Yes, there are women who I could hang out with pre and post sex, and just enjoy their company.  However, I will not pay for that experience; it has to be OTC.

A lot more now then usual now too then in the past as the SB effect starting to bleed into TER style escorting, which is great for us mongers.

Girls who didnt do the OTC thing before starting to come around.

And sure, if I am not busy, I don't mind if the girls hangs out for a bit.

...with me after a session to just have a cup of coffee and chat. I enjoy it immensely.

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I love it. I have done that many times with two favorites in the past. OTC late lunch or dinner after PTP time.

Yesterday OTC.  I paid for a couples massage at the Ritz Carlton and a steak dinner at Flemings next door, but nothing for her time, including a few hours of bedroom time at her place in Ktown.

if not more so.

Theater, movies, concerts, museums, and of course, dining are all great experiences

My ATF is a fascinating, charming and always interesting woman and I've found over the years that our time together gets longer as I love the play and non-play aspects of our time together.

I would gladly spend more and more time with her as I'm always a little sad when our time together comes to an end, but at least I know I'll get to see her again

The perfect mix of smart and sexy, what more could a man want!

After the time is up, some ladies kick your ass outta there, and some ladies sit on your lap, and won't let you go. But it's not called mttugfe. It's called atf, and I'll be back soon.

After BBFS.  Combining the two is so intimate, don't you think?

Lucky you? Another way to put it is people are social and it's natural to spend time together no matter what background.

But I’ll say this though, for the providers that get you out after time is up, at the very least, if they follow up with a simple thank you text; then that still has some value in making time spent together worthwhile.


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Anyone I agree to play with has to be the "hangout with me" type. It would feel so unrealistic and transaction otherwise. I don't ever agree to meet "just here for the goods" or the "quickies" guys, hence the minimum duration. Gives us both time to indulge in some other ways.

I really like the women I book with.  I enjoy talking with them;  I enjoy playing with them.  They are absolutely wonderful companions.  I frankly adore all of them.  There is one girl "R", for example, that I am just completely head over heels with....

BUT

There are boundaries; "R" has a life and a family - just as I have a life and family.  It seems to me that if I push "R"s boundaries, she has an equal right to push my boundaries.  Since I am not willing to let "R" into my life, it is unreasonable to think that "R" should allow me into her life.  If things were different - in another life --- but they aren't.

So - I leave "R" naked at her door after many hours of really intense, passionate sex  - when what I really want to do is run away with her to Vegas or ...

But since I am an adult, I go back to my life and she goes back to hers... and next month, we do it all again.  I get to keep the "newness" of it all, the fantasy - and that is a hell of a gift - well worth the envelope.  

And yes - I'll see other ladies - and she'll see other men and it's all good.  And one of these days I WILL take "R" to Vegas ...  but that's really just a wonderful fantasy.. maybe.... which is what is good about it.  Everyone needs a little romance - just don't take it too seriously.

But you can't do that if you don't respect boundaries

And I are great friends . We've done all kind of things together. I even been grocery shopping and helped clean her App.. I never see anyone else . Never had a problem being best friends with her !

Many people here are STARVING for attention, and the second you cross that green fence, they're planning their divorce, and your marriage. (Trust me, I fell for the OTC trick many times in the beginning. I don't pay to watch her eat bs - all of those men have slandered me to the heavens and back, except one lol.)

Second, some clients run the hell out of there when OTC anything is mentioned. In fact, one very very regular client offered me a shopping trip for some really nice stuff, and I didn't know he was paying for me to go shopping with him. But he stuffed it in the envelope. Some clients want that tie tied tight, so not only the client is aware, but the provider is well aware that there is no chance for anything outside of a paid date.

It's a touchy subject, not only because of the time, but because it is too grey a space. You all may feel you aren't taking a risk, but when you have 20 different men and a few women you're dealing with on a regular basis, boundaries need to be clear as the blue sky with zero clouds.

This is a job, first and foremost, and many of us can't afford even one going off the rails.

Just another angle to look at it. I've dealt with a few nuts in my day lol!

Handling OTC Time.

I can handle it pretty well. I have no problem if she can't go out to dinner after we play. There's been a few times she could not hang out after we played. That's fine. Most of the time I see her she can spend OTC time with me. It never costs me anymore than our standard  session fee to spend OTC time with her. When our time is over we hug and kiss and drive off. While I'm driving home she even texts me to say she had a great time seeing me. I'd say she enjoys spending OTC Time with me.

And you're exactly the kind of clients that providers who provide GFE want to see.