like a woman scorned.  Warning guys, do not ever piss a whore off.  I did, for a minor transgression, and the whore has been relentless in pursuing me through pm's in her community.  There are a couple of ways to deal with it: Ignore and it will go away; respond to keep her game going. Fortunately, we have so many to choose from, and we guys have our network too.   But it can be damaging.  To repeat, DO NOT PISS A WHORE OFF.  Part of the problem is that you will never know what did it until it's done.  Such is with some women.

Because the tone and words used in your note may have had the same effect on the ladies (pissing them off) who read this forum.  

Sometimes it's not what you say, but how it's said that irritates the potential audience.

But your advice is helpful in many walks of life ... things often go better if we don't piss each other off.

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I see providers, not whores

Maybe repeatedly calling escorts "whores" is what did it??

If you did transgress, I would recommend apologizing instead of making posts like these, which are sure to anger her even more, thereby causing you more stress. If you did nothing to justify her ire and she is a bit unstable or PMSing, the very best thing to do is leave it alone. Any attention to her games will fuel the fire. If she is doing something dangerous, such as revealing your ID to others, then let it be known so others may protect themselves from her. But ambiguous info-lacking inflammatory posts are rarely a solution to the problem at hand.

From the tone of this post and the choice of words you are using I can see where you could easily anger a provider.  Maybe if you tried to be a gentlemen instead of a John then things wouldn't have turned out the way that they did.  Calling names really won't get you far in this community and I am glad you posted under an alias.  That way us "whores" here won't know when you try to contact us.  

Pitty how some people are so simple minded in this hobby.  Sorry to the rest of you gentlemen out there for using the word John.

Tasha

What do you consider a 'minor transgression'?  Perhaps it is in your eyes and in reality quite more than that. In any case, if she is sending you unwanted pm's or emails, just ignore them. Put her on your ignore list and you won't even see them.  Not knowing the details, as you have chosen to omit them, one can only judge that by your continual calling us 'whores' that you have issues with women. As you see us all as whores. Perhaps if you approched the situation with a bit more of a decent tone, you won't come across as the ass you appear to be. But what do I know, I'm just a 'whore'.

In my eyes that's about the worst thing you can call a woman. Maybe this woman deserves it but to use that name in reference to providers in general is degrading.

Ya know you don't have to be a psychologist to sense someone's true feelings if you spend enough time with them. If you look at them as if they are beneath you then they will know soon enough.

I can only imagine what you may have actually done to her but I have a feeling you are probably getting whatever you deserve...
Here's a suggestion, start looking at them as women first, providers second and not "whores". Then maybe you won't have to think so much about what you have done to piss them off. Then again, maybe it's hopeless...

mulafutcha dey is hoes we is hoes man hoes b 4 reel doggs. d man is just callin it as he see it
sum biotch talk bout me i b chief slap a hoe baby yea dat me
peace out doggs

Did your "minor transgression" have anything to do with honesty, or the lack of it?

You know, hell hath no fury like a WOMAN scorned. No matter WHAT that woman does, she's still a woman, not a whore, you asshole.

While I understand the variety of names for women who do what we do, I *hate* it when some guy uses it derogatorily like you did in your post.

My suspicion is that you fucked her over and acted like an asshole. I can see it through your post. I doubt she's actually pursuing you, but probably warning the other women (as she should) of whatever it was you did to her.

Let's be honest here... what did you do... ask for bareback, try to wrangle more time out of her, stalk her, scare her or worse?  

Crawl back under your rock. Your post is annoying and rude to women. By the way, you didn't take your own advice because you obviously pissed someone else off.  

Katie

Gallant but honest?

Sounds like you should be Simple but stupid.

Obviously do not think you did anything major.

Was it something like you look like you put on some weight?

Until you let the rest of us know what happened you have acted like a fool in the anger and disrespect you show in your post.

You not only sound like a person a provider should stay away from but someone any decent guy would not even have a beer with.

Your language reveals much about you--and it's not good.

There are many words in the english language that can be used, intentionally, as a weapon. In some cases, those very same words can be reclaimed by those it has been historically leveled against, and turned into a positive. Context and intent is everything.

To be on this board, calling a provider a whore, in this context, and with this intent is offensive and out of line---not to mention, greatly lessens your credibility.

Whatever the minor transgression was, it will always take second place to the way you've presented it.

get a clue.

You know... sometimes it's very beneficial to have a forum to vent your feelings on. I do this, we all do this.

However, sometimes, the posts tend to be very hurtful to the ladies. If we don't come under fire for our bodies, it's our private lives or our schedules, our attempts to keep each other safe... whatever. While I understand we're "commodities," we're also people. We have feelings too.

Please remember this.

No wonder she pissed off.

Calling escorts whores isn't doing you any bit of good.

We're not whores but real women with feelings.

How dare you call someone that!

and apply another of Congrieve's quotes from the same play:

"Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast."

You can start crooning your apology any time.

if this is the way you treat the ladies, no wonder you pissed one off.

And to top it off, you hide, like a coward, behind an alias because you don't have the guts to say these things in the open so everyone will know who you are.

Just my opinion...
B

Well said, Katie.

Swim

Just my opinion too.

Swim

i would encourage you to please spread this news like wildfire. . post it on every board, hire a blimp, paint a billboard, put it out on the radio waves, hell i'll tattoo it on my ass cuz we REALLY get sick of getting pissed off by all the idiots who just dont seem to get it.

THANKS

-- Modified on 1/5/2008 7:28:17 PM

You have it right Katie. He is an asshole.

Some of my best friends are "whores". lol

Call me john, tom, frank, or even george as long as you are doing it nekkid.

b-

And bobb3950 is your real name? Of course it isn't. Just some anonymous alias of some hall monitor type with 5 reviews. It's an alias name to hide your identity so your wife or your boss or your kids or your parents don't know you are a John (as one of the above providers called us guys) who pays to have sex with whores (as most of the civi world thinks of providers). bobb3950 is the REAL alias. Or is bobb3950 your real name-LMAO

Almost no hobbyist here knows who anybody else on the hobbyist side is. And providers only know if you are dumb enough to actually tell them your handle or by giving yourself away in a review.

This whole thing was set up so that people could anonymously speak about things which are not legal or normally discussed in "polite" society. So, rather than continue to be a hypocrite on the subject of alias use, why don't you do what many of the provider's do. Post your name, a pic of your face and your ass and tell the world you pay $300 an hour at a time to get laid. Otherwise, to quote the alias using bobb3950 "you hide, like a coward, behind an alias because you don't have the guts to say these things out in the open so EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHO YOU ARE."

If not using an alias is truly important to you why don't you stop being a hypocrite and tell us who you really are bobb3950? Truth is nobody  gives a shit. All this grandstanding about aliases is just a lot of smoke blowing in the wind...

see HYPOCRITE post below--  

you're the one using an alias.  we used our only handles here.  so quit crying you big baby

Swim

Swimtrekr? Is that your first name? or your last?
Oh, it's your handle. I see. And your handle is, let me see, oh yes- it's an ALIAS to hide your REAL NAME.

The only crying going on is all this bitching by guys using handle ALIASES about guys who use ALIASES for their handles. Here's a tissue- blow your nose and MAN UP Swim. It ain't who says it it's what is said. Ironic that the providers put themselves out their every time they post because we know who they are. Hobbyists like Swim and bobb3950 hide behind their alias handles and others behind their handle aliases. An alias is an alias is an alias...

-- Modified on 1/5/2008 10:36:07 PM

Hmm, I haven't once pissed a woman in the business off (provider .. as it were..this includes providers that have done me wrong, perhaps I versed displeasure, but always proffesionally) . Now in my regular life, oh boy .

I will spin it another way, you don't owe them kindness, empathy, or sympathy, or any kind of false emotion. But you do owe them respect, because you are getting fee-for-services rendered. To me it's a business, that doesn't mean every encouter is 'business-like' that's up to the lady. But I always treat them like gold in that, I treat the person that rings up my pair of armani slacks like gold. In turn I treat my clients in my workplace like gold. It's a customer service industry, and your just a problem customer. Perhaps the reaction was unproffesional, but hard to know without details.

If they are treating you good, you should reciprocate, this is obviously a trolling post as there are no details, so it should just be deleted, IMO.

It's just here to get a big long thread and get to get everyong up in arms.

-m

-- Modified on 1/5/2008 10:22:19 PM

thank you zisk....

This profession is a veritable magnet for mysoginistic pricks. They feed on dissention and division within the ranks. He's obviously an idiot; albeit an idiot who knows that this type of post will absolutely inflame an already volatile environment. Move on to other posts, sweeties, nothing really to see here. It's been done already. -e

It wasn't funny to me until the backchannel pming began with the ladies to justify his position and convince us that he's a nice guy. That's the punchline in all this.

Katie

The nonsense of it all, prompted me to get creative. I hope some of the readers will grab a buttered popcorn, while they read the tale of the "Gallant Assholes."

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 12:49:42 AM

Thats the deal? Thats the crux of this entire thread?

Robert Brown, hence bobb...

what's yours, you coward?

The ability to use an alias gives cowards and wimps like you the opportunity to be critical, be mean, and write anything derogatory about anyone you want without having to be accountable for it.
Every lady or gentleman I have met in this hobby knows exactly who bobb3950 is and what his views and opinions are.

I am not afraid to show my true self, my true thoughts and opinions, to the members of this forum,  unlike you.
No, you are so full of hate and spite that if anyone really knew who you were, what you really thought of the ladies, your "career" in this hobby would be over as no one would want to see such an ignorant jerk, who harbors latent, and potentially harmful tendencies towards them.

U-R-Full-of-Shit...
What a classy name you have picked.
It obviously shows how much you respect everyone else here.
You must have a really miserable personal life to have to create such an alter ego here because you are to afraid that no one would give a crap about you if they knew what a loser you really were.

So, who is the REAL hypocrite, asshole?

It is not I.

BTW, my 5 reviews are 5 more than you have.

Just my opinion...
B

Strange thing is....Mr. Gallant p/m'd all the ladies that commented on his post, myself included, to tell us what the 'minor transgression' was.  The ironic thing is, if he had just stated that in the first place, sans all the 'whore' interjections, he would have had a more sympathetic ear. Too late now.

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 7:07:58 AM

where the lawyer tells his client before they are about to throw the switch on the electric chair:  "You should have just paid the $10 fine."

To err, sure is human.

Agree with your subject line, but why would a "whore" be any different than any other woman?  Last time I checked, "whores" are female homo sapiens, same as any other female.  Your denigration of her along those lines makes you look like a ignorant fool here, and using an alias adds cowardess to it!  Have a pleasant Sunday...

But if you visit a lady with the attitude that your language suggests (whore) then you are going to piss her off fast-- and never realize it because your behavior is utterly logical from the dismal status you give her.

Treat her right. Treat her as an equal-- an entrepreneur. Why do anything else? What she gives you is worth your time and money, isn't it?

PS-- I know you thought your "Hell hath no fury . . . " statement was meant simply to be cleaver. It has missed the mark badly. Better to stick with straightforward language than do what you did.

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 9:45:48 AM

that collection of midal and tampons we took up for him mustve done the trick.

I'm so disappointed. I was waiting with baited breath to receive a PM from him telling me the rest of the story. I really was. But no PM yet *sniff*

Skitter back under yer bridge, and begone with ye! - Oh, judging by your lack of any response to all this, you already skittered.

I don't wanna drag this thread out longer, but is anyone else getting flashbacks to 'Highlights' magazine?

You have a lot of anger problems.  Perhaps you might want to find a mentor hobbiest who could help you by showing you ways to conduct yourself  (example) contacting,  hygiene, and during a session,
The men here who feel it's best to belong to the "We hate women" club don't end up having that great of an experience, as the men who display exemplary behavior do as they show respect towards providers.

It's been said that there is a part of their brain that sends signals in different directions due to this missing link, so to say, thereby missing out on what this fun is all about.

That the guys who use aliases seem to be the only ones who don't understand the difference between an alias and a handle.

There's a difference?

If it looks like a duck
walks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Its a duck

I'm so sick and tired of these PC bullshit terms just so people feel better about themselves.

Providers
Whores
Hookers

All equal the same.....prostitutes

ditto for me as well zisk

Yeah, BG, I don't quite understand that either.  I have never used an alias.  As far as I am concerned, it is more trouble than it's worth.  And if I can't say it with my handle, I ain't gonna say it.

Swim

and then blasted me in the forum for my comments.  go figure.  And I didn't even out him, as did no one else, although I could have given his number one alias, his handle.

Swim

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 5:32:15 PM

But yes, there is a difference. The words by themselves, any of the words, each have connotations of their own.  There also is a difference in the intent with the way the various words are used in conversation or in a post. PC has nothing to do with it. It's about common courtesy to other human beings in general and treating all women with respect and decency.  The words you choose say more about you than they do about the lady that you are describing.

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 5:34:40 PM

I am just assuming the OP poster was an alias. Is it possible to PM all these ladies using an alias or would he have to show these ladies who he is by using his main handle in order to PM them?

b-

you can be a whore without being a provider or a hooker. I also think hooker and provider are not equivalent...I've never heard a SW referred to as a provider.

According to the dictionary:

Gallant – adjective:
1. brave, spirited, noble-minded, or chivalrous: a gallant knight; a gallant rescue attempt.
2. exceptionally polite and attentive to women; courtly.
Antonyms: inconsiderate, negligent, rude

Hmmm ... Can't help wondering if the antonyms would have made for a better alias given the choice of words in the message.

don't you go f*ck yourself. After what you said here, no lady in her right mind would give you the time of day let alone a session.

-- Modified on 1/6/2008 7:14:50 PM

Definition #1

A woman who engages in sexual acts for money.

he pm'd using his regular handle.

Katie

I agree with ritchie. these pc terms are lame.  I pay money for sex and cheat on my wife!  I am a sexual deviant. I like fucking whores and sluts.  And I betrayed my wifes trust.  truth is brutal.  
While the "escorts".... are pleasant and they are great people and I enjoy the sex and wit and class most of these women have.  But the truth is I am a trick and they are whores.  I have no misconceptions about my role and afflictions.  I am sure any "whores" who are sure of themselves and their identity outside of this hobby are fine acting the "whore"  for a good "john."  

I guess its whatever a person has to call him or herself to justify what they are doing. To me they are all one in the same. When the police arrest a "provider" they charge her with prostitution and that is the simple truth. Sometimes the truth hurts but it is reality.

I don't believe in hiding behind aliases like most do. I can see the difference in the intent of the way the words are used but when it all comes down to it they all refer to the same thing. As I said in the post below when the police arrest a "provider" they charge her with prostitution therefore she is a prostitute, its all in the same.

When I see a "provider" I am not the kind that I want to be friends with her, talk to her about my or her life and get to know her. It is about getting there and getting off and leaving. Many times I have booked with a "provider" for an hour session and I am done after 20-30 minutes and I have left. I got what I came for and that's it. Conversation, idle chit chat to me is useless. I would rather give her the time to herself before her next appt. After all I don't want to get to know her at all. Its just a business transaction that is all, no more no less.

-- Modified on 1/7/2008 10:38:24 AM

-- Modified on 1/7/2008 10:40:38 AM

I think it is LE to tell the truth this board is hot as hell!!
It's a good thing I'm just an erotic dance instructor.
The only people who can condemn me are the Baptists.
(they were once opposed to dancing)heehee

I got two from him...What was the point of using an Alias!

A whore is someone who will do anything for money.  

Lawyers are actually the biggest whores of all.  

Most providers won't do absolutely anything (and I would stay away from any who say they do)

The problem comes down to the whole enterprise being illegal.  If men could make money selling sex to women it would not only be legal, it'd be an olympic event.