Rocket Strikes again with an excellent, thoughtful post.
Even in today's free-wheeling hookup culture, celebrities posting sex tapes, Jerry Springer, Elon Musk impregnating his employees, Hershel Walker with a slew of out-of-wedlock abortions, a former "Yacht Girl" marrying into the British Royal Family, etc.
Americans are a prudish lot. The narrative goes beyond loserdom; a plain-looking divorced/abandoned middle-aged woman with no education, skills or money, selling sex to a slightly less broke "Joe Schmoe" is "exploitation".
Back in the day, any American City of any size had a "pleasure district" modeled after Northern European cities. This kept the vice contained and controlled .. those who can actually rent a DVD can watch "Pretty Baby" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Baby_(1978_film )) .. I'm old enough to remember old salts waxing nostalgically about shore leave in New Orleans, Shanghai, Antwerp, etc.
Even as a young'un, there were "wide-open" parts of town where well-paid auto workers with a fist full of dollars and a set of swollen balls could rid themselves of both ..
One of my fondest memories was seeing the then-unknown Cheap Trick play at a bowling alley in Rockford, IL, then getting a rub-n-tug from a fat white chick afterwards. Apparently, I was a little too explicit with the cutie they first sent me, this was a way of reminding me to behave like a gentleman .. a lesson I've taken to heart.
It's taken 50 plus years to de-stigmatize gay sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattachine_Society), 50+ years to legalize weed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organization_for_the_Reform_of_Marijuana_Laws) , Casino gambling, etc.
What do these all have in common? Money, of course .. when cash-strapped local governments realized there was money to be made from folks with quirky vices, but with loads of disposable income buy up, then fix up their crime-ridden run-down central cities, without G-d raining down fire and brimstone.
The other part is race & class. When white, moneyed college-educated middle class men wanted to smoke weed and do molly in the clubs, then hook up with other men in the head, it happened. Look at Colorado.
It will probably take the last "get off my lawn" baby boomer being lowered into the ground or put into the crematorium before things change (2050?) .. as America's demographics will then be changed, and in "superstar cities", vastly changed, coupled with "superstar cities" increasingly willing to tell the Federal and State Goverments to get bent with their "Blue Laws" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law)
But, there's early signs of Slouching Towards Bethlehem. I've had young un's at work confide in picking up a hot girl in SF's Marina bars, walking out thinking they've won the lottery, then having her point out an ATM. The poor corn-fed simps go "What?", only to be told that it's going to take crossing her palm with silver if he wants to go upstairs..
Posted By: team_rocket_qwerty
Re: American version of western values has made sex
for money a very dirty thing one needs to be ashаmed of.
I really don't know why (but have few postulates) , and in many western countries especially in Europe this notion isn't really as supported. People in Netherlands and Germany seem to be more OK with regular people having a relaxing night with a sex worker.
But here, if you pay for sex, people look at you different. If you pay for sex and aren't really old, you must be a loser or have some underlying problems. Whereas, paying for sex (via proxy of material gifts) with non-sex workers is perfectly fine.
The funniest thing is when bunch of wealthy, powerful or good-looking men get busted for p4p, this "loser" narrative is somehow ignored. Because most people won't dare to call Jerry Jones or Bob Krаft or Ronaldo (the original Ronaldo) "losers".
Anyway, media is never interested in showing it from the monger side, because that would kinda break the myth that we're reptilians on the hunt for trаfficd women. If people see that many regular people just like them - with careers, sometimes families, ambitions, etc - indulge in hobbying, then they could relate to them...that's dangerous in a society that looks down on paying for sex.
Media isn't even interested in showing it from a provider's "strong woman" side, with a few exceptions. They want to keep strictly the scandalous angle, and portray one side as еvil/loser and another as v1ctim.
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