not going to have their own cameras to record themselves, but they can certainly be placed by LE..  Whether LE will place them or not, or will even care depends a lot of their desire to prosecute crimes, which in turn also depends on local politics.  

 
While we don't know your situation, where you live, and the county and state you are hobbying in, I will say this.. The desire to prosecute such "crimes" in big cities like LA, NYC, DC has gone down in recent years..  If you live in a very RED state, you could be looking at a different situation altogether.  That being said even as RED as FL has been in recent days, there are tons of parlors in Orlando, Ft Myers area - to name a few.  

 
Now, lets talk about YOU.. Are you a high profile person? Will someone benefit from seeing you get in the NEWS? It was probably a mistake for Robert Kraft to go to a parlor..  A buddy of mine is running for school board. Not a high profile position, but probably not a good idea for him to frequent such places...  Do you have a wife who could be suspicious of your activity and might have a private investigator on your tail?

 
And lastly, safe or unsafe is relative. Some people are OK with certain level of risk.. Stocks are risky.. Money Market account not so much..  But then there are IBM, Microsoft, Walmart stocks and then speculative stocks..  You think speculative IPO stocks are risky, then try crypto..   Oh you think BITCOIN and Ether are risky, try one of those meme coins.  

 
So as you see, it's all relative..  

 
Hopefully, that answers some of your questions..

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Great advice. -eom-

In general, I agree with imposter's idea.  Try the low risk "just massage" experience 1st then see where your conversation leads as you get the massage.  

 
But a few thoughts before you book:  
- Does she have any non-shill reviews? Either on TER or elsewhere...  
- Does she have any other escort and/or massage ads? Google-search her phone and email. If she has ads in multiple locations, or under the same phone/email but different pics, age, height/weight, etc., yellow/red flags.  
- Do you see any reviews or ads for the massage parlor? Can you see anything that suggests that the location (not necessarily this provider) offers services?  

 
There used to be an escort who worked at a well-known San Francisco strip club. Her ads (on a now shut-down local site) openly stated that she would provide IN THE CLUB. The ad included prices and services and she suggested that you had to meet her at least once at the club before you could book her for other locations like your home/hotel.  This was totally real, and she was legit.  The club had to be aware and even condone this.  However, I need to point out that San Francisco has a VERY high tolerance for non-street walker prostitution. The have a "don't let us see it" attitude. That is not the norm for far too many municipalities in the rest of the country.  

 
 If you decide to get the rub down - and avoid the risk of the shake down - please let us know how it went  

 
Life is good

 
Ther Cat

is take Impposter's advice to test the situation and see if passes the sniff test.  What you still won't know is whether the OWNERS of the massage shop will still prosecute you if they catch you in the act, or whether that is just hyperbole to cover their own ass in case YOU are LE.  If you are still leery, when you see her the first time for the massage, tell her you would be happy to see her as an escort but you would prefer her to come and meet you at a local hotel room.  You will be out the price of the room, but it doesn't have to be fancy and YOU will control the safety and security of the situation. Just tell her going off-site assures that YOU won't be responsible for getting her in trouble with her bosses if they find out what you are doing at the shop.

I google searched and didn’t find any reviews for this lady (“Summer” on Tryst and “Emma” on the massage parlor website) when I looked her up by her name or phone number on TER or even doing a general google search. Maybe she is new or maybe she changed her name and phone number and there’s no history tied to this.

However I found a discussion thread about this massage parlor at Reddit.

Some people were asking questions about was this legitimate and other guys posted that they had been and had a great experience. If you provide a big tip, the women will massage you topless and give you a HE and BJ and some hinted that they even had the full experience with them.  

But then again, the guys who posted this may be employees of the place who are hoping to drum up business by providing these types of “reviews.”

I sent another text to her asking about a hotel room possibility. She hasn’t responded yet. I might have pissed her off and now she’s going to ghost me. Sometimes that happens with the escorts on Tryst ads. You say the wrong thing and never hear from them again.

And some elaboration on Herb's reply:  

Reviews: There are some websites that focus on massage parlors but they can't be named specifically in the forums because they do or did include reviews. One of them kind of provided geographic MAPS of places to find a massage or get a good RUB.  The other one catered more to HUNTERS on the prowl for parlors or SPAS where they could go to have a good time.  
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Location: I am assuming that you are talking about a spa-like legit massage parlor, maybe next to a Chuck-E-Cheese or dry cleaner, NOT an apartment massage parlor. We don't know where you are and the SOPs differ all over the place, even between nearby locations, e.g., downtown spas versus strip mall spas 20 miles away. At some spas, the most you can expect is a happy ending (HE) (hand job) and maybe some fondling or a body slide. Sometimes people seem to imply that they got full service but that can be awkward on a massage table or if you're worried about someone entering the room looking for some clean towels or something left behind. I think that HE is the most common and sometimes also the most you can expect at a spa. (Others? mrfisher, are you here? Opinion?) $450 for a massage parlor HE is too much.
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If you (OP) can provide more info (location, link to the ad for the massage parlor or the tryst ad), we might be able to provide more opinions and ideas.

is that you want it too bad, and you're willing to overlook red flags (which from my vantage point, are several).

 
Many fish in the sea.

Summer? Emma? Give us LINKS. Give your city or geographical area ... no, just give us your CITY.
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If you go for a massage, you can scope the place out. Their procedures: "please wear a robe" vs "strip naked, please." Their staffing: just Summer? Summer and 6 others you can CHOOSE from (according to your eyeball preferences). And so on.
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Yeah ... you were spooked by the unknowns about this spa. (WHAT SPA? LINK!!!) So you came to TER for advice. She was spooked when asked to leave her safe zone (spa) and go to a hotel with some still unknown stalker guy. If the subject came up while you were prone naked on the massage table it would have been a lot less scary to her ... even tho' she might still say No.  
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What I do know from mrfisher's posts is that it sometimes takes a few visits for a masseuse to get comfortable with him and to provide more services.  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/it-can-take-a-long-time-to-convert-a-gal-3991
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Search "Massage Parlors" board for more of mrfisher's posts and threads:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/glad-that-worked-for-you-but-4022
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/start-with-a-place-that-has-the-right-vibes-4004
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/i-have-found-that-making-eye-contact-is-the-most-3999
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/in-the-north-east-finding-an-amp-that-offers-more-than-a-hj-is-seemingly-becoming-problematic-4040
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/massage-parlors-56/what-is-your-priority-good-massage-or-hot-sex-4031

offer no massage and are fronts for full service. It could be a situation like that. Since you don't mention your location it may or maybe apply to where you are.

AFA the big bold lettering on their website, it could just be an attempt to have LE think they are legit, which of course is ridiculous but they might think it will work to stay UTR.

Two nights ago, I got FS on a massage table for the first time in years... at an AMP.  
 
I've watched a local AMP-in-name-only go from ads that had explicit service offering descriptions, incl. FS, to now listing only suggestive words and the standard AMP house fee of btw $60-80/hr. The change happened during the local EC shakeup of a month ago.  
 
Under very unusual circumstances, a couple nights ago I wanted to get to an AMP.  I thought of this one immediately.  Texting alone won't work anymore, you have to call, and still they will only give you the massage fees and a "come and find out."

Perhaps you misunderstood or I didn’t make things as clear as I should have.

1. This lady advertises in Tryst as Summer and promises “full service” for $350. (I mistakenly typed in $450 earlier.)

2. I reached out and sent her a text message telling her I would be interested. She responded immediately by telling me I can see her at the massage parlor and she’s always there between 10-2 on weekdays. She told me she goes by Emma.

3. I looked up the massage parlor online and found Emma/Summer’s pictures and the massage parlor info. It shows you can get a massage for $150. I then texted her and asked if I gave her $350 instead of $150 would I get more than a massage and she confirmed I would.

4. I found the disclaimer on the massage parlor website and started having second thoughts about seeing her there. I don’t know if it would be safe.

5. So I sent her another text asking if we could meet in a hotel instead. Since then she has ghosted me.

Remember SHE ADVERTISED ON TRYST!!! She offers an outcall option, which usually would be to go to a hotel, right? Few guys want the same omen going to their home addresses, especially if they’re married. So why would she think I’m an “unknown stalker guy,” as impposter suggested, when I’m simply responding to the ad that she placed on Tryst! And she was quick to respond to me when I first responded to her ad and she directed me to go the massage parlor. After I asked about the outcall hotel option instead she doesn’t want to talk to me.

This sort of thing drives me crazy about these ads on Tryst. A provider offers a half hour option on Tryst with the price. I send a text asking about this and get ghosted. No response at all. She doesn’t want to set up a time for me with her half hour option EVEN THOUGH SHE OFFERS IT ON TRYST!!! But then if I text that same woman a couple of minutes later from the same phone number and ask about her 90 minute option — now she’s answering my texts! Wow! And she doesn’t even acknowledge she received my earlier texts inquiring about 30 minutes! I’ve had this happen several times.

1. The massage parlor (STUDIO 22) is listed on rubmaps. Emma is reviewed several times and gets good reviews each time. Guys who’ve experienced her have enjoyed the experience.

2. There are other hot women at that place who also get good reviews. Some of the reviews are of getting a BBBJCIM from these women. But the tips have to be pretty substantial according to their reviews. There’s one hot woman in their pictures, Caroline, who gets good reviews and a couple of the reviews show she gave BBBJCIM.  

So that answers your questions about the name of the place. I’m very intrigued as to what would happen if I went there with about $300-$400 and asked to see Emma or Caroline and see what experience I could have.  

Or maybe it would make more sense to just get a real provider who would charge that much and I’d be guaranteed to have the total experience.

I've heard there's a plethora of bullshit reviews on that site, what's your take on this?

I've also been a member of RM for years and you've got to take the reviews with a grain of salt. There's been a lot of fake reviews lately, with some places paying to have shills write reviews for them. Seems like fake reviews are getting worse on RM everyday. There's a lot of complaining about it in the forum section there, so ideally your best bet is to go to the shop in question and find out for yourself.

(Maybe) She’s making her money as a massage therapist and meeting potential escort clients in the business location, which has its limitations. I used to do it when I danced in clubs. Meet her. Check her out. She’ll check you out. Then a successful sexy rendezvous can be set up Off the business premises.

Hey, it’s just $150 for a happy ending massage, which is reasonable if the masseuse it topless/naked and allows some touching! I usually go into a happy ending massage with the mindset, “if the girl is hot and I’m feeling comfortable, I will request more options. Perhaps bbbj, daty or FS. Expanding your activities is probably no less safe than lying naked on your back getting a “handy”! Don’t sweat the lack of reviews! Pay for upgrades on the spot if you want! I used to see an Eastern European girl in the valley for FS at a massage parlor. The first time I walked in and saw her body I knew I wanted FS, so I asked for it on the spot! From then on we always dove right in! I think the price was $400 including the basic $150 massage price. We were never interrupted and I was never uncomfortable.

I thought your post would be about sex toys than run on both gasoline and electricity.  Lol

Just go see her. Plenty of have had FS hookups at massage parlors.

Market st cinema, la gals, I can’t even remember some of the names, but they were all basically brothels. Mitchell Bros was king of ‘‘em all but really pricey. The market st clubs had awesome talent and the back rooms were set up for FS. All races, all styles, bbfs always available!  It was actually the last period of my hobbling career where I saw non Asians. The only eta where all races were equally slutty and permissive. I kinda wonder if it was like FKK in a way, as you could go to the club for a door fee and then partake of many slits over the day.  

 
I’m on basic since I’m off the kgirl dope for a while due to cost, so reply here if you reply.