On my self-imposed hiatus from the hobby (please, please my friends don't worry I will be back to something kinky real soon)

It is indeed impossible to lick your elbow....

I sent in all pertinent info...along with the advance payment you requested.

Posted By: Ridgetucky

On my self-imposed hiatus from the hobby (please, please my friends don't worry I will be back to something kinky real soon)  
   
 .... I was watching the hit series Bates Motel on A&E and Vera Bates said something so profound it hit me like a BRICK  
   
 & I quote "Norman, sex affects a woman mentally and physically".  
   
 Truer words have never been spoken my friends!  
   
 And that led me to posit the question (Can a Provider Love a Man?  Any man?)  
   
 With a Provider having so much sex (and for $$$ nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect her mental state of mind.  
   
 And with it the capability to ever truly love a man.  
   
 I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these women will never truly have what I have.  - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just paid you like $300 or $400.  I mean damn really c'mon but hey I do feel kinda bad.  
   
 Anyway, if a woman has FU---- like 50,100,500 guys can she really ever find true love?  
   
 R Providers using sex as a substitute for Luv?  
   
 Think about  
   
   
 RT Says:  It is impossible to lick you elbow (ha ha you R busted!!!)  
   
   
   
 

kind of a rude question imo.
Did u forget they are human, first and foremost.
Geeze, the question almost pisses me off.

There's a difference between having sex with a man you love and having sex with a man because you're getting paid for it.  The enjoyment I get from sex is directly proportional to how much I like the person.  The better the sex is the more likely I will start to feel feelings of attachment.  This is generally why in my personal life I tend to chose FWBs that I'm attracted to and like as a person but could never see myself with.  Women can seperate sex from love just as easily as men can, provided they don't have more than friendly feelings toward the person.

Well, everyone is capable of love.  Even the most sadistic evil people on the face of this earth who deserve to rot in hell, like those 3 brothers I am sure are capable of loving their let's say... mother.  So I am positive that providers are capable of love.

"men can seperate sex from love easily"
True for some, but not for all.
But, I know where your coming from.

So let's say you start having feelings for a client.  How would you act on that?  Would you start to see him off the clock?  Would you ask him out on a date?  Is that frowned upon?  Just curious.

I could rebut your inane post, but that would be pointless for such a troll.  So instead, I offer this brief ditty

Fatal flaw in your answer. Very few men or women can separate love from sex. Or at least I struggle. It has little to do with the sex and more with the girl.

I'm really getting concerned now.

Based upon my years of experience with providers and civvies, the answer is YES. Providers can and never will love a hobbyist that pays women for sex since she feels these men are desperate pigs having to directly pay a woman for sex.

They love my cock and make me promise I will be bYet I have none call me and want some more euither p4p or OTC.

I would have to agree with u on the "cheaters" part.
But then again, I'm not without sin.

Of course not..you have asked every hooker in the world her opinions.

I can't detach and have sex with someone that I don't love. I love my clients..sometimes I cry when they leave..I find it difficult. I love people in general. But I remember every thing my clients tell me and I truly care. If someone comes to the door that i haven;t met and I don;t feel that I can be genuine. I very nicely describe that it isn;t right, it has zero to do with looks. I appreciate a well mannered gentleman who is kind and has a keen mind and appreciates those qualities in me. I could not have a relationship and provide ..never. I see about two regulars per week and that is all the love I have. I would be insane if I saw multiple men. I don't know how they do it. Bless them.

While sex and love certainly do go hand in hand, for providers I think most of us seperate the emotions from our work sex, so that when we have sex in our personal lives it's so much different and more enjoyable and just on a totally different level.

With a John having so much sex (and paying $$$ for it nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect his mental state of mind.

And with it the capability to ever truly love a woman.

I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these men will never truly have what I have.  - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just got paid  like $300 or $400.  

Anyway, if a man has FU---- like 50,100,500 women can he really ever find true love?

R johns using sex as a substitute for Luv?



Makes about as much sense as your post )))

I could never do this shit and have someone at home, but it's not exactly unheard of. Love and sex are nowhere near the same thing...you boys of all people should know that. Most of you claim to love the woman you have at home whist out fkin hookers for only sex, but it's funny how you demand gfe and all that companionship that goes with it? Yea, we sure as fk don't need it when we have a BF at home lol. I think women today have a better grasp on detachment than most men.

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What? How the hell can you love someone you've never met? Good lord. You sound a bit off. Sorry to be so blunt, but you really do. "I LOVE all my clients?" Um, well it is obviously not reciprocated in every case, judging by a few things in your reviews. Either you are seriously suffering from insecurity and abandonment issues, or you're full of shit. Which one is it?

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I have four clients and have been seeing them for three and a half years. i am not in love, but i feel love for them. i very rarely see new people. i have a busy career and don;t do this often. Good lord? I am always misunderstood on these boards. i wrote 'low volume' and am very. It is more life affairs than fuck and leave. I am not an escort type..more of a companion. Kabeesh or are you going to continue to question my sanity. i thought i was fairly clear.

Wow , buddy that is harsh.  I have one bad review from someone I never met before,i I sent TER all our emails displaying this, other than that, my reviews are pretty good. Except someine said I had a Futon THis is supposed to be funny in case you didn;t catch it. SO. AM I missing something? to call me a phony is nonsense.  You clearly don't engage in this for a connection. The men I spend time with our seeking out that primarily and I am able to do that..Poor you. You are missing out on a lot. READ THE REVIEWS! I am described as a very kid, gentle and way above average smarts,,so hard to dumb down here. I think I will leave you to your misguided and misfired hatred. Oh and my sexual talents are rated very highly, ugh why am I bothering..good night.

OMG yes but it has to be one she knows through friends or one she has relationship with as friends for a long time that has got to know her not an obvious guy who just wants to get laid.

Not true.  I fell for a client pretty hard a long time ago when I was just dabbling in this.  We were in a two year relationship and almost got married.  I'm now dealing with the consequences of such a rash decision.  I don't completely regret it as someone amazing came out of it but it was still a stupid decision regardless.  Providers can fall for their clients, not every client pays for sex because they are desperate, it just may be easier for them.  I've learned my lesson though.  I've met a couple of great men I could see myself falling for but I put a lid on my feelings pretty quick.  I don't ask them to spend OTC time with me because I know that's a boundary I shouldn't cross.

Men and women can seperate love from sex depending on the person.  It all has to do with how you feel about the person you are having sex with.  But like I said sex is more enjoyable when you like the person so I think that's the problem with separating sex from love.

That's a little disappointing to hear, somehow...

I'm a 2nd-time married guy (with the second marriage so far lasting into mmpphh-teen years) who tried long and hard not to have the second marriage fail.  Eventually, I ended up resigned to leading a life of quiet desperation; for all sorts of reasons (many of which are financially-related), divorce is not really an option.  I'm too old to lose half (or more) of my net worth and be forced to rebuild.  Entering the hobby was not an impetuous decision for me.  It came after quite a bit of deliberation on my part, as the "least bad" of my alternatives.

However:  Too soon old, too late smart.  Now that I'm well into middle-age, I finally know exactly what I would be looking for in a relationship, were I suddenly magically "unencumbered".  Believe me, I could very easily lead a hobby-free life--if I were with someone who is truly right for me.

We're really not all just scumbags who are pre-disposed or destined to be hobbyists, regardless of how attractive or satisfying the lady we have at home might be.  Some of us are just "stuck" in bad situations, and trying to make the best of it one way or another.

I'd like to think that if I were a provider, knowing that my civvie-boyfriend had at some prior point been in the hobby would not be a deal-breaker for the relationship.

I don't know, maybe I'm just unrealistic...

That's only meant half in jest.

All people are capable of love, regardless of what their day job (or night job) is.

Whether we ever achieve that or not is up to how well we practice the basics of love:  Respect, knowledge, and care.  If we practice those, it matters not what else we do for a living.

of course we can fall in love be loved and return the affection.

Not everyone here gets lost in this world. Many stay grounded and seperate who we are from what we do.
And the Men we love are able to see us as who we are and not what we do.
Im not saying this is easy on a relationshipo but its doable with the right two ppl and the right frame of mind.

I am a provider as a profession not as a person.
Its what I do not who I am.

That would be like saying *Can a John or Trick really ever love*
Do you see yourself that way?
I dont.
You are a client a man who too is capable of love as well as Lust.

why would it be any different for us.

More than not  we are low volume. Most dont put in a 40hr week its one or two days a few clients then back to our real lives, our family friends and lovers.

There are reasons why this Board is dominated by a few posters, and why many decide to stay in lurk mode.  This exchange is a perfect example.  When someone posts thinking that is outside the norm of how the regulars think and act, then attack and insult mode is switched on.  You can see it in thread after thread.  Not sure why it is, but that is reality here.  For what it is worth, I like what I see in your reviews.

I know several girls, including my ATF, who have husbands.  In fact, in most cases they are former (or current) mongers.

It's the Daily Double of Assholishness!
And in case you missed it, Udo, here's a ditty for you.  Ridge got his own version, so here's yours

We have Ridgetucky pretending to have friends, Udo claiming to have brains, and Dungy acting like he has balls, all on the same thread. What a great thread.

he's been kicked around enough lately.  Also, in the sweepstakes to win the title of "Biggest Ass- Wipe on the GD Board," he doesn't come close to the other two clowns.
PS: Dungy has pretty much stopped his feckless claims to have balls.  That was a mercifully brief, albeit humorous, interlude.

Lina is not a brainless troll. lmao

I was under the impression that since you charged by the damn HOUR in NY, you actually had clients every week. My bad.

The guys here, well lets just say, they make Charlie Manson look like Mother Theresa.

I would not either. Once men know about this world and how easy it is to get sex on demand, they rarely ever walk away for good. As soon as the current gf or wife is not doing exactly what they want, when they want sexually, they use this as means to pay her back. I have no interest in that type of relationship. It is one thing if a guy "has hobbied a few times," but another if he was in it all the way for years on end, and totally embraced this life and all that comes with it. So no, a guy who has tons of reviews, posts on boards every day, would not be anyone I would consider marrying, but many can say the same about me.  

WOW WOW WOW....you hit the NAIL right on the head with that one  !!   wow

The guys here......as in, where I'm living right now.

As a matter of fact I've introduced hobbying to civvy's that I've dated who hadn't done it! I'm not sure how you took my post to say that I wouldn't but I apologize if I wasn't clear!!

How open minded can you be assuming providers have sex all day?

I haven't gone back in and looked at replies. I thank you for your thoughtful response